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Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:02 pm
by STOP!
OK I UNDERSTAND THAT SHIA IS A SMALL SECT BUT DNT 4GET THAT MOST OF THE SHIAS ARE EDUCATED/RICH/WARRIORS.....UNLIKE SUNNIS.....ANYWAYZ U KNW THAT SHIA GONNA INVADE SAUDI ARABIA....AND THEY GONNA BE THE BIGGEST SECT THAT GONNA RAISE THE NAME OF ALLAH swt....

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:03 pm
by Brav3Heart
The_Patriot wrote:brave heart what is the Shahada?
If ou claim that Cumar & Abubakars Shahada is invalid then whoever thinks so is a Kafir by default.
The rasuul said it himself that Islam will grow into so many branches. Just because ours is the right one doesnt make them kufars.

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:07 pm
by In_For_Wisdo
STOP! wrote:OK I UNDERSTAND THAT SHIA IS A SMALL SECT BUT DNT 4GET THAT MOST OF THE SHIAS ARE EDUCATED/RICH/WARRIORS.....UNLIKE SUNNIS.....ANYWAYZ U KNW THAT SHIA GONNA INVADE SAUDI ARABIA....AND THEY GONNA BE THE BIGGEST SECT THAT GONNA RAISE THE NAME OF ALLAH swt....

Where did you hear that.....Whats your source??????

When it comes to deen do not speculate....deal with facts....

Hearsay and other fabrication waa a big dambi...Iska ilaali...

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:25 pm
by STOP!
A SHIA NATION IS GONNA INVADE SAUDI ARABIA THATS A FACT TO COME....THATS NOT A SPECULATION JUST WAIT....

SHIA AND SUNNI WILL KILL EACHOTHA IS NOT A HEARSAY OR A DREAM ITS GONNA HAPPEN...ANYWAYZ ITS HAPPENIN NOW IN IRAQ, PAKISTAN, SOMALIA AND OTHER COUNTRIES......

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:31 pm
by The_Patriot
[quote="Brav3Heart"][quote="The_Patriot"]brave heart what is the Shahada?
If ou claim that Cumar & Abubakars Shahada is invalid then whoever thinks so is a Kafir by default.[/quote]

The rasuul said it himself that Islam will grow into so many branches. Just because ours is the right one doesnt make them kufars.[/quote]
The Rasul aslo said that whoever calls one a kafir then one of them is a Kafir.

So using this since we know that Shia call the saxabash Kafirs and this Saxabis are Cashara mubashiriin.
Then they automatically become kafir.

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 3:33 pm
by surrender
STOP! wrote:WASTEGIRL: WHEN I SAY SOON IT DOESN'T MEAN 2MORROW OR NXT YEAR...ALLAH KNWS BEST......I SAY SOON BCOZ ONE OF THE SIGNS BEFORE THE DAY OF JUDGMENT IS THAT THERE WILL BE A LOT OF FITNAH IN THE WORLD.....

ANYWAYZ THE STRONGEST SECT IN ISLAM IS SHIA RIGHT NOW.....SO I GUESS SHIA WILL RUN TINGZ IN THE WORLD SOON.....THATS WHY US DNT WANT IRAN TO BE A STABLE COUNTRY.....ANYMORE 21 Qs :)

thats not what i heard bro. i heard shia, yes; will be strong but not strong enough to invade makka. in fact they will be defeated by the West/Romans badly, and still fight back.and will fight against the romans the same time the sunni will fight with the romans/west but they (shia and sunni) will not fight side by side. also is it true that the people that will invade tha kaba will be people from "ardhul xabash"? or is that the old story that already happened: the abarah story. anyways i heard some people will invade/try to invade the kaba and paint it white!!

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:10 pm
by *muslimah*
surrender u r right a xabash will distroy the kabah

shia are deviant but we should not go to the exent of sayin they are kuffar... make dua for them inshallah

the prophet saw said... every newly invented matter is a misguidance

the DEEN is Perfect no need to change it

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:15 pm
by Savaloy
Brav3Heart wrote:Shia have a lot of flaws in thier religion but you cannot call them kufar for they believe in the shahada. They've added some ayats in the Quran that praise Cali which they claim are the right verses, and the Sunni Quran was edited by Cumar and Abubakar.
Excuse Me, But Fukk Off

The Qur'an has never been ''edited''

Thats what makes us different from the kufaar

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:25 pm
by *muslimah*
Savaloy wrote:
Brav3Heart wrote:Shia have a lot of flaws in thier religion but you cannot call them kufar for they believe in the shahada. They've added some ayats in the Quran that praise Cali which they claim are the right verses, and the Sunni Quran was edited by Cumar and Abubakar.
Excuse Me, But Fukk Off

The Qur'an has never been ''edited''

Thats what makes us different from the kufaar
But u still cant call them a Kufaar...bro ur words would turn against u on yumul qiyama

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:54 pm
by surrender
shia's are who they are. khalid yasin said to us you cannot call shia people, as in citizen of iran for example. kuffars as they are just following rules and are misguided people and yes indeed we should pray for them. but the so called "shikhs" of shia's i.e ayatullah al-qamaniyi. yes you can call him mushrik, kuffar or worse. reason being is people like him that are setting the rules of shia's and preaching to the innocent people of iran and iraq. misguiding these innocent people.

if you guys only knew what people like him say about our beloved prophet (scw) you wouldnt for one min say anything good about them.


but then again we are sunni, we have to show the proper rules of pro.muhhamed (scw) that we cannot just shout on top of our voices about who's kuffar and whos. not. so dont non of you name call the next shia you see.

just be cool and but not friendly. im sorry to say that, but these people have wronged our religion, our pro. (scw) way too much. they gone too far. things they do sometimes and say sometimes, galos dont even do that.

and no matter how ever much they pray. how much "muslim" they are; no-one that doesnt get to drink from the well of our beloved pro.(scw) isnt going to go to heaven! so seen as they dont believe in prophet muhhamed (scw) i guess they will never go to heaven unless they repent and change! alaahu aclam

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 10:13 pm
by Brav3Heart
Savaloy wrote:
Brav3Heart wrote:Shia have a lot of flaws in thier religion but you cannot call them kufar for they believe in the shahada. They've added some ayats in the Quran that praise Cali which they claim are the right verses, and the Sunni Quran was edited by Cumar and Abubakar.
Excuse Me, But Fukk Off

The Qur'an has never been ''edited''

Thats what makes us different from the kufaar
Read before you respond I said the shia have edited theirs and claimed their verses are accurate and that ours have been edited by Cumar and Abubakar.

For example is the surat Al-Inshirah they've added a ayat about cali.

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 11:18 pm
by Cali_Gaab
Stop, the more you talk the more retarded you sound.

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:39 am
by In_For_Wisdo
STOP! wrote:A SHIA NATION IS GONNA INVADE SAUDI ARABIA THATS A FACT TO COME....THATS NOT A SPECULATION JUST WAIT....

SHIA AND SUNNI WILL KILL EACHOTHA IS NOT A HEARSAY OR A DREAM ITS GONNA HAPPEN...ANYWAYZ ITS HAPPENIN NOW IN IRAQ, PAKISTAN, SOMALIA AND OTHER COUNTRIES......
What a gross misrepresentation of the Somali crisis.....It's disgusting and untrue....

You have proven yourself void of any Islamic or political knowledge...No point refuting silly made up rubbish disguised as fact...Yaab wallahi

On that note,,,Ciao....

Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:34 pm
by *muslimah*
[quote="surrender"]shia's are who they are. khalid yasin said to us you cannot call shia people, as in citizen of iran for example. kuffars as they are just following rules and are misguided people and yes indeed we should pray for them. but the so called "shikhs" of shia's i.e ayatullah al-qamaniyi. yes you can call him mushrik, kuffar or worse. reason being is people like him that are setting the rules of shia's and preaching to the innocent people of iran and iraq. misguiding these innocent people.

if you guys only knew what people like him say about our beloved prophet (scw) you wouldnt for one min say anything good about them.


aslamu alaykium

bro/sis u r right the shia indeed have wronged our deen BUT u can call the munafiqoon, people of kufur and bidah but howeva akhi they believe in the shahada and WALAHI let me tell u calling a muslim a kufar is a sin it self, am just lettin u know, shia are ubelievable and the way in which they have changed the deen is abouslately ridicilous but isnt allah swt the greatest judge.

the so called shia sheikh that are misleading the people SUBHANALLAH is all i have to say for them

and about not befriending a shia what is that about bro listen u can its much easier to give dawah to sum1 who believes in allah but is just misguided... u shuld befriend shia and give dem sum dawah for the prophet saw said even if u knw an ayah convey it.

like i said make dua for them

wsalam
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Re: Sunni and Shia

Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 3:58 pm
by surrender
*muslimah* wrote:
surrender wrote:
aslamu alaykium

bro/sis u r right the shia indeed have wronged our deen BUT u can call the munafiqoon, people of kufur and bidah but howeva akhi they believe in the shahada and WALAHI let me tell u calling a muslim a kufar is a sin it self, am just lettin u know, shia are ubelievable and the way in which they have changed the deen is abouslately ridicilous but isnt allah swt the greatest judge.

the so called shia sheikh that are misleading the people SUBHANALLAH is all i have to say for them

and about not befriending a shia what is that about bro listen u can its much easier to give dawah to sum1 who believes in allah but is just misguided... u shuld befriend shia and give dem sum dawah for the prophet saw said even if u knw an ayah convey it.

like i said make dua for them

wsalam
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anyone who talks about our beloved prophet(scw) like that, you can call them kuffar i believe. (im ukhtii, not akhii by the way) :wink: