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Re: PM Melez Zenawi discussing ethiopian troops
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:16 pm
by XimanJaale
Ethiopia was not defeated in 2009.
They withdraw because it part of the peace deal between Sheik Shariff (Djbouti group) and TFG.
Re: PM Melez Zenawi discussing ethiopian troops
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:21 pm
by grandpakhalif
XimanJaale wrote:Ethiopia was not defeated in 2009.
They withdraw because it part of the peace deal between Sheik Shariff (Djbouti group) and TFG.
Teach this kid Shirib the reality.

Re: PM Melez Zenawi discussing ethiopian troops
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 2:22 pm
by Shirib
Guulwade Ethiopia

Re: PM Melez Zenawi discussing ethiopian troops
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:11 pm
by Adali
SahanGalbeed wrote:Adali , what is the reason behind it , the Ethiopian withdrawal ?
their goal was not to occupy Mogadisho indefinitely, their withdrawal was not a retreat but a mark of victory, they had decapitated the ICU and left the movement split and chaotic. Ethiopia's military has only been defeated by the Kacaan, since then the only Somali groups who have threatened Ethiopia have been Al-Itixaad and ONLF but even they have not achieved anything of significance.
Shirib
you are deluded if you think Somalis defeated Ethiopian invasion. what objectives did the Ethiopians not reach ?
Re: PM Melez Zenawi discussing ethiopian troops
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:13 pm
by samatar133
By the time Ethiopia left 2009, they almost had already acheived their goals.The ismalic courts union was almost neutralised and the detruction of Bakara market was welcomed with uninhibited euphoria by both Meles and Cabdilaahi yuusuf, because Bakara market was seen the nerve and economic centre of Moqdisho which without it's destruction their respective goals would not have been materialised. cabdilahi yusufs fear of HG dominance was neutralised and Meles Zenawi's fear of Somalia's re_emerging with Islamic and nationalistic charecter was neutralised too. Bakara market was the engine driving of those paranoia

Re: PM Melez Zenawi discussing ethiopian troops
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:15 pm
by abdisamad3
Re: PM Melez Zenawi discussing ethiopian troops
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:17 pm
by abdisamad3
btw shirib Ethiopia was never defeated bro, they just got replaced by Ugandans/Burundians..And stupid shabab shot them self's in the foot by turning every one against them when they declared alliagence to al qaida iyo waxaan loo joogin..

Re: PM Melez Zenawi discussing ethiopian troops
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:24 pm
by zingii
grandpakhalif:lol:
Ethiopia wasn't defeated, they conquered Muqdishu for the first time and it was a great revenge for Ethiopia after Somalia humiliated them in 1977. For them it was a moral victory, also it was brokered peace agreement between the ICU and TFG in Djibouti which allowed for the withdrawal of Ethiopia.
They got a beat down that would remain engraved in their hearts and minds for generations to come. It was too much action for them to handle and thus retreated with their tail between their legs.
The peace agreement served them as a mask to hide the real intention of their withdrawal from their own citizens as to not appear weak and risk coup attempts
Re: PM Melez Zenawi discussing ethiopian troops
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:26 pm
by Adali
samatar133 wrote:By the time Ethiopia left 2009, they almost had already acheived their goals.The ismalic courts was almost neutralised and the detruction of Bakara market was welcomed with uninhibited euphoria by both Meles and Cabdilaahi yuusuf, because Bakara market was seen the nerve and economic centre of Moqdisho which without it's destruction their respective goals would not have been materialised. cabdilahi yusufs fear of HG dominance was neutralised and Meles Zenawi's fear of Somalia's re_emerging with Islamic and nationalistic charecter was neutralised too. Bakara market was the engine driving of those paranoia

exactly, military operation target and destroys the enemies economic centers and places of strategic importance.
Re: PM Melez Zenawi discussing ethiopian troops
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 3:36 pm
by grandpakhalif
samatar133 wrote:By the time Ethiopia left 2009, they almost had already acheived their goals.The ismalic courts union was almost neutralised and the detruction of Bakara market was welcomed with uninhibited euphoria by both Meles and Cabdilaahi yuusuf, because Bakara market was seen the nerve and economic centre of Moqdisho which without it's destruction their respective goals would not have been materialised. cabdilahi yusufs fear of HG dominance was neutralised and Meles Zenawi's fear of Somalia's re_emerging with Islamic and nationalistic charecter was neutralised too. Bakara market was the engine driving of those paranoia

Exactly.
Re: PM Melez Zenawi discussing ethiopian troops
Posted: Thu Feb 02, 2012 4:50 pm
by MenaceToSociety
You give credit when is do....I believe Meles is an intelligent man...He has changed his country..although he is a dictator...I aint mad the player im mad at the game....We have put ourselves in this predicament....but you now, they say, every dog has his day...our day shall come..