Al-Qaida's Leader in East Africa Killed in Somalia

[melo]

As far as we know, he died a Muslim. Unless someone has evidence counter to this?

[TheblueNwhite]

He can burn in jahanama foking murtad kunt pig.

[melo]

He can burn in jahanama foking murtad kunt pig.

Do you have evidence that he left Islaam?

[RovingMadness]

LOL@Melodramtic.

Aren't you the guy that calls MSB murtad? Why are you so sensitive when someone calls a shabab khawarji murtad? Then you tell us that you are not supporter of shabab

[melo]

Because I don't see any religious evidence to suggest that Shabaabist are kaafirs. Perhaps you can show me, in what ways they became gaalo? I already showed in the MSB thread. that MSB was a clear cut kaafir during his time as leader of Somalia. Please review that thread.

[RovingMadness]

Because I don't see any religious evidence to suggest that Shabaabist are kaafirs. Perhaps you can show me, in what ways they became gaalo? I already showed in the MSB thread. that MSB was a clear cut kaafir during his time as leader of Somalia. Please review that thread.

LOL@ the idea of reviewing your stupid and retarded statements. NO, I will pass.

Many Islamic Scholars consider Shabab and their Al Qaida Masters as Khawarij, even Sh Ahmed Dahir Aweys whose evil terrorist brother you so fondly admire.

[melo]

Are khwaarijs murtadiin?

[LobsterUnit]

Because I don't see any religious evidence to suggest that Shabaabist are kaafirs. Perhaps you can show me, in what ways they became gaalo? I already showed in the MSB thread. that MSB was a clear cut kaafir during his time as leader of Somalia. Please review that thread.

LOL@ the idea of reviewing your stupid and retarded statements. NO, I will pass.

Many Islamic Scholars consider Shabab and their Al Qaida Masters as Khawarij, even Sh Ahmed Dahir Aweys whose evil terrorist brother you so fondly admire.

The scholars who see them as khawarij view them as misguided Muslims.They've never called them murtads or apostates.

[RovingMadness]

Are khwaarijs murtadiin?

They are worse, because they share your religion. The Prophet SCW called them the DOGS OF HELL.

[melo]

You do realize, that not only were khaarijites said to go to hell, but also murderers, thiefs etc. Are we going to conclude, that they are all murtadiin?


What is becoming clear, is that the so called anti khaarijites, are khawaarij themselves.

[melo]

Because I don't see any religious evidence to suggest that Shabaabist are kaafirs. Perhaps you can show me, in what ways they became gaalo? I already showed in the MSB thread. that MSB was a clear cut kaafir during his time as leader of Somalia. Please review that thread.

LOL@ the idea of reviewing your stupid and retarded statements. NO, I will pass.

Many Islamic Scholars consider Shabab and their Al Qaida Masters as Khawarij, even Sh Ahmed Dahir Aweys whose evil terrorist brother you so fondly admire.

The scholars who see them as khawarij view them as misguided Muslims.They've never called them murtads or apostates.

Miskiin. He thinks because people accuse others of being khaarijites, it is a declaration of takfiir. Ibn baaz calls UBL are a khaarijite, yet he never made takfir upon him. In fact, im pretty sure that the Jadiidi scholars do not make tafir upon al-qaacida (last time i checked).

[RovingMadness]

You do realize, that not only were khaarijites said to go to hell, but also murderers, thiefs etc. Are we going to conclude, that they are all murtadiin?


What is becoming clear, is that the so called anti khaarijites, are khawaarij themselves.

LOL, you have problem reading stuff. I said the Prophet SCW said the Khawarj are the DOGS OF HELL, not that they are going to hell. They will go to the very pits of hell and the religion clearly asks Muslims to kill them whereever you find them. They have certain characteristics and Al Shabab and their supporters clearly exhibit those marks.

[melo]

This is assuming Al-shabaab are pure khaarijites, which they are not. Khaarijites were known only to fight Muslims, and would leave the kaafirs alone. Furthemore, khaarijites made takfir of the masses for making sins, while Shabaab does not make tafiir upon Ictisaam, although they view them as being misguided and sinners. There are a list of areas where Shabaab does not tick off the pure khaariji label.

[melo]

You do realize, that not only were khaarijites said to go to hell, but also murderers, thiefs etc. Are we going to conclude, that they are all murtadiin?


What is becoming clear, is that the so called anti khaarijites, are khawaarij themselves.

LOL, you have problem reading stuff. I said the Prophet SCW said the Khawarj are the DOGS OF HELL, not that they are going to hell. They will go to the very pits of hell and the religion clearly asks Muslims to kill them whereever you find them. They have certain characteristics and Al Shabab and their supporters clearly exhibit those marks.

You still haven't demonstrated that the Khaarijites are murtadiin. It is becoming clear that you don't even know what a khaarijite is.

[RovingMadness]

This is assuming Al-shabaab are pure khaarijites, which they are not. Khaarijites were known only to fight Muslims, and would leave the kaafirs alone. Furthemore, khaarijites made takfir of the masses for making sins, while Shabaab does not make tafiir upon Ictisaam, although they view them as being misguided and sinners. There are a list of areas where Shabaab does not tick off the pure khaariji label.

At the cheap spin Your attempts are really pathetic

Shabab called the people of Karaan as Murtadiin and the Shongle pig said that anyone that engages the government even the poor man that sells water is murtad. His audio is easily obtainable online so your fits are kinda boring. As far as their khawarijnimo is concerned, there are many scholars that made sermons about them, including SH Ahmed Dahir Aweys, so take your none sense somewhere else.

The tales of shabab fleeing at the first news of Ethiopian military is well-known, while they fight Somalis to the last bullet, am not even going to let you argue on this