American Salafi & Salafi_Student:

[American Salafi]

Here the Shaikh is Talking about the Salafiyyah.

[American Salafi]

I loves this response by our Imaam Saalih Fawzaan.

Allahu Akbar!!!!!!!!



Respond to this. Beautiful

[American Salafi]

Why should we ascribe ourselves to Salafiyah? Audio by Imaam Albaani

[American Salafi]

This video of Albaani I just posted is a debate between Albaani and this one guy. This is like the arguement between you and me. Subhanallah. I love Shaikh Albaani!!! Listen to it.

[Boqor__Daarod]

what is salafiyah? why cant u just call yourself a muslim and end it with a muslim and that all to it.

open the books of hadiths and and read them the companions are called muslims the prophet s.a.w is called a muslim. if today u call yourself a different name then 2moro it will be a different religion step by step

[American Salafi]

Boqor

Your right we are all muslims, alhamdulilah. The sufi,tablighi, itixaadi, ikhawani, suroori, etc are all muslims but the problem is the prophet (saw) fortold in an authentic hadith that the muslims will divide into 73 groups all in the fire except one. in that hadith the prophet was asked who was the saved group. the prophet replied, "they are upon what I am upon and my companions" so we take from this hadith the muslims will separate and divide into group and the only group that will be saved are those that stick to the sunnah of the messenger and also the sunnah of his companions. The term salaf is not a recent invention. The term was used by our prophet when he told his daughter fatima, " I am a blessed salaf for your' and also the first three generation of muslims used the term. But the reason for using this term is describe the Metholodogy and beliefs of the people of the sunnah. If you look at the terms we are use too using like "Sunni, Ahlu sunnah wal Jammah, etc" these terms were used by the salaf when innovation start to appear. The word sunni was used for the muslims that were upon the sunnah could differentiate themselves from the shia, who reject the sunnah. So the word salafi is used also to differentiate the people of the sunnah from those of innovation. Salafi means those that follow the way of the salaf. Just as Sunni means those that follow the way of the Sunnah.

[sadeboi]

Kolombo and Salafi listen to me...these arguments have been quite annoying and your stance on certain issues are quite hypocritical of your "ideologies."

Kolombo, you accuse salafi and his sect to be very pro-western and that your ideology or al-shabab and so forth fight for the Islamic cause and you are all about Islam and not nationalism and so forth. Yet you support ONLF which is a qabiil oriented "liberation" front and its essential goal is to have Ogadeniya as sovereign state, forget about joining Somalia, also you have mentioned quite few times how Bin Saud and so forth cooperated with gaalo yet, and maybe your not familiar with this history, but the Ogaden elders back in the days ASKED to join Ethiopia instead of waiting couple of years and being a state or their own or joining Somalia---mind you, I am not against the idea of ONLF, but you overuse that excuse yet Ogadens were not forcefully part of Ethiopia in the beginning.

Salafi, I think it has been stated many times over and over, the way the SAUDI came to power is WORKING with the gaalo to overthrow and destroy the Ottaman empire and the forcefully making the Arab tribes under their reign, its fully against what you advocate for yet you fully support them. They have also cooperated with Gaalos again and again against Muslims. So thier reign to power was not some peaceful one it was through the means of war and betrayal of the ummah, why then do you promote not rebelling against a leader when they came to power because of their rebellious ways.

[American-Suufi]

Kolombo and Salafi listen to me...these arguments have been quite annoying and your stance on certain issues are quite hypocritical of your "ideologies."

Kolombo, you accuse salafi and his sect to be very pro-western and that your ideology or al-shabab and so forth fight for the Islamic cause and you are all about Islam and not nationalism and so forth. Yet you support ONLF which is a qabiil oriented "liberation" front and its essential goal is to have Ogadeniya as sovereign state, forget about joining Somalia, also you have mentioned quite few times how Bin Saud and so forth cooperated with gaalo yet, and maybe your not familiar with this history, but the Ogaden elders back in the days ASKED to join Ethiopia instead of waiting couple of years and being a state or their own or joining Somalia---mind you, I am not against the idea of ONLF, but you overuse that excuse yet Ogadens were not forcefully part of Ethiopia in the beginning.

Salafi, I think it has been stated many times over and over, the way the SAUDI came to power is WORKING with the gaalo to overthrow and destroy the Ottaman empire and the forcefully making the Arab tribes under their reign, its fully against what you advocate for yet you fully support them. They have also cooperated with Gaalos again and again against Muslims. So thier reign to power was not some peaceful one it was through the means of war and betrayal of the ummah, why then do you promote not rebelling against a leader when they came to power because of their rebellious ways.

salafis aka wahabis are now divided into salafi jihadis and non salafi jihadis and few other sects. let them kill and destroy each other. they both use the same wahabi scholars as sources for their wars against each other.

[sadeboi]

Koleybo...both ideaologies are far better then suufis...and I will say I am more of Kolombos mindset..lakiin I won't blind myself from al-shabab and their unthoughtful actions and the injection of imbeciles into their movement.

[American-Suufi]

Koleybo...both ideaologies are far better then suufis...and I will say I am more of Kolombos mindset..lakiin I won't blind myself from al-shabab and their unthoughtful actions and the injection of imbeciles into their movement.

what is suufi? any muslim who practices the 4 schools of sunni mad-hab.
i'm shafi3i Sunni Muslim?

what is salafi also known as wahabi.

a new islam sect formed by abdiwahab.

what do wahabis bring? fitna and wars.

[sadeboi]

First salafi is not sect...salafi is a person who follows the way of the salaf..."the right path"..it was not a way invented by Abdulwahab but the ways of the saxaaba and the three pious generations of the ummah. To utter that the followers of the salaf do not follow a madhab is absurd seen as how all these madhabs are based on the ways of the prophet and the salafi. Essentially all madhabs agree with each other on all things they differ on minor things, the wadaads have looked at and look all the madhabs and what they say they do not adhere to only one madhab blindly.

[American-Suufi]

First salafi is not sect...salafi is a person who follows the way of the salaf..."the right path"..it was not a way invented by Abdulwahab but the ways of the saxaaba and the three pious generations of the ummah. To utter that the followers of the salaf do not follow a madhab is absurd seen as how all these madhabs are based on the ways of the prophet and the salafi. Essentially all madhabs agree with each other on all things they differ on minor things, the wadaads have looked at and look all the madhabs and what they say they do not adhere to only one madhab blindly.

that is what wahabis say and use to brainwash the illiterates and converts thanks to their petro $$$.

sxbow first no one can claim the pious salafs as there was no isnad to when abdiwahaab proclaimed his wahabia man-haj. second if u know salafis they ALWAYS USE WAHABI scolars but not the 4 scholars of Sunnis. they encourage personal ijtihad if wahabi scolars are void of the issue at hand rather than encouraging the wahabis to seek advice and guidance from the 4 Sunni scolars. it is a sect with limited sources formed by abdiwahab. sxbow don't fall for their tricks and their fireworks, what have they achieved besides sending squadrons of death soldiers to destruct the poorer muslims nations while saudi arabians the mother of wahabis live in abundance like they do now? wahabi scholars in concert with saudi tribal leaders supported the british against muslim turkish and create a privately owned saud homeland. they lack the passion, confidence, strength, knowledge in religion and sciences, compassion, strategic thinking for Islam's interests, progress and many other things, a sign of a sect. Islam without wahabis reached it zenith and spread and conquered to every corner of the world and led it with style and admiration and inshallah it will reach again.

[sadeboi]

your delusional...you speak of saudis working with gaalo..yet your politically working with them uttering words such as "wahabis" and invention of their. You full well know that "wahabis" are referred to the likes of Osama and so forth who are against the Sauudi yet you clump them together. Who are "wahabi" scholars and the "suuni" scholars? When suuni and shiite came into the scene abdulwahab nor any of the 4 madhab existed, so how can you define "wahabis" as none suuni and some us suuni. All in all, instead of this, focus on helping Somalis and other Muslims from practicing grave-worshiping, given an individual be a pious individual who is dead the same authority as Allah by asking him for things, useless hadra and other chantings, and making the prophets birthday into a celebration such as Eid and so forth, and many other things that are spiritual bidcah.

[The_Emperior5]

Just listen to xikmada

[American-Suufi]

your delusional...you speak of saudis working with gaalo..yet your politically working with them uttering words such as "wahabis" and invention of their. You full well know that "wahabis" are referred to the likes of Osama and so forth who are against the Sauudi yet you clump them together. Who are "wahabi" scholars and the "suuni" scholars? When suuni and shiite came into the scene abdulwahab nor any of the 4 madhab existed, so how can you define "wahabis" as none suuni and some us suuni. All in all, instead of this, focus on helping Somalis and other Muslims from practicing grave-worshiping, given an individual be a pious individual who is dead the same authority as Allah by asking him for things, useless hadra and other chantings, and making the prophets birthday into a celebration such as Eid and so forth, and many other things that are spiritual bidcah.

sxbow let me slow it down for you.

who are salafis?
kolombo and others with 'salafi' nick?

why are they always fighting?
the salafis spilled into further sects. one is osama, salafi jihadists supported by kolombo and the other main those who argue you can't rebel against your leader and are still with views of senior wahabi scolars in their motherland, saudi arabia.

why do they claim themselves salafis and not Sunnis.
followers of mohamed abdiwahab are banned to identify with sunni muslims. see a hadith by albani.

why wahabism attractive to somalis?
similar backgrounds. both nomads who live according to tribal laws and denied islam to be the main laws of the land. lack of education, poverty (saudis were eating dust at that time) lack of security, tribal wars and many more social breakdowns. solution, rigid wahabi laws can solve somali tribal wars just like sheikh abdiwahab AUN did in saudi arabia.

why do salafis prefer to live in the west?
most don't like to live in saudi arabia because the west offers them better protection and want to escape the saudi laws. education. the saudi education system is based on wahabi doctrine which discourages education in the sciences and many other fields. poor egypt produces better scientists, engineers and religious scholars than saudi arabia who is 10 times wealthier. saudi produce rejects who take wars and famine to muslim countries to convert them to wahabia. there are many other reasons, ask them, i saw many salafis migrated from saudi arabia to the west.

how do we engage non-muslims?
through da3wa and not through violence or the threat of violence.

jazakallah qeyrun for trying to stop inter salafi genocide in somalinet.

Emperor

let the salafis fight.