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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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D-Runner wrote:
Coeus wrote:Wallahi they will sell the oil for cheap prices and the money wont go to the people. :down: :down: What does puntland know about Oil business and fair exploration deals!? :down: :down:
Just the drilling alone is expected to generate some badly needed employment for the locals... as for your silly statement, hate it or love it but Puntland's destiny is already decided.
What kind of employment? What expertise are you talking about? Working in Oil rigs does need education. And if you are talking about giving locals 50$ to show the foreigners where the minerals and oils are. And another 50$ for digging them? Is that generating jobs for the locals? Shows how uneducated and stupid you are. You think puntland with oil, when piracy and Al shabab assinations are rampant there? You cannot comprehend the important infrastructure and instituations needed when Commercial Oil is being used. Puntland doesnt have none of that. So the arabs will probably assist them with that, and cutting a extra percentage of the oil renevue. :down:

But yeah "puntlands destiny" is all that matters huh? Prick.
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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abdalla11 wrote:I am not being territorial just being realistic. I oppose Farole's obsession with Xamar, i think he should focus on Puntland and its affairs, just like the Founder of the State, Abdullahi Yusuf, use to do. Taking distance from Xamar is good thing, don't think Puntland is betraying the Somali flag, a flag created by a Puntlander :up:

You cant compare Nigeria and Puntland, Nigeria is a country with 150 milion inhabitants while Puntland has less than 3 million as for the pirates, that's a minor thing walle.
I am not talking about Puntlands alliegence to Somalia. Im talking about farooles incompetence when it comes to money. Are you denying that he extorted pirates and kept using Pirate money in his goverment? What will happen when Puntland finds major oil money? Shit is going to get worse. I f you truly love puntland then you would understand that it needs a more educated and careful cabinet to do these oil deals. But your happy that reer badiye will touch billion of oil barrels and you blindly believe puntland will be the heart of African beuty?

Nigeria has the same problem, no matter the population. Oil money brought that place corruption, same did Uganda and angola. Ghana has made very good and careful security measures and they are doing good iwth the oil money now. Puntland wont.
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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The main man that handled the most oil affairs was a Senior Puntlander that worked for African Oil and has an consultancy office in Australia, so don't worry about the expertise and the deals that would be made.

I think you live in your own dream world, what's wrong with paying every local worker 50$ a month? Are expecting that they should ask for 1500$ month?
Saudi arabia use to get 3 dollars per barrel at the start of the drilling and now it's well above the 80 dollar and they nationalized the biggest oil company, so it's all about handling it wise and improving
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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abdalla11 wrote:The main man that handled the most oil affairs was a Senior Puntlander that worked for African Oil and has an consultancy office in Australia, so don't worry about the expertise and the deals that would be made.

I think you live in your own dream world, what's wrong with paying every local worker 50$ a month? Are expecting that they should ask for 1500$ month?
Saudi arabia use to get 3 dollars per barrel at the start of the drilling and now it's well above the 80 dollar and they nationalized the biggest oil company, so it's all about handling it wise and improving
Nuff said.
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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Monk-of-Mogadishu wrote:I love how G-SNM is crying right now, the little bugger can't hold it together, he's going to fall apart soon, guys cut it out with the Puntland updates. :mrgreen:
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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I agree with coeus this need to be planned out properly before the diggings start. There has to be proper policies and procedures put in place. What happens when the foroole’s time is over, will it claps or the work will continue as normal and for the betterment of the Puntland people?

Inshallah hope this brings good for the Puntland people and Somalia as a whole.
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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^They were planning this since 1998 :|
Coeus wrote:
abdalla11 wrote:The main man that handled the most oil affairs was a Senior Puntlander that worked for African Oil and has an consultancy office in Australia, so don't worry about the expertise and the deals that would be made.

I think you live in your own dream world, what's wrong with paying every local worker 50$ a month? Are expecting that they should ask for 1500$ month?
Saudi arabia use to get 3 dollars per barrel at the start of the drilling and now it's well above the 80 dollar and they nationalized the biggest oil company, so it's all about handling it wise and improving
Nuff said.
What? You dont trust him miya?
He wasn't pleased last time and was taking legal proceedings, but last time i checked they reached some kind of deal
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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^^^Good on them but it still makes you wonder why it took that long? I pray it does become successful we need a good news for a change :som:
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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Coeus wrote:What kind of employment? What expertise are you talking about? Working in Oil rigs does need education. And if you are talking about giving locals 50$ to show the foreigners where the minerals and oils are. And another 50$ for digging them? Is that generating jobs for the locals? Shows how uneducated and stupid you are. You think puntland with oil, when piracy and Al shabab assinations are rampant there? You cannot comprehend the important infrastructure and instituations needed when Commercial Oil is being used. Puntland doesnt have none of that. So the arabs will probably assist them with that, and cutting a extra percentage of the oil renevue. :down:

But yeah "puntlands destiny" is all that matters huh? Prick.
Puntland oil exploartion is long term goal, it will be a few years before any tangible results have been gained, and when the real money flows it will bring in vital foreign investment and that will in turn generate all sort of employment... come on now work that little brain of yours because I can't be bothered to go into details the sort of employment foreign investment produces. There are too many expertise to name in Puntland, some have help chart a hopefull course thus far for the state and the rest I'm sure are doing their part in furthering the state progress... however detractors like yourslf do not understand what Puntland is and what its aims are.

As for your last bit, the state has eliminated the Al Shabab threat and is dealing with piracy... I assure you things haven't looked brighter in term of security.
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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Unlike the xaasid pirates who pray night and day for Somaliland not to gain recognition, we Somalilanders dont care whether they find oil under the desert they call home, or even if every pirate started pissing black gold. The difference between a pirate and Slander is we have more class... :sland: :up:
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GENERAL_SNM wrote:we have more class..
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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In africa, oil is a curse rather than a blessing. To be honest with you, I would rather my country gorws economically through manufacture and industry rather pump oil and gas like lazy arabs and africans.
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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abdi.ismail wrote:In africa, oil is a curse rather than a blessing. To be honest with you, I would rather my country gorws economically through manufacture and industry rather pump oil and gas like lazy arabs and africans.
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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D-Runner wrote:
Coeus wrote:What kind of employment? What expertise are you talking about? Working in Oil rigs does need education. And if you are talking about giving locals 50$ to show the foreigners where the minerals and oils are. And another 50$ for digging them? Is that generating jobs for the locals? Shows how uneducated and stupid you are. You think puntland with oil, when piracy and Al shabab assinations are rampant there? You cannot comprehend the important infrastructure and instituations needed when Commercial Oil is being used. Puntland doesnt have none of that. So the arabs will probably assist them with that, and cutting a extra percentage of the oil renevue. :down:

But yeah "puntlands destiny" is all that matters huh? Prick.
Puntland oil exploartion is long term goal, it will be a few years before any tangible results have been gained, and when the real money flows it will bring in vital foreign investment and that will in turn generate all sort of employment... come on now work that little brain of yours because I can't be bothered to go into details the sort of employment foreign investment produces. There are too many expertise to name in Puntland, some have help chart a hopefull course thus far for the state and the rest I'm sure are doing their part in furthering the state progress... however detractors like yourslf do not understand what Puntland is and what its aims are.

As for your last bit, the state has eliminated the Al Shabab threat and is dealing with piracy... I assure you things haven't looked brighter in term of security.
What results? The puntland goverment is corrupt. We all know that, no beating around the bush saaxib. i care about the innocent people getting used and faroole has shown us what he does when he get alot of money. When pirates came in with alot of money, some of it went to the goverment. Faroole was using pirate money in his goverment. Oil money will never reach the people under his regime. Oil riggs will be in danger when fighting happens, because puntland is not as safe as Somaliland.

Al shabab is not gone. Last week a judge in Puntland got assasinated by a alshabab spy. If you ever had any sense of long term thinking you would know that drillling oil wells should not be in puntlands priority list when they have so much problems.
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Re: While Somalia is burning, Puntland is selling the Oil

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abdi.ismail wrote:In africa, oil is a curse rather than a blessing. To be honest with you, I would rather my country gorws economically through manufacture and industry rather pump oil and gas like lazy arabs and africans.
Exactly. Puntland has as much fishing industry potential as rest of Somalia, and they should follow Somalilands policy by not using the countries natural resources.
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