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AbdiWahab252 wrote:Oxidant,

Mengistu was a more shrewd and progressive leader than his rival in Somalia.

The most powerful act of Mengistu was to take the Ethiopian Airlines flight into exile when he saw defeat looming.

loooool

Aabe Siyaad (aun) made somalia an african super power .. Made Xamar the pearl of east africa

gave his people a written language

hell even other african used to learn from us .. the president of ethiopia and president of eritrea .. both went to Universities in Somalia .. guests of our country

dont let ur personal hate make U tell lies

RIP Jaalle Siyaad (aun)


what did this bantu looking amxaar do .. that was so ground breaking . lool

qoraxeey wrote:

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Oxidant,

Mengistu was a more shrewd and progressive leader than his rival in Somalia.

The most powerful act of Mengistu was to take the Ethiopian Airlines flight into exile when he saw defeat looming.

loooool

Aabe Siyaad (aun) made somalia an african super power .. Made Xamar the pearl of east africa

gave his people a written language

hell even other african used to learn from us .. the president of ethiopia and president of eritrea .. both went to Universities in Somalia .. guests of our country

dont let ur personal hate make U tell lies

RIP Jaalle Siyaad (aun)


what did this bantu looking amxaar do .. that was so ground breaking . lool

It is ironic that every single country in the Horn except Somalia owes President Siyaad for their governments.

Meles Zenewi, Isias Afeworki, and Ismacil Geele of Djiboui and his uncle before Hassan Guled Abtidoon all owe Siyaad for their positions and if Abdiqasim Salad Hassan and his 2000 Somali TFG had worked, he also would join the rest as proteges of Siyaad in power.

Oxidant wrote:

qoraxeey wrote:

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Oxidant,

Mengistu was a more shrewd and progressive leader than his rival in Somalia.

The most powerful act of Mengistu was to take the Ethiopian Airlines flight into exile when he saw defeat looming.

loooool

Aabe Siyaad (aun) made somalia an african super power .. Made Xamar the pearl of east africa

gave his people a written language

hell even other african used to learn from us .. the president of ethiopia and president of eritrea .. both went to Universities in Somalia .. guests of our country

dont let ur personal hate make U tell lies

RIP Jaalle Siyaad (aun)


what did this bantu looking amxaar do .. that was so ground breaking . lool

It is ironic that every single country in the Horn except Somalia owes President Siyaad for their governments.

Meles Zenewi, Isias Afeworki, and Ismacil Geele of Djiboui and his uncle before Hassan Guled Abtidoon all owe Siyaad for their positions and if Abdiqasim Salad Hassan and his 2000 Somali TFG had worked, he also would join the rest as proteges of Siyaad in power.

Oxidant don't forget Muudane Riyaale

Qoraxeey,


Mengistu did more for Ethiopia:

1. Got USSR support for his nation which allowed him to modernize his nation rapidly and kept it even though the USSR supported MSB before him

2. Got the USSR, Cubans, South Yemenis, Libyans to help defeat Somalia in a stupid war waged by MSB's Somalia. The most amazing part was that he even convinced the Americans, who were supposed to be MSB's allies, not to help Somalia


3. Mengistu left Addis Ababa intact and did not drag the war into the city. He chose to leave peacefully instead of ruining everything nor did he retreat to the South to form a military force to retake power.

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Qoraxeey,


Mengistu did more for Ethiopia:

1. Got USSR support for his nation which allowed him to modernize his nation rapidly and kept it even though the USSR supported MSB before him

2. Got the USSR, Cubans, South Yemenis, Libyans to help defeat Somalia in a stupid war waged by MSB's Somalia. The most amazing part was that he even convinced the Americans, who were supposed to be MSB's allies, not to help Somalia


3. Mengistu left Addis Ababa intact and did not drag the war into the city. He chose to leave peacefully instead of ruining everything nor did he retreat to the South to form a military force to retake power.

I asked you .. what did Menigustu do for his people .. Not what did USSR do .. or which countries supported him

also the Demolishtion iyo Destruction of Xamaar aka The Pear of East Africa began long after Aabe Siyaad (aun) left the place .and we all know that

qoraxeey wrote:

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Qoraxeey,


Mengistu did more for Ethiopia:

1. Got USSR support for his nation which allowed him to modernize his nation rapidly and kept it even though the USSR supported MSB before him

2. Got the USSR, Cubans, South Yemenis, Libyans to help defeat Somalia in a stupid war waged by MSB's Somalia. The most amazing part was that he even convinced the Americans, who were supposed to be MSB's allies, not to help Somalia


3. Mengistu left Addis Ababa intact and did not drag the war into the city. He chose to leave peacefully instead of ruining everything nor did he retreat to the South to form a military force to retake power.

I asked you .. what did Menigustu do for his people .. Not what did USSR do .. or which countries supported him

also the Demolishtion iyo Destruction of Xamaar aka The Pear of East Africa began long after Aabe Siyaad (aun) left the place .and we all know that

He is giving Menigustu credit for begging

AbdiWahab252 blames Siad Barre for what happened in Xamar. He doesn't even acknowledge what his kinship did to Somalia

Oxidant,

Mengistu left a better legacy for Ethiopia and than MSB left for Somalia.

Mengistu was a better beggar and a smarter one too

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Oxidant,

Mengistu left a better legacy for Ethiopia and than MSB left for Somalia.

Mengistu was a better beggar and a smarter one too

No, it was the people after Mengistu who made Ethiopia peaceful

Now can we say the samething after the successors of MSB?

AbdiWahab252 wrote:Oxidant,

Mengistu left a better legacy for Ethiopia and than MSB left for Somalia.

Mengistu was a better beggar and a smarter one too

Hayeeeeeey .. there U go again

Siad Barre . left the most best Somalia EVER .. lakin mooryaans with no sense of belonginng destroyed it all

i beleive it was the general ethiopian public who chose not to destroy their precious land and was not down to any politician nor group of militias.
give credit where its due

2ndtoNone wrote:i beleive it was the general ethiopian public who chose not to destroy their precious land and was not down to any politician nor group of militias.
give credit where its due

unlike some "somalis"

Somalia was going to collapse with or without rebels coming in to overthrow MSB.

The country was already bankrupt from not only the Ogaden War but the structural adjustment policies by the IMF and World Bank. Read up on it people. Things weren't as rosy as we all liked to believe. Over half of Somalia's budget was foreign aid in the 1980s. We didn't produce anything with or without MSB.

It was going to collapse one way or another.

But Somalia doesn't posses the people capable of care-ship of a whole country not just their clan tuulos.

MSB between 69-77 had things in a better picture. But, socialism and stuff wasn't good even though the political purposes was for arms...Somalis are too entrepreneurial for socialism... a mix would have saved us and perhaps even got us oil.

Hindsight is 20/20... but there were good and bad and the bad was going to catch up to us without the advent of all these qabil groups

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FHA1223 wrote:Somalia was going to collapse with or without rebels coming in to overthrow MSB.

The country was already bankrupt from not only the Ogaden War but the structural adjustment policies by the IMF and World Bank. Read up on it people. Things weren't as rosy as we all liked to believe. Over half of Somalia's budget was foreign aid in the 1980s. We didn't produce anything with or without MSB.

It was going to collapse one way or another.

But Somalia doesn't posses the people capable of care-ship of a whole country not just their clan tuulos.

FAH walaal .. that one I agree with you problemka waa halkas

the rest i dont know .. i'd rather live in a bankrupt country , then have no country at all

Oxidant wrote:AbdiWahab252 has been USC'd