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Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:21 pm
by AhmedBoqor
Alchemist wrote:
AhmedBoqor wrote:Isn't it forbidden in Islam to adopt a child? I might be mistaken but I've read it somewhere that as Muslims we aren't allowed to adopt but only sponsor a child.
That is true.. By adopt in this case it can mean sponsor.. for the greater good and to get the child the paper work he/she needs you say adopt.. All that matters is he/she doesnt take your name cause his family name will be lost.
oh, so they can still live with you and its all halal?

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:25 pm
by Alchemist
AhmedBoqor wrote:
Alchemist wrote:
AhmedBoqor wrote:Isn't it forbidden in Islam to adopt a child? I might be mistaken but I've read it somewhere that as Muslims we aren't allowed to adopt but only sponsor a child.
That is true.. By adopt in this case it can mean sponsor.. for the greater good and to get the child the paper work he/she needs you say adopt.. All that matters is he/she doesnt take your name cause his family name will be lost.
oh, so they can still live with you and its all halal?
Yes of course.. Living is not the issue is family name and inheritance that might get mixed up that is why islam forbids it.. But raising an orphan, feeding him, putting a roof over his head even if its your own home are all considered noble in islam.

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:27 pm
by idol
What if the kid doesn't know his family name? Can you just make up a family name for him/her, or are they allowed to take your family name in this case? Can they also call you mom and dad?

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:32 pm
by Twist
Knight of Wisdom wrote:
Alchemist wrote:
Advo wrote:You are trying to kick knowledge to mentally retarded population, wallahi I have met many that want to adopt ilma cadaan, indhayar, etc but never somali child SMH. It's that hate I was talking about earlier that manifested into cultural self hatred, the last stage before suicide.
no freaking way. :? Are you telling me there are Somalis out there who would rather adopt Cadaan kids first before Somalis?
Advo is just over-exaggerating. :lol: If not, then...the reason might be based on Clan. If the child doesn't know what Clan he/she is, then no Somali would wanna raise another clan's child.
I swear by the name of the Almighty Allah as I am fasting, when I saw this thread the first that came to my mind was, "Where's KoW and her clan talk" and baaaaaaam, she's here doing what she does best.

Axad ruuxanoo kale ah weligay maanan arag mana maqal. AcuudubiLaahi Mina shaydhaani rajiim!

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Thu Aug 11, 2011 11:34 pm
by Alchemist
idol wrote:What if the kid doesn't know his family name? Can you just make up a family name for him/her, or are they allowed to take your family name in this case? Can they also call you mom and dad?
Good question.. Walahi i dont know the asnwer to these questions.. Go to your local masjid and ask people of knowledge.

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:20 am
by yungnfresh
Advo wrote:You are trying to kick knowledge to mentally retarded population, wallahi I have met many that want to adopt ilma cadaan, indhayar, etc but never somali child SMH. It's that hate I was talking about earlier that manifested into cultural self hatred, the last stage before suicide.
I'm surprised but at the same time I'm not...they're probably more interested in being on some exotic "Angelina Jolie" bs like it's some kinda fad

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:42 am
by greenday
I watched a program about Somali parents who lose their children and it said that they did not want their children fostered by Somali families! They think of "ceeb" and not how much the child will benefit from being in a Somali home where he will think he/she was with his aunt/uncle. Somalis always think backward with these things.

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:46 am
by udun
idol wrote:
Advo wrote:You are trying to kick knowledge to mentally retarded population, wallahi I have met many that want to adopt ilma cadaan, indhayar, etc but never somali child SMH. It's that hate I was talking about earlier that manifested into cultural self hatred, the last stage before suicide.
LOL are you serious cuz? What Somali person would want to adopt a white kid and an asian kid? Wallahi it breaks my heart, Alot of these other races are going to adopt our children, and treat them however they want. I want them all to grow up in a Muslim household, with Somali guardians but that's just my dream. And I hope it comes true sooner or later.
In the US, many Somali kids with white parents have been reported. People say they were taken from Somalia before the rise of Islamic Courts Union in 2006.

It is better those who can to adapt or support those children in Somalia while they are with their close relatives backhome. I think we should do it for the sake of Allah. Keep in mind the refugee camps are also heavily targetted.

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 4:48 am
by FarhanYare
Advo wrote:You are trying to kick knowledge to mentally retarded population, wallahi I have met many that want to adopt ilma cadaan, indhayar, etc but never somali child SMH. It's that hate I was talking about earlier that manifested into cultural self hatred, the last stage before suicide.
lol@ somalis adopting ilmo cadaan and indo yar wtf is wrong with their thick skull??

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:30 am
by Estarix
Adopting Somali kids from Somalia is illegal.

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:53 am
by WiglessBidaar
My wife and I adopted a three year old kid. But I threw him out when I caught him touching his private parts. That is haraam and should be done only with a girlfriend. Wrist action is not kosher.

Today it's masturbation, and tomorrow it's gay porn. Subxanallah. Boys should never take an interest in male genitalia. They should only look at girls. I told him: Aaba fiiri, feel free to bring Jennifer home and get amorously acquainted. I will provide the rubber and clean sheets. That is what every responsibile caretaker ought to do. I do not seek to quash your natural impulses. But keep it gynophilic dee.

Did he listen gentle reader? Bosh! So I kicked him to the curb telling my custodian officer that he was a violent kid and exchanged him for a nice and obedient Vietnamese boy. Wallahi dadkaas waa dad aad u roon. I recommend them. But stay away from the white kids. When you slap them out of boredom, an imprint of your hand is marked on their inflamed red cheeks and to prison you will go. If you deny it and try to pass the bucket onto your wife as I did, the police will match the finger prints on his cheeks to yours and make you share a prison cell with a heavyily tattooed bouncer who greets you as "Hello my sugarlips, won't you slide into bed with me".

Wareer badana!

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:12 pm
by Beenaale_No1
Somalis marry different clans like there's no tomorrow anyway, so I dont think not wanting to adopt a Somali kid is anything to do with clan prejudice.

Half my Cagdheer relatives are married to Isaaqs. If they wanted to adopt I doubt they would care if the kid was born into a Hawiye family or not. It matters not.

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:18 pm
by tightrope
WiglessBidaar wrote:My wife and I adopted a three year old kid. But I threw him out when I caught him touching his private parts. That is haraam and should be done only with a girlfriend. Wrist action is not kosher.

Today it's masturbation, and tomorrow it's gay porn. Subxanallah. Boys should never take an interest in male genitalia. They should only look at girls. I told him: Aaba fiiri, feel free to bring Jennifer home and get amorously acquainted. I will provide the rubber and clean sheets. That is what every responsibile caretaker ought to do. I do not seek to quash your natural impulses. But keep it gynophilic dee.

Did he listen gentle reader? Bosh! So I kicked him to the curb telling my custodian officer that he was a violent kid and exchanged him for a nice and obedient Vietnamese boy. Wallahi dadkaas waa dad aad u roon. I recommend them. But stay away from the white kids. When you slap them out of boredom, an imprint of your hand is marked on their inflamed red cheeks and to prison you will go. If you deny it and try to pass the bucket onto your wife as I did, the police will match the finger prints on his cheeks to yours and make you share a prison cell with a heavyily tattooed bouncer who greets you as "Hello my sugarlips, won't you slide into bed with me".

Wareer badana!
:shock:

Re: Adopting Somali kids.

Posted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:07 pm
by WiglessBidaar
^ Just telling it like it is walaal. I hope it helps with fostering.