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Saudis would probably support an attack on Iran.

Frenchies can't and wont attack Iran, empty threats but I hope they do; it would be the end of this world as we know it.

Gaalo iyo Musim baa loo kala bixi

Iran which hasn't invaded another country for thousands of years is irresponsible
Yet the Jewnited States which invaded countless countries in the las 100
Used biological agents against it's own citizens
Nuked Japan to smithereens
Lied about WMDs in Iraq
Lied about Vietnamese aggression to start a war,is

union wrote:Samatr


Of course I will support the interests of the United States.
This is the country I was born and grew up in, and the country i will live and work and die in.
Iran is the enemy of the free world and a nation lead by theocratic nutjobs. India is the world's biggest democracy and one lead by educated, rational thinking people. There is no comparison!

You sound like Bush!

Free world can take their blood-soaked hands to hell

lol@the enemy of the free world? ..my question is union.

who's free world? because you're not talking about my world

seemeyer wrote:Iran which hasn't invaded another country for thousands of years is irresponsible
Yet the Jewnited States which invaded countless countries in the las 100
Used biological agents against it's own citizens
Nuked Japan to smithereens
Lied about WMDs in Iraq
Lied about Vietnamese aggression to start a war,is

Exactly, the only country that TESTED its NUCLEAR POWER on another was the US of A


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Frenchies can't and wont attack Iran, empty threats but I hope they do; it would be the end of this world as we know it.

Gaalo iyo Musim baa loo kala bixi

We shouldnt wish for the end of the world sxb or Qiyamaha, its not good.

seemeyer wrote:Iran which hasn't invaded another country for thousands of years is irresponsible
Yet the Jewnited States which invaded countless countries in the las 100
Used biological agents against it's own citizens
Nuked Japan to smithereens
Lied about WMDs in Iraq
Lied about Vietnamese aggression to start a war,is

Iran is meddling in the affairs of countless nations itself. It was behind attempts by the shia to overthrow the King of Bahrain, it bankrolls Hezbollah which has become a counter government to the Lebanese dowlad and has provoked Israel into at least two wars, it is propping up the dictatorship of Bashar Al Assad even when his people want him to go, etc etc. "The Islamic Republic" of Iran is also infamous for also persecuting its sunni Muslim residents, for example do you know there is a ban on building sunni mosques in tehran? Not to mention other human rights abuses against other groups such as women.

^ the US of A has committed much worse crimes in comparison

Like what? I bet you're going to bring up the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but that was needed to conclude WWII without shedding millions of more lives. It would have been extremely bloody to invade the Japanese mainland and remove the Japanese government which has been responsible for such crimes as the rape of Najing, the forced colonization of Eastern Asia, the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, and not to mention they had allied themselves with the most evil ideology ever born to man, Nazism.

union wrote:Like what? I bet you're going to bring up the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but that was needed to conclude WWII without shedding millions of more lives. It would have been extremely bloody to invade the Japanese mainland and remove the Japanese government which has been responsible for such crimes as the rape of Najing, the forced colonization of Eastern Asia, the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, and not to mention they had allied themselves with the most evil ideology ever born to man, Nazism.

There goes Secularism for you.


No justification WHATSOEVER for taking innocent lives

Saraxnow wrote:

union wrote:Like what? I bet you're going to bring up the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but that was needed to conclude WWII without shedding millions of more lives. It would have been extremely bloody to invade the Japanese mainland and remove the Japanese government which has been responsible for such crimes as the rape of Najing, the forced colonization of Eastern Asia, the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, and not to mention they had allied themselves with the most evil ideology ever born to man, Nazism.

There goes Secularism for you.


No justification WHATSOEVER for taking innocent lives

Non sequitur

Saraxnow wrote:

union wrote:Like what? I bet you're going to bring up the nuclear bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but that was needed to conclude WWII without shedding millions of more lives. It would have been extremely bloody to invade the Japanese mainland and remove the Japanese government which has been responsible for such crimes as the rape of Najing, the forced colonization of Eastern Asia, the surprise attack on Pearl Harbor, and not to mention they had allied themselves with the most evil ideology ever born to man, Nazism.

There goes Secularism for you. The whole materialistic shallow world-view of Nationalism and this ''American blood'' being worth more than these Japanese civilians.


No justification WHATSOEVER for taking innocent lives

One with the least humanity in them cannot say that killing innocents by nuclear bombing is ''Necessary'' ever.

Saraxnow wrote:We shouldnt wish for the end of the world sxb or Qiyamaha, its not good

I don't mean as THE END, that we've no control of regardless of which country attack which; what i mean however is BATTLE RELIGIOUS LINES will be drawn and religious wars will take place almost everywhere in this world. The LIE which is (Iran is a radical government) wont fly anymore even with the puppet Muslim leaders across th globe

And it will be apparent that The West are actually at war with Islam when the likes of union are thrown in jail for having Muslim origins

Im anti shia from a religous point of view and i am politically against Iran.
But i do not fall for the Isreali propaganda that is mouthed by governments of the US and Europe..

Iran is not a crazy irresponsible country, it is as logical and self serving as any other country.
Iran practices real politic, they have better relations with Hindu India than neighboring muslim Pakistan
They backed the christian Armenians together with the Russians in the Nagorno-karabagh war, against mulsim Azeris that were backed by Turkey.

They are looking after Iranian interests and not looking for an apocalyptic war..

So what if his speaches are provocative?
Isreali politicians not only say provocative things everyday, they actually do invade countries, and kill innocents.
Iran has been peacefull and kept order.

Iran is not developing nuclear weapons now, it is developing the capabilities to produce nuclear weapons, it wants full control over the nuclear cycle.
this is to defend their sovereignty.

Iran wants to join the club of countries that can build nuclear weapons in 2 months which includes ( Japan(for japan it is 2 weeks), Taiwan, South Korea, Germany,Argentina, Brazil, South Africa, Italy, Ukraine,Belorussia, Canada)

You have a real crazy regime in North Korea but they are treated with respect, why?
It is because of the damage they can do when attacked, making them one of the few countries in the world completley independent of the west.
Even without nuclear weapons, an attack by the US on North Korea will mean a severe retaliation that will immedietly kill over 1 million south koreans in the first week.
They will lose but they will go down fighting.

Thus making them secure,
Iran wants that kind of security, their program is vast and intricate, they are going down several different pathways in parallel .
With centrifuge, laser enrichment just a small part of their research program.
Do you know that they are studying 3rd generation nuclear weapons design? they have decided to jump technological paths and jump straight into future technologies and they are surprisingly not very far in this new field from everyone else involved.

Iran has become a technological powerhouse, they dont look it now, but they are producing more scientists and engineers than either Turkey, Egypt or Pakistan,
and they do not have an immediet threat right now like pakistan does which makes them focus less on the tactical but allow them to think ahead in time to 20 30 years +.
This is why they are throwing more money and have more scientists engaged in long term fields like fusion tech, 3rd generation nuclear weapons that nobody has right now, experimental enrichment tech, and others like biotechnology which is a field that they have fully caught up with and are on the same level as several european countries and japan.

This is the main reason why the Isrealis are using their influence to push towards a war, Iran does not want or plans any confrontation for the next couple of decades,
Iran is focused on technology that will make them invulnerable to the west in the future, this is why they will delay, negotiate and buy time and when push comes to shove they will yield and admit defeat and allow full cooperation with the UN....

Isreal knows that in 20 years they will not be able to touch iran and iran can brush off any attacks and hit back just as hard, today isreal can attack iranian airspace at will.
Time it running out and they are employing their full resources to create a climate of fear to prepare the stage for an unprovoked attack on Iran that will at least slow down it nuclear status for another few years at most..

It seems to be working because people like Grant have bought the Isreali line hook line and sinker.

djibsomali wrote:shia are the original muslim

not the same as those corrupted sunni

u mean insulting the sahaba r.a and our mother aisha r.a is the original of islam ..la xowla wala quwata ila billah