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Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:18 pm
by ToughGong
Not blond,sun bleached :up:

Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:30 pm
by ciyaal_warta
alott of pple who grew near da coastal area have dat hair too...i think its the effect of salty water..coz of dat ma hair used 2 be a bit reddish but whn i grew up ma hair turn into black wif bit of reddish :lol:

Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:33 pm
by Voltage
union wrote:My hair has a reddish tinge to it and I'm definitely not malnourished. It must be hereditary because dearest mother has it too. :up:
Naturally colored hair is a sign of a malnutrition especially for Black people.
In cases of severe malnutrition, normally dark human hair may turn red or blonde. The condition, part of a syndrome known as kwashiorkor, is a sign of critical starvation caused chiefly by protein deficiency, and is common during periods of famine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair
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Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:42 pm
by military-mind
WestLdnShawty wrote:Lool it sure isn't black, ginger nor brown luv.

Whats gaduud.. :?
rusty :up:

Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:51 pm
by union
Voltage wrote:
union wrote:My hair has a reddish tinge to it and I'm definitely not malnourished. It must be hereditary because dearest mother has it too. :up:
Naturally colored hair is a sign of a malnutrition especially for Black people.
In cases of severe malnutrition, normally dark human hair may turn red or blonde. The condition, part of a syndrome known as kwashiorkor, is a sign of critical starvation caused chiefly by protein deficiency, and is common during periods of famine.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair
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I don't suffer from severe malnutrition. I am healthy and I have a balanced diet, and I take care of my hair. It's not totally red, it's obviously black but it has a tinge of reddish/brown to it. But it's noticeable enough because people constantly ask whether or not I dye my hair, which I don't. I don't know if it's genetic, or some other factors but malnutrition is simply not the cause.

Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 9:59 pm
by Voltage
Because you started to imbibe a bunch of vitamins doesn't mean all traces of the color change will go away, however majority red look will be retraced. I am sure there was a point in your childhood while you were severely malnourished. Your color is the trace. Black people do not naturally carry the genome for colored hair although there are recessive links that can give colored eyes.

Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:21 pm
by union
Voltage wrote:Because you started to imbibe a bunch of vitamins doesn't mean all traces of the color change will go away, however majority red look will be retraced. I am sure there was a point in your childhood while you were severely malnourished. Your color is the trace. Black people do not naturally carry the genome for colored hair although there are recessive links that can give colored eyes.
You, sir, are the king of logical fallacies. Stop begging the question and presenting your either/or reasoning as the only truth. Black people are the most diverse group of humans in the world, and you cannot make hasty generalizations about all of us. I was never "severely malnourished" as a child, thank you very much. Many other people on this thread have also stated that they have a reddish tinge to their hair, and they too were probably not severely malnourished. Have you ever considered that perhaps there maybe some validity to our claims? That we naturally have a reddish/brown tinge to our hair, that isn't necessarily caused by "severe" malnourishment. Thus far you've only presented wikipedia, as if somehow it were the comprehensive source of medical knowledge, as a reference and have refused to get off your high horse and consider other peoples claims.

Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:30 pm
by Voltage
Dramatic much? You Union do not have genetically natural red hair. You were a malnutrition baby. Stop acting like the rug is pulled from under you with the ignorant drama you responded with. Yes Black people are more diverse then all the rest of humanity but colored hair is not something achieved by genetic diversity, but rather at first acclimatized to colder temperatures and later evolved such. Black people's diversity does not include colored hair and white pigmentation which is a derived trait for conditions outside of Africa, particularly in colder, darker environments prone to lack of Vitamin D intake.

If any Somali kid has colored hair, it must be ascertained where there is a different genetic contribution, mostly in the last three generations. If not, the child is or was malnourished depending on the degree of the color.
The term kwashiorkor , meaning "the disease of the displaced child" in the language of Ga, was first defined in the 1930s in Ghana. Kwashiorkor is one of the more severe forms of protein malnutrition and is caused by inadequate protein intake. It is, therefore, a macronutrient deficiency...

Children are most at risk due to their increased dietary needs. Inadequate caloric and protein intake manifests itself with certain physical characteristics. Symptoms may include any of the following: failure to gain weight, stunted linear growth, generalized edema , protuberant (swollen) abdomen, diarrhea, skin desquamation (peeling) and vitiligo (white spots on the skin), reddish pigmentation of hair, and decreased muscle mass. Mental changes include lethargy, apathy, and irritability. Physiologic changes include a fatty liver, renal failure , and anemia . During the final stages of kwashiorkor, patients can experience, shock , coma, and, finally, death.

Treatment of kwashiorkor begins with rehydration. Subsequent increase in food intake must proceed slowly, beginning with carbohydrates followed by protein supplementation. If treatment is initiated early, there can be a regression of symptoms, though full height and weight potential will likely never be reached.


http://www.faqs.org/nutrition/Kwa-Men/K ... z12rlUlbaA
You are a damn Somali and probably a qaxooti baby. That in itself agrees with the premise being argued. I am sure you were malnourished, period.

Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 10:49 pm
by union
Voltage wrote:Dramatic much? You Union do not have genetically natural red hair. You were a malnutrition baby. Stop acting like the rug is pulled from under you with the ignorant drama you responded with. Yes Black people are more diverse then all the rest of humanity but colored hair is not something achieved by genetic diversity, but rather at first acclimatized to colder temperatures and later evolved such. Black people's diversity does not include colored hair and white pigmentation which is a derived trait for conditions outside of Africa.

If any Somali kid has colored hair, it must be ascertained where there is a different genetic contribution, mostly in the last three generations. If not, the child is malnourished.
The term kwashiorkor , meaning "the disease of the displaced child" in the language of Ga, was first defined in the 1930s in Ghana. Kwashiorkor is one of the more severe forms of protein malnutrition and is caused by inadequate protein intake. It is, therefore, a macronutrient deficiency...

Children are most at risk due to their increased dietary needs. Inadequate caloric and protein intake manifests itself with certain physical characteristics. Symptoms may include any of the following: failure to gain weight, stunted linear growth, generalized edema , protuberant (swollen) abdomen, diarrhea, skin desquamation (peeling) and vitiligo (white spots on the skin), reddish pigmentation of hair, and decreased muscle mass. Mental changes include lethargy, apathy, and irritability. Physiologic changes include a fatty liver, renal failure , and anemia . During the final stages of kwashiorkor, patients can experience, shock , coma, and, finally, death.

Treatment of kwashiorkor begins with rehydration. Subsequent increase in food intake must proceed slowly, beginning with carbohydrates followed by protein supplementation. If treatment is initiated early, there can be a regression of symptoms, though full height and weight potential will likely never be reached.


http://www.faqs.org/nutrition/Kwa-Men/K ... z12rlUlbaA
You are a damn Somali and probably a qaxooti baby. That in itself agrees with the premise being argued. I am sure you were malnourished, period.
You cannot use articles speaking about the pot bellied starving African children that they parade on "feed the children" to disprove my claims. Unlike you, I am not a refugee and I was born in the good ol' US of A. Natural born citizen, son. And I don't know what they teach you at the ____(school name removed), but its pretty well known that genes can be dormant and skip generations. Hence the recent case of the Nigerians having the blond baby. Perhaps the genes for a reddish/brown tinge are simply native to segments of the Somali population, or perhaps they are remnants that linger on in my genome from forefathers passed. I don't know. But a severely malnourished childhood, that is one thing that can be categorically ruled out. Perhaps the concept of living a healthy childhood is too incomprehensible for you because the Somali nation was destroyed when you were a child, leading you to become a refugee for most of your childhood till you were brought to America. Not all somalis were suffering from inadequate rations in the refugee camps, voltage. My parents had the foresight to immigrate before things got too bad. :up: :up:

Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2010 11:33 pm
by Voltage
So you still claim to be reer Warsame even though I know every reer Warsame in this city and can get information unless you continue to claim I was someone you didn't know. If your mom is not Dhulbahante, you are fake. Period. And yes, you were malnourished whether you cry foul or not. I am a med student so don't talk to me about biology or health related stuff especially as relating to the Somali people. I still laugh at you knowing me from your writings, but you try as much effort as can be galvanized from the heavens to the earth to not make yourself apparent. :lol: :lol:

p.s. When I l moved to our city, only another Somali family lived here and they are reer Ahmed, Marehan from the 80's.They live in Shoreline now. Don't play that card with me.

Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 12:11 am
by union
Voltage wrote:So you still claim to be reer Warsame even though I know every reer Warsame in this city and can get information unless you continue to claim I was someone you didn't know. If your mom is not Dhulbahante, you are fake. Period. And yes, you were malnourished whether you cry foul or not. I am a med student so don't talk to me about biology or health related stuff especially as relating to the Somali people. I still laugh at you knowing me from your writings, but you try as much effort as can be galvanized from the heavens to the earth to not make yourself apparent. :lol: :lol:

p.s. When I l moved to our city, only another Somali family lived here and they are reer Ahmed, Marehan from the 80's.They live in Shoreline now. Don't play that card with me.
Yet again you make another ignorant post full of logical fallacies.

'You cannot be from X tribe because I know everyone from x tribe'-

'I'm a med student so everything I say must be correct. I'm the expert on biology and the Somali genome'

And these were only the ones that stuck out the most. There are plenty more in there!

Your posts reek of arrogance and self assurance, not to mention your reasoning generally tends be flawed. Most debates with you lead to exasperation more so than anything else. Clearly your impaired knowledge of issues doesn't deter you from giving your ignorant opinions and then presenting them as the very embodiment of truth and trying to discredit anyone that disagrees with you. :down:

Also, stop trying to always derail threads with pointless clan talk.

Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 5:45 am
by HELWAA
Blond maahe waa timo cawlan..timo bisbis like mom used to call me in my childhood...wiig kasta xino ayey marin jirtey.Even now i still die my hair.Always wished i had black hair.. :(

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Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:04 pm
by Spursman
malnutrition,

Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 3:07 pm
by Kukri
ginger.

Re: Somalis with blonde hair..

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2010 4:54 pm
by Enlightened~Sista
Voltage wrote: I am a med student so don't talk to me about biology or health related stuff


:shock: :o :o and all this time i thought you were a political science student