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Re: Somalia can feed itself with a little bit of investment.

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wow! I always knew anything great that came out of Somalia was done from the bottom up not the top down. Somalis doing good for themselves BY themselves and this right here is an excellent example of this. Thanks for sharing!! :som: :som:

The short fall in rain last couple of year have been a sure setback for the entire country, but it only emphasizes the need for farmers to rely on utilizing better techniques for their farming. That is to say, when life gives them lemons not only making lemonade, but using the best techniques possible to produce as much of it as they can.

I must say that I'm especially impressed with the project shared in the viewtopic.php?t=291466&p=3427902 topic. :up: :shock:

The technique they are using looks to be one free of dangerous pesticides and making full use of irrigation system, and can serve as a great model easily implemented throughout the Gedo region and throughout Somalia!

If only more organizations continued to invest in sustainable and self-sufficient projects to help farmers, such as those in these communities, I honestly think there would be a much effective solution to end this food insecurity. Bravo! :som:
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Re: Somalia can feed itself with a little bit of investment.

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not only can somalia feed itself, it can also become a major exporter. :up:
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Re: Somalia can feed itself with a little bit of investment.

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Somalia needs peace more than investment. The areas that are prospering the most in Somalia are the most peaceful ones, even though many of those regions are traditionally the poorest.
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James Dahl wrote:Somalia needs peace more than investment. The areas that are prospering the most in Somalia are the most peaceful ones, even though many of those regions are traditionally the poorest.
True, there needs to be a political solution to Somalia's problems; however, projects such as the one's listed in this thread are essential to the peace process because they give the people a source of livelihood and an incentive to lay down their arms.
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James Dahl wrote:Somalia needs peace more than investment. The areas that are prospering the most in Somalia are the most peaceful ones, even though many of those regions are traditionally the poorest.
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Re: Somalia can feed itself with a little bit of investment.

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union wrote:
James Dahl wrote:Somalia needs peace more than investment. The areas that are prospering the most in Somalia are the most peaceful ones, even though many of those regions are traditionally the poorest.
True, there needs to be a political solution to Somalia's problems; however, projects such as the one's listed in this thread are essential to the peace process because they give the people a source of livelihood and an incentive to lay down their arms.
Having them understand this is the problem. But yes, once the people being a method of subsistence, security will come out of it. This will even lead to profit and prosperity.

I have a question - how are land claims dealt with? Although hunger can very likely be wiped out, how do you address the problem of land claims and disputes?
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Re: Somalia can feed itself with a little bit of investment.

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Union is absolutely right James. There has to be an alternative to the civil war or the religious extremism and that alternative should be based on economic opportunity and the ability for Somalis to feed and care for themselves with dignity and honor. It is an essential part of conflict resolution anywhere in the world whereby tackling the presiding social disparities of the people in conflict you take away a key motivation that sustains the nature of conflict and friction. A Somali with the opportunity to grow his own food crop and that of his family and people will be less reluctant to entertain conflict or the ability of it to persist. The process of attaining peace is mutually dependent on the possibility of economic and social empowerment.

Alpha, as I have read, the land is bigger than the people. When you take a look at a place like Khadijo Haji (Exhibit #1) where a little investment in flood control dykes has allowed the irrigation and arability of land that has not be cultivated or used in 20 years, you realize land is not an issue. It is a matter of how much land to invest in. It would be interesting to know the specifics with which the people there have organized their plots and claims, but it seems to me as if it is shared as a communal plot and people who work on it get an equitable share. It seems an appropriate thing to do as these people in the Gedo Region have as a priority finding food and the more resources in manpower the larger the cultivation.
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Re: Somalia can feed itself with a little bit of investment.

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Amethyst wrote: If only more organizations continued to invest in sustainable and self-sufficient projects to help farmers, such as those in these communities, I honestly think there would be a much effective solution to end this food insecurity. Bravo! :som:
This is a sentiment many people concerned about the plight of Somalia share. It takes a fraction of what is used to put down emergencies to prevent it. If Somalia, and this seeds of hope in this region of Gedo, received in investment a fraction of what the famine appeals led to it, there is the possibility the effects of the famine might not have been so dire.
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Re: Somalia can feed itself with a little bit of investment.

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Exhibit #6: The tourist and economic possibilities of Bardere, Gedo

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=296019#p3505434
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Re: Somalia can feed itself with a little bit of investment.

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It's absolutely true that investment and development can have a huge impact, but the reason why this was possible at all was peace and the rule of law.

The smell of money in a lawless area or warzone will have every armed man within a hundred miles descending on whatever project like a pack of starving wolves.
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Re: Somalia can feed itself with a little bit of investment.

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If I am not mistaken James, are saying investment in its totality is inappropriate in present-Somalia when it needs it the most? I find that very unfortunate and even disheartening. While I am sure you, as a non-Somali Western man from Canada, could be forgiven for being susceptible to the limitations of an individual who does not have physical or familial contacts with the land in question, I am not sure I could be forgiven for making such an unfortunate assessment.

If you notice in Exhibit #1, the nearest major town to the farming commune is the town of Beled-Hawo. My mother's brother lives in that town right now and two months ago, I started a topic in a relevant Somalinet section announcing my brother would be visiting that town and surrounding areas (he has since come back with joyful and optimistic tales):
Voltage wrote:So my older brother left for Africa today
by Voltage » Thu Nov 17, 2011

He will be in Nairobi for a week and in Gedo for 25 days, mostly in Beled-Xaawo area.

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=291075
It is understandable when speaking about places in conflict, especially in Africa and particularly in Somalia, many people could be pessimistic, but if there is one thing donors have learned about Somalia and the recent famine is that the perceived suspicions and notions should not be used by the vehicle of pessimism which prevents meaningful contact and contribution to the livelihood development of some of the world's most disadvantaged peoples. I say this because, while as you have outlined concerns about conflict, the on-ground assessment my brother made was people are fed up with war and just as much if not even more they are fed up with feeling hopeless and disenfranchised. On the issue of security, he relayed how the area has been captured from the Al Shabaab militant group a year ago by Transitional Government soldiers and since then order and security was paramount for the authorities. He said no one carried arms, people went about their life in peace, and there was even a district court that fairly arbitrated concerns and dealt with petty crime.

You speak in generalities James, but specific assessments say otherwise. The situation of Somalia is not stagnant and change is all over. If I could use Exhibit #1 as an example, what transpired from that investment? Here is Exhibit #1:
Exhibit #1: Transformation of a village near B/xaawo, Gedo

viewtopic.php?f=26&t=295821
This investment would not have successfully be implemented turning barren land into fertile land and providing sustenance for a people who would otherwise have been dependent on donated food aid if the type of unfortunate pessimism you expressed was widespread. Because that small investment went ahead, according to the UNDP article, the project employed:

-- 1,794 people in the local community of which 1, 120 were unskilled laborers
--10 masons and 56 foremen
--180 laborers for the construction of dykes

Some results of the project were:

--1200 hectares of unused land irrigated by proper dyke control
--Proper allocation of farm plots settled at 1.2 to 3.5 hectares
--Retention of mineral-rich soil capable of producing variety of crops
--Farming of maize/corn, cowpeas, simsim, watermelon, and sorghum
--Per household harvest of 7 to 35 bags of crops enough for consumption as well as selling

What a wonderful small-scale investment project that should be strengthened, utilized, and replicated throughout the rest of Gedo Region and Somalia. It is the only future for my country birth and disadvantaged people of origin. :up:
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Vo aka baraka

Your zeal for Somalia scares me walaal. In fact, the ONLY time i see u remotely 'eloquent' is when u write about Somalia and the woe it faces. Wow is Somalia and Woe is me. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Somalia can feed itself with a little bit of investment.

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quark wrote:not only can somalia feed itself, it can also become a major exporter. :up:
true. :up:
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Post by Somalian_Boqor »

This is indeed among the positive news coming out of Somalia lately. Somalia does not need food handout but rather self-sufficient projects to help farmers. That point could not have been prove far more Superior than by these latest development and pictures that show real change taking place at the grass-root. :som: :up:
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Re: Somalia can feed itself with a little bit of investment.

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Voltage my friend you see the reason why this project has succeeded.
On the issue of security, he relayed how the area has been captured from the Al Shabaab militant group a year ago by Transitional Government soldiers and since then order and security was paramount for the authorities. He said no one carried arms, people went about their life in peace, and there was even a district court that fairly arbitrated concerns and dealt with petty crime.
These good people have the very thing that eludes most of the country, they have peace and the rule of law. I am willing to bet far more has been spent for far less effect in more war-torn areas of the country.
I am not a pessimist at all, in fact this proves that with peace and the rule of law, Somali people can do amazing things and pull themselves out of poverty with their hard work. Even with no investment I bet the local people could have vastly improved their lot by the sheer "sweat of their brows", it's just much faster with money.
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