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Re: Xisbiyada Somaliland iyo Amiin Amiir
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:49 pm
by Saraxnow
reer hargeysa, reer burca ka waalan
fighter, There aren't real clan-owned parties because you need to include everyone to succeed politically or to at least look credible. Just because it's founder belongs to a certain clan doesn't mean his clan owns it, they might support it but they need to beg others to win

Re: Xisbiyada Somaliland iyo Amiin Amiir
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:00 pm
by KingMJ
fighter wrote:Saraxnow wrote:^

Miskeen. Did you hear about the protests that was held to release him?
@fighter, don't contribute, it's a waste of money as only 3 will come through most likely the ruling party + 3 others. Yes, they should have made he conditions harder but I guess the gov. didn't want to be accused of blocking access by the warabayaal of the country

True, those garhajis parties should have merged though. They could have been serious contenders. They have 3 or 4+ parties minimum I believe.
Its all planned garxajis know what they are doing.
Your uncle is making a party as well, Is he well known sxb?
Anyway lots of parties is not clan politics, this isn't 4.5 style. Here everyone is having a go and to go though all clans must vote for them, this is regular politics

Re: Xisbiyada Somaliland iyo Amiin Amiir
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:03 pm
by fighter
KingMJ wrote:fighter wrote:Saraxnow wrote:^

Miskeen. Did you hear about the protests that was held to release him?
@fighter, don't contribute, it's a waste of money as only 3 will come through most likely the ruling party + 3 others. Yes, they should have made he conditions harder but I guess the gov. didn't want to be accused of blocking access by the warabayaal of the country

True, those garhajis parties should have merged though. They could have been serious contenders. They have 3 or 4+ parties minimum I believe.
Its all planned garxajis know what they are doing.
Your uncle is making a party as well, Is he well known sxb?
He was a UDUB minister for 4years+. I trust that he is.
Re: Xisbiyada Somaliland iyo Amiin Amiir
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:13 pm
by KingMJ
I think I've heard of him all the best to him

Re: Xisbiyada Somaliland iyo Amiin Amiir
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:46 pm
by fighter
KingMJ wrote:I think I've heard of him all the best to him

Inshallah

Re: Xisbiyada Somaliland iyo Amiin Amiir
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 8:58 pm
by Somaliman50
so theres 10 political parties? i think the UK has about 13+ parties so its not too bad. somaliland political parties arent as progressed like western parties so wudnt it be a lot harder to understand what these different parties stand for and what they want? anyway i never supported democracy but any democratic country that doesnt put a cap on its number of parties is bound to fall apart. back in aden cadde's time, there were good efforts to keep the number of parties below half a dozen and it worked, but come the fall of '69, it got out of hand and look where it took us

ka taxadir dadyoow
Re: Xisbiyada Somaliland iyo Amiin Amiir
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:17 pm
by fighter
abakar20 wrote:so theres 10 political parties? i think the UK has about 13+ parties so its not too bad. somaliland political parties arent as progressed like western parties so wudnt it be a lot harder to understand what these different parties stand for and what they want? anyway i never supported democracy but any democratic country that doesnt put a cap on its number of parties is bound to fall apart. back in aden cadde's time, there were good efforts to keep the number of parties below half a dozen and it worked, but come the fall of '69, it got out of hand and look where it took us

ka taxadir dadyoow
Aden adde, best era in somali history, may allah grant that man paradise,
First african leader to step down peacefully after he lost the election (unfortunately, the rigged election)

Re: Xisbiyada Somaliland iyo Amiin Amiir
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:41 pm
by Somaliman50
fighter wrote:abakar20 wrote:so theres 10 political parties? i think the UK has about 13+ parties so its not too bad. somaliland political parties arent as progressed like western parties so wudnt it be a lot harder to understand what these different parties stand for and what they want? anyway i never supported democracy but any democratic country that doesnt put a cap on its number of parties is bound to fall apart. back in aden cadde's time, there were good efforts to keep the number of parties below half a dozen and it worked, but come the fall of '69, it got out of hand and look where it took us

ka taxadir dadyoow
Aden adde, best era in somali history, may allah grant that man paradise,
First african leader to step down peacefully after he lost the election (unfortunately, the rigged election)

you cant really say it was rigged sxb, give credit where its due, the electorate comitee guys in the 60s were decent men and aden cadde lost fair and square, albeit for different reasons.
and i never understood why african leaders in the AU didnt honour him as much even when he died, if he was such a 'great' democrat then they would have done a lot more.
Re: Xisbiyada Somaliland iyo Amiin Amiir
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:43 pm
by Methylamine
abdi.ismail wrote:I would laugh if it wasn't so sad. I don't know why they allowed more than three parties. Now even the camels will have their own xisbi.
The problem with Somaliland is there's to much emphasis on political "progress" and not enough on economic development. SMH
Couldn't have said it better

Re: Xisbiyada Somaliland iyo Amiin Amiir
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:47 pm
by fighter
abakar20 wrote:fighter wrote:abakar20 wrote:so theres 10 political parties? i think the UK has about 13+ parties so its not too bad. somaliland political parties arent as progressed like western parties so wudnt it be a lot harder to understand what these different parties stand for and what they want? anyway i never supported democracy but any democratic country that doesnt put a cap on its number of parties is bound to fall apart. back in aden cadde's time, there were good efforts to keep the number of parties below half a dozen and it worked, but come the fall of '69, it got out of hand and look where it took us

ka taxadir dadyoow
Aden adde, best era in somali history, may allah grant that man paradise,
First african leader to step down peacefully after he lost the election (unfortunately, the rigged election)

you cant really say it was rigged sxb, give credit where its due, the electorate comitee guys in the 60s were decent men and aden cadde lost fair and square, albeit for different reasons.
and i never understood why african leaders in the AU didnt honour him as much even when he died, if he was such a 'great' democrat then they would have done a lot more.
They don't credit him cause Africa is home to dictators and tyrants who kill their own ppl.
Re: Xisbiyada Somaliland iyo Amiin Amiir
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:01 pm
by Somaliman50
They don't credit him cause Africa is home to dictators and tyrants who kill their own ppl.
the AU have given tribute to many african leaders like kwame Nkrumah jomo kenyatta etc and even haile selassie, but i never hear them speak of aden cadde. infact aden cadde and kwame became president of their countries on the same day.
aden cadde has a unique history compared to the other many leaders of africa, his regime was never toppled, he was a foundin member of the AU in '63, he went through two presidential elections and a national war, all without upheaval. to top it off, he lived in his farm in his own country throughout the rest of his life and his life was never in a major political threat, even during the height of the civil war. and he recieved a state burial when he died. if the AU gave credit to anyone, it should have been him.

Re: Xisbiyada Somaliland iyo Amiin Amiir
Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:04 pm
by fighter
abakar20 wrote:They don't credit him cause Africa is home to dictators and tyrants who kill their own ppl.
the AU have given tribute to many african leaders like kwame Nkrumah jomo kenyatta etc and even haile selassie, but i never hear them speak of aden cadde. infact aden cadde and kwame became president of their countries on the same day.
aden cadde has a unique history compared to the other many leaders of africa, his regime was never toppled, he was a foundin member of the AU in '64, he went through two presidential elections and a national war, all without upheaval. to top it off, he lived in his farm in his own country throughout the rest of his life and his life was never in a major political threat, even during the height of the civil war. and he recieved a state burial when he died. if the AU gave credit to anyone, it should have been him.

