The Case for "Qabilism" [NOT a "Clan Post;" Open your Minds]

[Niya]

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[fighter]

Qabil is not a sin, but it will lead you to a sin. Only a wise man can use qabil to its correct manner. For instance in the history of Somalia, a man used qabil for good use whereas another man used it for a bad use, for instance Siad Barre a young man in charge of the military of Somalia did a coup, he used his kin to develop a strong state for 21 years, let it be General Cali Mataan for military help, or Dr. Gacaliye for foreign affairs related help or Dr Jama Shire for litterature, media, educational planning help and he imprisoned his kins if they showed a threat to his national intrest such as Dr Adan or Dr Laaw etc. Whereas we had a man 'Aidid' who used his kin to destroy Somalia and turn it into a failed state. Only. Wise man will use his kin for good use.

Therefore its not bad to use qabil unless you use it for bad purpose.

Look at this man. Lying about a dead man. Keep lying plz. For every lie or insult u do, u get their sins.

Do us a favor and keep doing it.

Your a sick man. Keep aidid out of ur mouth. He was a religious man unlike a certain man who said ISLAM and QURAN is arab fairy tales.

Lying losers

[XimanJaale]

Qabil is not a sin, but it will lead you to a sin. Only a wise man can use qabil to its correct manner. For instance in the history of Somalia, a man used qabil for good use whereas another man used it for a bad use, for instance Siad Barre a young man in charge of the military of Somalia did a coup, he used his kin to develop a strong state for 21 years, let it be General Cali Mataan for military help, or Dr. Gacaliye for foreign affairs related help or Dr Jama Shire for litterature, media, educational planning help and he imprisoned his kins if they showed a threat to his national intrest such as Dr Adan or Dr Laaw etc. Whereas we had a man 'Aidid' who used his kin to destroy Somalia and turn it into a failed state. Only. Wise man will use his kin for good use.

Therefore its not bad to use qabil unless you use it for bad purpose.

Look at this man. Lying about a dead man. Keep lying plz. For every lie or insult u do, u get their sins.

Do us a favor and keep doing it.

Your a sick man. Keep aidid out of ur mouth. He was a religious man unlike a certain man who said ISLAM and QURAN is arab fairy tales.

Lying losers

Looooool @ Aidid was a religous man. I feel sorry for those that take you serious.

[MrSinister]

Qabil and qabyalad is a shelter for the unaccomplished. A man child who still hasn't been weaned from his mothers breast milk has the audacity to insult professor samatar.

[fighter]

Lol wow, more propaganda from the Ghetto Alliance. Get lost

I'm guessing he was a closeted homosexual too right?

I weep for those who have been brainwashed with ur lies and propaganda.

Your a old geezer. Stay away from kids. We don't want them ending up being unemployed losers who praise the old murderous regime.

He was a god fearing man. Not like the man who insulted the deen and the book

Get bent

[XimanJaale]

Lol wow, more propaganda from the Ghetto Alliance. Get lost

I'm guessing he was a closeted homosexual too right?

I weep for those who have been brainwashed with ur lies and propaganda.

Your a old geezer. Stay away from kids. We don't want them ending up being unemployed losers who praise the old murderous regime.

He was a god fearing man. Not like the man who insulted the deen and the book

Get bent

Aidid was killed by a young small Hawiye boy, he dies whilst fighting for destruction. He had no political agenda, no strucutre, no plans, no humanity, no sympathy, no conscious, no limits. He was a empty man

Siad Barre was a leader for 21 years, he had skills and qualifications, he had power, he died a natural death in exile, he had goals, agendas, humanity, limits, he had his people's help, he had political allies, he had other countries leaders friendship, he had sympathy, he had a conscious.

Now tell me who needs propaganda?

P.s. Let's not go off-topic, this thread about qabil and its use. Bring examples but don't bring off-topic debates.

[Xamud.]

This is where I stand when it comes to Qabilism and Qabyaalad, the day I see all Somalis abandoning their tribes and going against the interest of their clan, and supporting the interest of Somalia and all Somalis, is the day I will leave my tribe behind. Am a nationalist, I would love nothing more than seeing a united Somalia, one nation, one people under one banner, but let`s be honest that`s never gonna happen, even if we unite, qabiil will never go away.

So yes I love qabiil, I love my fellow clansmen, and if am asked to pay qaraan(for good causes) and I got the money, I won`t blink twice, I encourage fellow clansmen to take in projects concerning the clan, I will teach my kids their abtirsi from get go. I believe that my tribe is a very big part of my identity.

If that makes me a qabiliste then fair enough.

[XimanJaale]

This is where I stand when it comes to Qabilism and Qabyaalad, the day I see all Somalis abandoning their tribes and going against the interest of their clan, and supporting the interest of Somalia and all Somalis, is the day I will leave my tribe behind. Am a nationalist, I would love nothing more than seeing a united Somalia, one nation, one people under one banner, but let`s be honest that`s never gonna happen, even if we unite, qabiil will never go away.

So yes I love qabiil, I love my fellow clansmen, and if am asked to pay qaraan(for good causes) and I got the money, I won`t blink twice, I encourage fellow clansmen to take in projects concerning the clan, I will teach my kids their abtirsi from get go. I believe that my tribe is a very big part of my identity.

If that makes me a qabiliste then fair enough.

Its normal for every Somali to think like that. But the main issue is, do you wish ill towards other clans? Would u use qabil in a bad way? That's the negative aspect, but wanting good for ur clan is good. 'Remember, you should want for your brother what you want for yourself' so whatver you want for ur qabil u should want it for other qabils. But sadly Somalis do not want good for other qabils, they want pain and misery for other qabils.

[Xamud.]

This is where I stand when it comes to Qabilism and Qabyaalad, the day I see all Somalis abandoning their tribes and going against the interest of their clan, and supporting the interest of Somalia and all Somalis, is the day I will leave my tribe behind. Am a nationalist, I would love nothing more than seeing a united Somalia, one nation, one people under one banner, but let`s be honest that`s never gonna happen, even if we unite, qabiil will never go away.

So yes I love qabiil, I love my fellow clansmen, and if am asked to pay qaraan(for good causes) and I got the money, I won`t blink twice, I encourage fellow clansmen to take in projects concerning the clan, I will teach my kids their abtirsi from get go. I believe that my tribe is a very big part of my identity.

If that makes me a qabiliste then fair enough.

Its normal for every Somali to think like that. But the main issue is, do you wish ill towards other clans? Would u use qabil in a bad way? That's the negative aspect, but wanting good for ur clan is good. 'Remember, you should want for your brother what you want for yourself' so whatver you want for ur qabil u should want it for other qabils. But sadly Somalis do not want good for other qabils, they want pain and misery for other qabils.

Nah I don`t really hate any tribes in particular and I don`t wish anyone bad, I never judge people based on their tribe, nor do I treat someone differently because of his/her tribe, I get along with all kinds of people from all kind of tribes. I just love my tribe that`s all.

[XimanJaale]

Nah I don`t really hate any tribes in particular and I don`t wish anyone bad, I never judge people based on their tribe, nor do I treat someone differently because of his/her tribe, I get along with all kinds of people from all kind of tribes. I just love my tribe that`s all.

Hence ur a good lad

[fighter]

Lol wow, more propaganda from the Ghetto Alliance. Get lost

I'm guessing he was a closeted homosexual too right?

I weep for those who have been brainwashed with ur lies and propaganda.

Your a old geezer. Stay away from kids. We don't want them ending up being unemployed losers who praise the old murderous regime.

He was a god fearing man. Not like the man who insulted the deen and the book

Get bent

Aidid was killed by a young small Hawiye boy, he dies whilst fighting for destruction. He had no political agenda, no strucutre, no plans, no humanity, no sympathy, no conscious, no limits. He was a empty man

Siad Barre was a leader for 21 years, he had skills and qualifications, he had power, he died a natural death in exile, he had goals, agendas, humanity, limits, he had his people's help, he had political allies, he had other countries leaders friendship, he had sympathy, he had a conscious.

Now tell me who needs propaganda?

P.s. Let's not go off-topic, this thread about qabil and its use. Bring examples but don't bring off-topic debates.

I'm certain it was you who went off topic first and called a dead man a murderer and lied about him.

[Lamagoodle]

Please, staff & patrons, keep an open mind and do not discriminate about the topic at hand. I'll keep this short and sweet.

I love my beautiful qabiil, I love the concept of qabiil, and I love the philosophy of qabyaalad.

Without the contribution of qabiil identity, Somalia and its culture---even its history simply f-king sucks. Take the rich heritage of qabiil out of the Somali way of life & worldview of the people and you have one of the most dull, tame, and uninspiring cultures in the world. Think about it, take the qabiil factor out and would you even have curiosity for whatever "Somali culture" that remains? Look at this forum itself - I came here due to a thirst for community among my clan and to learn as well as express to my kin the virtues and heritage of our qabiil. I'm not alone. Before he got soft, former regular poster Sadaam-Mariixmaan came to this forum at the age of 13 for the sole purpose of being in an environment where qabyaalad openly flourishes. And before poster Voltage lost his sanity, he too came to this forum in his teens with the sole aim of propping up the image of his otherwise-obscure clan, and now that he's forced qabyaalad out of his life he is no longer mentally sound unfortunately. Your "sheikh" mod Shirib too came to this forum to exact revenge for his troubled clan and to prop up their image [before he registered, the whole forum thought D&M abstained from any forms of technology]. Those examples are a drop in the bucket when it comes to that line of scenarios. Just look at this forum, everyone under the age of 20 has developed their clan identity on this forum and took part in the beautiful tradition of qabyaalad - and those people who are still under 20 are all engaged in qabyaalad, and they have all benefited immensely and will continue to benefit immensely.

Most embarrassing of all, to those who try and silence the timeless wisdom of qabyaalad and the observance of qabiil identity, saw exactly what happened when references to clan were made "prohibited" in this section; the disappearance of relevant and rich topics. Along with directly qabiil-addressed posts, also to disappear were clan-dependent historical topics, and most important of all even the "cultural" topics that some corrupt anti-qabyaalad apes revere so much, which ironically owes its strongest attributes to the unique regional diversity which owes its existence to the various qabiils who are strongly associated and even credited directly with the unique flavor. The "anti-qabilism" lunatics thought somehow that the Generals would be a place of non-clan (and thus non-Somali) related enlightenment - what a tragic joke it became.

Back to my first point - Somali culture is gay as shit without a healthy love for the customs of qabiilaha. Again, I ask you to think about it; what remains of "Somali culture" if you eliminate the only redeemable quality in our crude shared culture. People of this forum, what IS left I ask? Listening to folklore about some black ass motherfucker trekking the desert with his grotesque camels doesn't sound appealing unless he's got a slick rifle, perhaps a dozen additional musketeers, and an encounter [good or bad] with another clan. It gets worse if you try to define Somali culture without the qabiil-inspired regional diffusion; all we'd have left collectively is nomadism which is utterly retarded, canjeero which tastes awful & has the texture of a rectum, booty shaking which is sexually arousing but devoid of integrity, and most regrettable of all would be the practice of passing off South Asian garments (men&women) as being "authentic" to our culture when people deep in baadiya still wear the all-white two-piece (men) and one-piece (women) outfits. Our history, all that we have written or oral record of, would be practically non-existent since qabyaalad has been a factor in our history since the oldest detailed oral or written accounts, and without qabiil identity it would be incredibly boring and on par with the gay history of the dull Sidamas.

That's all I wanted to get across. You are free to deny yourself the richness of qabyaalad and qabiil identity, and to enjoy your empty uncultured life - but I plan to continue seeking pleasure, enlightenment, pride, culture, meaning, and safety in the fortress that is our clan system.





Habeen Wanaagsan & Wassalaamu Calaykum to you the readers.

Your love for social constructs is perhaps the result of a reptilian brain that is focused on the survival a primitive tenet that defies human evolution. Only a human being with a bankrupt intellectual brain will defy logic and make a case for the king of all maladies, tribalism.

[Monk-of-Mogadishu]

Go get raped you silly Xamari fuck. I was not aware that you were allowed to have an opinion. This topic is about Somalis for Somalis, go back to Tajikistan or whatever part of the world your confused guild of tribes crawled out of.

[Lamagoodle]

Go get raped you silly Xamari fuck. I was not aware that you were allowed to have an opinion. This topic is about Somalis for Somalis, go back to Tajikistan or whatever part of the world your confused guild of tribes crawled out of.

The theory of reptlien brain on some people is proven. Eureka

[FAH1223]

This love for clan always turns to hating other Somalis. Demeaning and dehumanizing other Somalis based on stereotypes, hearsay, and dumb tales from hundreds of years ago.

And let's not look at this civil war. Besides the brief lull in the modern era after colonialism, Somalis always killed each other for resources, territory, and domination. It just got out of control when you give these skinnies MODERN weapons and that's one of the many reasons the civil war has been 20 some odd years.

I think clan has its good with regards to identity and all that other sentimental shid. But it's the one cultural institution that must be reformed for our people to actually progress.