Reminder for all the Muslims, especially Union

[grandpakhalif]

NoAngst so your saying there's no evidence for hell so it doesn't exist? I wonder if union agrees.

[NoAngst.]

NoAngst so your saying there's no evidence for hell so it doesn't exist? I wonder if union agrees.

No! What I'm saying is logical fallacies like appeal to authority (shiikh bud la seexde said so and so), appeal to fear (if you don't eat your diner, I'm gonna spank you), appeal to emotion (if you don't do x, y wont like), etc are not legitimate arguments. Just because you post a video that claims hell is awaiting Union doesn't mean Union's views and arguments are wrong. If you disagree with him, produce counter arguments and evidence to back them up. Don't appeal to logical fallacies. What do they teach you guys nowadays in schools? Did any of you take logic or debating classes in High School?

[Kukri]

NoAngst so your saying there's no evidence for hell so it doesn't exist? I wonder if union agrees.

No! What I'm saying is logical fallacies like appeal to authority (shiikh bud la seexde said so and so), appeal to fear (if you don't eat your diner, I'm gonna spank you), appeal to emotion (if you don't do x, y wont like), etc are not legitimate arguments. Just because you post a video that claims hell is awaiting Union doesn't mean Union's views and arguments are wrong. If you disagree with him, produce counter arguments and evidence to back them up. Don't appeal to logical fallacies. What do they teach you guys nowadays in schools? Did any of you take logic or debating classes in High School?

Now its all clear where your sharpness come from.

[Saraxnow]

I don't think she's saying that hell is awaiting union but that she's posting a video of recitations as a *reminder*, reminding each other is supposed to be the norm anyway.


Jimco wanaagsan everyone

@Bleached, I would suggest you seek help asap walaal,ilaahay ha ku sahlo..

[Enlightened~Sista]

Jazakillaaah Kulla Khair BV.

[1-Londoner]

Bleached,

Ilaahey hooyodaa khair ha siiyo walal. InshAllah just make a lot of du'ca sis ileen the only one you can turn to in times of need is Alla swt. Again, may Allah make it easy for you.

[Enlightened~Sista]

Bleached,

Ilaahey hooyodaa khair ha siiyo walal. InshAllah just make a lot of du'ca sis ileen the only one you can turn to in times of need is Alla swt. Again, may Allah make it easy for you.

Ameen. Bleachedhime, seek professional help for your Mum don't listen to ignorant Somalis.

[accident]

NoAngst so your saying there's no evidence for hell so it doesn't exist? I wonder if union agrees.

No! What I'm saying is logical fallacies like appeal to authority (shiikh bud la seexde said so and so), appeal to fear (if you don't eat your diner, I'm gonna spank you), appeal to emotion (if you don't do x, y wont like), etc are not legitimate arguments. Just because you post a video that claims hell is awaiting Union doesn't mean Union's views and arguments are wrong. If you disagree with him, produce counter arguments and evidence to back them up. Don't appeal to logical fallacies. What do they teach you guys nowadays in schools? Did any of you take logic or debating classes in High School?

[Nanees]

Masha'allah waa run walaalo macaanto.

Jimco wanaagsan oo wacan dhaman walaalayaal!
Walaalayaal hala is cafiyo oo hala isku dulqaato, waxaynu nahay dad walaalo ah oo wada dhashaye.
In ta aynu noolnahayna waa ay iska yartahay oo waa ayaamo. Markaa walaalayaal waxa fiican in aynu wakhtigeena ka faa'ideysano oo shaqo iyo hawl wanaagsan qabano, Illahayna ku xidhnaano oo xasuusnaano.


Also, can you guys help me with this one problem, i'm compeletely lost and don't know what to do anymore. This is really complicated and my somali and english suck so i hope you'll understand me.

For the past 10 years my mother's suffered from paranoia schizophrenia. This is complicated but basically,she believes that people are out to get her our take us( me and my brother) away from her. From morning till night she's threatening the Wall and telling it to leave her and us alone. Waxay la hadlaysaana marna waa Illaahay, marna waa shaytan. It's really scary to look at her, especially her eyes.
And her health has getting worse and worse. Waxayna hadana billowday inay tidhaahdo cancer baa caloosha iyo the lungs igaga dhacay.
Dariskana way naga dacwoodeen oo waxay yidhaahdeen way buuq badan yihiin reerkani, hadda waxaan maraynaa digniintii 2aad oo ta 3aad guriga ayaa nalaga saaraya.
It's really uncountable how many times hada iskoolada laga soo tuuray. Seriously, magaalada oo dhan way yaqaanaan hooyahay.
As kids me and my brother had no help, we literally brought our selfs up and there was no father figure to help us, he left us, 16 years ago, when my brother was only 2 months old and apparently he also had some mental issues and used to beat her.

The big problem here my moms sisters are against me seeking help.They are saying that "Gaalada ayaa irbad ku mudi doonta oo dib dambe loo arki maayo" or "Gaalada ayaa idin qaadanaysaa oo dib dambe hooyadin u arki maysaan" Excuse me?! And the annoying thing is that they have no solutions to this problem and don't want to do a damn thing about it either. Well one of my aunts came here(illegally) to help us with taking care of my mom, last year. But..she...basically moved out a few months ago and said "Jeelkan kuma noolaanayo ee "ma'ca salaama".

Anyway, i'm not 18 yet but I'm old enough to make my own decisions and insha'allah I'll do whatever I can to to help my mother so brothers and sisters noo soo duceeya oo noo barya in hooyoday Illaahay noo caafiyo.
So, What do you guys think i should do? Should I wait till i turn 18, which is in may, should I listen to my aunts or should i seek help as soon as possible?

My time is limited since I'm at the library so bye for now. /Waves.

May Allah make things easy for you and your family.

How about you come up with a deal? If their methods of helping your mom dont work after 8 months, you take her to see a psychiatrist and get medication.

[BlackVelvet]

Bleach that is a very difficult situation, you probably understand the pros and cons much better than any of us. Either way though your mother should go to a doctor and seek help. Ilaahey ha idiin wada fududeeyo. Amiin

Thank you for the fire and brimstone BV, but unless someone proves to me my ideas are bad for society I won't stop believing in them.

We all have questions, ask things we shouldn't ask and say things we shouldn't say. The reason I singled you out is because you preach what you believe. It is admirable that you are so sure of yourself, but how sure are you of Islam? Have you looked to the Quran to see what it says about your ideas, have you studied Islam to see where your ideas fit?

These questions are rhetorical you of course don't need to explain yourself to me and I am too unqualified to debate on Islam. I just watched that video and thought I should share it. It is one thing to be a imperfect human who makes a lot of mistakes, it is another to go out of your way to redefine Islam. You might argue that you are not redefining Islam, that that is its message but can you then explain to any of us, using verses of the Quran or Hadiths, how it is that Islam is okay with the strong opinions you hold? If you can't, then should you be preaching/fighting for your ideas?

All I'm saying is be sure of what you say especially when it comes to Islam. There is a hefty price if you are wrong.

[BlackVelvet]

NoAngst so your saying there's no evidence for hell so it doesn't exist? I wonder if union agrees.

No! What I'm saying is logical fallacies like appeal to authority (shiikh bud la seexde said so and so), appeal to fear (if you don't eat your diner, I'm gonna spank you), appeal to emotion (if you don't do x, y wont like), etc are not legitimate arguments. Just because you post a video that claims hell is awaiting Union doesn't mean Union's views and arguments are wrong. If you disagree with him, produce counter arguments and evidence to back them up. Don't appeal to logical fallacies. What do they teach you guys nowadays in schools? Did any of you take logic or debating classes in High School?

Wow, where did I say hell is awaiting Union? I don't know where I'm going to end up, how do you suppose I know where Union is?

I don't know if you are a Muslim or believe in the Quran but those ayats speak about Hell which is real, it speaks about the regret that the dwellers of the Hellfire will have. It is not a fallacy it is a warning to us by Allah. I am not arguing with Union about Islam or his opinions on the matter. The point of the thread, since you've missed it, is unless you have gone and studied Islam and unless you have solid Ayats or Hadiths to back you up then you shouldn't argue about Islam or preach your opinions to others. It is a mistake a lot of people make on SNet but some more than others.

[Alphanumeric]

There are those here who are worse than union. Singling him out is uncalled for. Even if the stuff he says is horrible, much worse is said. Even if what he says is misleading and incorrect, all that needs to be done is to bring evidence to disprove his claims. That isn't very difficult for anyone who tries. But it's become obvious very few are willing to do that. Rather, they would feed their egos as well as his by parading around on high horses. I wonder how many of you folks dream about this dude, since he's obviously constantly on your minds. This is ridiculous.

[accident]

There are those here who are worse than union. Singling him out is uncalled for. Even if the stuff he says is horrible, much worse is said. Even if what he says is misleading and incorrect, all that needs to be done is to bring evidence to disprove his claims. That isn't very difficult for anyone who tries. But it's become obvious very few are willing to do that. Rather, they would feed their egos as well as his by parading around on high horses. I wonder how many of you folks dream about this dude, since he's obviously constantly on your minds. This is ridiculous.

It's like they get high off calling him a Murtad.

[Protagonist]

I don't understand why you guys are sticking up for Union, its obvious he is an atheist.

[BlackVelvet]

There are those here who are worse than union. Singling him out is uncalled for. Even if the stuff he says is horrible, much worse is said. Even if what he says is misleading and incorrect, all that needs to be done is to bring evidence to disprove his claims. That isn't very difficult for anyone who tries. But it's become obvious very few are willing to do that. Rather, they would feed their egos as well as his by parading around on high horses. I wonder how many of you folks dream about this dude, since he's obviously constantly on your minds. This is ridiculous.

Are you addressing me?