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Another one I read was that reer shirdoon were bitter enemies of the garxajis and that the strongest clan at the time was the Ciise.

Cumar-Labasuul wrote:

Now I know why they are called gadabirsi

Maybe you don't know how to read or have not read at all the book.

richard had 2 guide that he got from sanaa (yemen) both were habar awal
and as he says in the book that is how it got related when he asked them about the tribe.

hence the non sensesical as above


however when he made an independent observation in his book this is what he wrote about them.

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page 136

Here, white flocks odotting the hills, and the scavengers of the air (haad) warned us that we were in the vicinity of villages.Our wigwam was soon full of fair-faced gadabursi, mostly loajira or cow-herd boys, who,according to the custom of their class, wore their tobes bound scarf-like round their necks.They begged us to visit their village, and offered a heifer for each lion shot on mount libahlay: unahapply we could not afford time.Amongst them was the first really pretty and handsome face seen by me in the somali country The head was well formed, and gracefully placed upon a long thin neck and narrowshoulders; the hair, brow and nose were unexceptionable, there was an arch look in the eyes of jet and pearl, and a suspicion of africa protuberance about the lips, which gave the countenance and exceeding naivete.


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page 168 of first footsteps in east africa

In appearance the gadabursi (samarone) are decidedly superior to their limitrophes of somale
(the issa, habar awal, gugureh, girri).
I have seen handsome faces amongst the men as well as the women.
Some approach closely to the Caucasian type: one old man, with olive-coloured skin, bald brow,and white hair curling round his temples, and occiput, exactly resembled an anglo-indian veteranGenerally, however, the prognathous mouth betrays an african origin, and chewing tobacco mixed with ashes (buree) stains the teeth, blackens the gums, and mottles the lips.
The complexion is the cafe au lait (fair).Contrasting strongly with the sooty skins of the coast;and the hair, plentifully anointed with rancid butter, hands from the head in lankcorkscrew the colour of a Russian pointer's coat. the figure is rather squat,
but broad well set and built. The gadabursi are as turbulent and unmanageable, though not so bloodthirsty, as the issa.

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I think the guides were jaleaous about the observation that they just had to resort about disssing and lying to white man.

Siciid85 wrote:Cumar_Labasuul, the so called reer shirdoon was defeated by Haji Sharmarkay of the Musa Carre and drove them away from berbera helping the ayal ahmed and later when the reer shirdoon immigrated to somewhere near seylac they were masscarred by the crazy cisses according to some history i readed.

Dont worry the Ciise muse They did a revenge for What The Emir to the sacadmuses sharmarke sided against subclans of sacadmuses against other. And they later Killed his son Maxammad sharmarke ali salah baashe. in berbera When he came to try tax Berbera. Do u know how they killed him they ambushed him and his men Hillskey ka so wadda boodeen Ciise musihi

siciid you seems the only one who knows something about the real history

all others are just amateur

This is the massacre by the issa you have mentioned (it was in buloxaar near berbera)

Siciid85 wrote:The_Emperior5, i never heard of a such thing where you seen it?, but i know haji sharmakay had 17 sons, two infant sons were killed by cisse -bedouins like it mentions the book of richard burton on his trip to seylac and what you mean what he did to the sacad muse sub clans, it was actually the ayal ahmed who asked the support of the haji while the reer shirdoon seeked the support of you know who......

No i was talking abouyt Maxammad sharmarke ali salih bashe when he wanted to expand the Empire of His father Ciise musahey is diileen for godobtii ay geysteen ,, yeah his father supported one sacadmuse against the other he could of stayed Neatral , Mala Marka His son Could of collec the tax in berbera. 40 years later.

djibsomali wrote:siciid you seems the only one who knows something about the real history

all others are just amateur

This is the massacre by the issa you have mentioned (it was in buloxaar near berbera)

Yes i meant that one aswell the incident that happened in bulaxaar.

Siciid85 wrote:khalid ali, and where was that mentioned , which book, by the way haji sharmakay couldn't say neautral when one of the sub clans was seeking an outside help far in the "east" peninsula like it says in the taarikh .

yeah it happened But its all cool , Were where the other clans seeking help from wabay igu cusub tahay tani as for The killing of the son of the emir Muse caraha weydii lol iyaga ku sheegi I think its also Mentioned in the book of richard Corfield of somaliland

Siciid85 wrote:dude, anigu i deal with facts not hearsays, as for the clans that were seeking help i already posted that the shirdoon axmed were seeking help from a non duriiyaada family, while the other sub clan was actually right in coming and seeking the support of the hajji to defeat those who wanted to use "outside help".

Which subclans were they seeking help from . read it its in the book of richard corfield of somaliland if u can see in parts in google books if not Libreyga ka wayi meysid.

Siciid85 wrote:The sub clans were The sons of Ahmed and the Ayyal Yunis.

The sons of Ahmed and who are they? And the Ayall Yunis Arent they sacadmuse As in Yunis Nuux Cali yoonis nuux , gaalkan richard burton qabilada sii baas bu u qora