Ancient Technologically Advanced Cultures

[Grant]

Gurey we cannot remove the Jinn and in extension sorcery from ancient advanced cultures, it was known that Prophet Suleiman (AS) used to have an army of Jinn that created and helped him in all sorts of technological wonders such as building Al Aqsa Masjid. Even though this was a gift from Allah, there were many who used the Jinn such as the Jews of Egypt and Babylon.

Nobody can deny this, it's historical fact

Time Warp??????

[gurey25]

Gara man the show has some silly stuff and thinking but there are valild points raised.

It is a fact we do not fully know how to build the Pyramids at Giza, we do not know how to build the Stone temples in Bacalbek Lebanon, or those at tiahnasco.

Engineers have thought about how to build a replica of the Pyramids out of the same materials with the same level of accuracy with todays technology
they said that it would costs hundreds of billions of dollars , take at least 20 years and we would need to use the latest computer and laser technology..

now explain to me how the egyptians built it with wood, iron tools and slaves?
It wont be Iron tools either because the Giza pyramids are supposed to be before the Iron age according to the official historians.

[934]

again magic is technology derived from knowledge that is either too far advanced that we cannot understand it, or it is too different that out brains cannot grasp it..

I include telephaty, telekinetic, Teleportation ,


If some one comes to you and says he is using grand magic, and then does the impossible by transporting you to another continent in less than a second
what would you do?

I would want to know how he does it...

stop this primitive thinking...

Magic exists it simply is knowledge outside the experience of human beings at the moment.

Knowledge from where and from whom?

Are jins also simply something outside human experience?

If jin exist the magic also exist.

[gurey25]

Magic is the use of knowledge that is outside of human experience..

Jinns can be said to do "magic" this is because they see the world differently than humans, they are made of smokeless fire , probably plasma
and they probably have access to the structure of the universe that we are only just observing with our advanced instruments.

this is why they will have more knowledge and understanding of things like the nature of the soul than humans, and the interaction between the soul and body.
this is why they are able to communicate to us especially to those who are suseptable..
They cannot read minds untill they share your body with you i.e possession but they can transmit information, and they can get a very good guess of your thinking by reading you emotional state..



God is the source of all knowledge, we should not be afraid , we should always be seeking to learnt he nature of gods creation, this is a form cibaada like dikhr..

[gurey25]

The quran mentions that the Jinn are made of smokeless fire, and the angels from light..

Are the jinn made of the 4rth form of matter Plasma?


http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn4 ... -life.html

[NoAngst.]

Do you guys really believe in literal Jinss?

[934]

Don't forget that jinns, can also transform themselves into various forms, from man to animals

God is the source of all knowledge, we should not be afraid , we should always be seeking to learnt he nature of gods creation, this is a form cibaada like dikhr..

I agree, as it is said that knowledges starts from the cradle to the grave

[gurey25]

Yes its in the Quran its the word of god.

Now as i was saying everything that is thought of as magic we can guess the general direction where the science behind it is coming from..
Open your minds do not be primitive, like isolated amazon tribes that see a flying metal bird and gods coming out of it.

[Knight of Wisdom]

934


r u the old ghetogirl? u have spirit.

I knew 934 was a chick.

[gurey25]

Don't forget that jinns, can also transform themselves into various forms, from man to animals

God is the source of all knowledge, we should not be afraid , we should always be seeking to learnt he nature of gods creation, this is a form cibaada like dikhr..

I agree, as it is said that knowledges starts from the cradle to the grave

Jinns cannot transform , matter transformation is probably possible but too difficult and energy consuming..
They can form the Illusion of various forms from people to animals a very convincing one that you can touch feel, smell , taste and talk to..

The power of the illusion depends on the maturity and strength of a particular jinn , for example a novice would not look convincing maybe even scary and shocking to you, while a very old one like iblis could appear as your mother and easily convince you that it is..

[934]

Do you guys really believe in literal Jinss?

yes i do. It is part of our faith and Allah's creation, although their world totaly independent and seperate from ours. It has its disting nature and features which are hidden from us human. they are no different than human in terms of their existance and purpose which is to worship Allah.

"And I (Allaah) created not the jinns and humans, except they should worship Me (Alone)." [al-Dhaariyaat 51:56].

[gurey25]

We are at the edge of a new scientific revolution advances in the 3 fields would lead to technologies that blur the line between magic and technology

1. Gravity.. we know nothing about it, understanding it and manipulating it would open up the galaxy
2. Nano technology. along with cheap energy would mean that we will probably go beyond some of the Sciene Fiction on TV.
3. Artificial intelligence..

[NoAngst.]

Yes its in the Quran its the word of god.

Now as i was saying everything that is thought of as magic we can guess the general direction where the science behind it is coming from..
Open your minds do not be primitive, like isolated amazon tribes that see a flying metal bird and gods coming out of it.

There is difference between opening your mind and having a mind so open that your brains fall out. You seem to be asking us to do the latter.

Jins don't appear to exist in the real world. If you think otherwise, convince me.

[ahmedbrant]

Yes its in the Quran its the word of god.

Now as i was saying everything that is thought of as magic we can guess the general direction where the science behind it is coming from..
Open your minds do not be primitive, like isolated amazon tribes that see a flying metal bird and gods coming out of it.

There is difference between opening your mind and having a mind so open that your brains fall out. You seem to be asking us to do the latter.

Jins don't appear to exist in the real world. If you think otherwise, convince me.

[gurey25]

I dont have the time or the energy to convince you, maybe i will try in a few days when i am bored.
I would like to talk about ancient advanced cultures...

If you wish to ignore allahs mention of jinn in the quran it is your wish...