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grandpakhalif wrote:NoAngst so your saying there's no evidence for hell so it doesn't exist? I wonder if union agrees.

NoAngst. wrote:

grandpakhalif wrote:NoAngst so your saying there's no evidence for hell so it doesn't exist? I wonder if union agrees.

No! What I'm saying is logical fallacies like appeal to authority (shiikh bud la seexde said so and so), appeal to fear (if you don't eat your diner, I'm gonna spank you), appeal to emotion (if you don't do x, y wont like), etc are not legitimate arguments. Just because you post a video that claims hell is awaiting Union doesn't mean Union's views and arguments are wrong. If you disagree with him, produce counter arguments and evidence to back them up. Don't appeal to logical fallacies. What do they teach you guys nowadays in schools? Did any of you take logic or debating classes in High School?

1-Londoner wrote:Bleached,

Ilaahey hooyodaa khair ha siiyo walal. InshAllah just make a lot of du'ca sis ileen the only one you can turn to in times of need is Alla swt. Again, may Allah make it easy for you.

NoAngst. wrote:

grandpakhalif wrote:NoAngst so your saying there's no evidence for hell so it doesn't exist? I wonder if union agrees.

No! What I'm saying is logical fallacies like appeal to authority (shiikh bud la seexde said so and so), appeal to fear (if you don't eat your diner, I'm gonna spank you), appeal to emotion (if you don't do x, y wont like), etc are not legitimate arguments. Just because you post a video that claims hell is awaiting Union doesn't mean Union's views and arguments are wrong. If you disagree with him, produce counter arguments and evidence to back them up. Don't appeal to logical fallacies. What do they teach you guys nowadays in schools? Did any of you take logic or debating classes in High School?

Bleachedhime wrote:Masha'allah waa run walaalo macaanto.

Jimco wanaagsan oo wacan dhaman walaalayaal!
Walaalayaal hala is cafiyo oo hala isku dulqaato, waxaynu nahay dad walaalo ah oo wada dhashaye.
In ta aynu noolnahayna waa ay iska yartahay oo waa ayaamo. Markaa walaalayaal waxa fiican in aynu wakhtigeena ka faa'ideysano oo shaqo iyo hawl wanaagsan qabano, Illahayna ku xidhnaano oo xasuusnaano.


Also, can you guys help me with this one problem, i'm compeletely lost and don't know what to do anymore. This is really complicated and my somali and english suck so i hope you'll understand me.

For the past 10 years my mother's suffered from paranoia schizophrenia. This is complicated but basically,she believes that people are out to get her our take us( me and my brother) away from her. From morning till night she's threatening the Wall and telling it to leave her and us alone. Waxay la hadlaysaana marna waa Illaahay, marna waa shaytan. It's really scary to look at her, especially her eyes.
And her health has getting worse and worse. Waxayna hadana billowday inay tidhaahdo cancer baa caloosha iyo the lungs igaga dhacay.
Dariskana way naga dacwoodeen oo waxay yidhaahdeen way buuq badan yihiin reerkani, hadda waxaan maraynaa digniintii 2aad oo ta 3aad guriga ayaa nalaga saaraya.
It's really uncountable how many times hada iskoolada laga soo tuuray. Seriously, magaalada oo dhan way yaqaanaan hooyahay.
As kids me and my brother had no help, we literally brought our selfs up and there was no father figure to help us, he left us, 16 years ago, when my brother was only 2 months old and apparently he also had some mental issues and used to beat her.

The big problem here my moms sisters are against me seeking help.They are saying that "Gaalada ayaa irbad ku mudi doonta oo dib dambe loo arki maayo" or "Gaalada ayaa idin qaadanaysaa oo dib dambe hooyadin u arki maysaan" Excuse me?! And the annoying thing is that they have no solutions to this problem and don't want to do a damn thing about it either. Well one of my aunts came here(illegally) to help us with taking care of my mom, last year. But..she...basically moved out a few months ago and said "Jeelkan kuma noolaanayo ee "ma'ca salaama".

Anyway, i'm not 18 yet but I'm old enough to make my own decisions and insha'allah I'll do whatever I can to to help my mother so brothers and sisters noo soo duceeya oo noo barya in hooyoday Illaahay noo caafiyo.
So, What do you guys think i should do? Should I wait till i turn 18, which is in may, should I listen to my aunts or should i seek help as soon as possible?

My time is limited since I'm at the library so bye for now. /Waves.

union wrote:Thank you for the fire and brimstone BV, but unless someone proves to me my ideas are bad for society I won't stop believing in them.

NoAngst. wrote:

grandpakhalif wrote:NoAngst so your saying there's no evidence for hell so it doesn't exist? I wonder if union agrees.

No! What I'm saying is logical fallacies like appeal to authority (shiikh bud la seexde said so and so), appeal to fear (if you don't eat your diner, I'm gonna spank you), appeal to emotion (if you don't do x, y wont like), etc are not legitimate arguments. Just because you post a video that claims hell is awaiting Union doesn't mean Union's views and arguments are wrong. If you disagree with him, produce counter arguments and evidence to back them up. Don't appeal to logical fallacies. What do they teach you guys nowadays in schools? Did any of you take logic or debating classes in High School?

Alphanumeric wrote:There are those here who are worse than union. Singling him out is uncalled for. Even if the stuff he says is horrible, much worse is said. Even if what he says is misleading and incorrect, all that needs to be done is to bring evidence to disprove his claims. That isn't very difficult for anyone who tries. But it's become obvious very few are willing to do that. Rather, they would feed their egos as well as his by parading around on high horses. I wonder how many of you folks dream about this dude, since he's obviously constantly on your minds. This is ridiculous.

Alphanumeric wrote:There are those here who are worse than union. Singling him out is uncalled for. Even if the stuff he says is horrible, much worse is said. Even if what he says is misleading and incorrect, all that needs to be done is to bring evidence to disprove his claims. That isn't very difficult for anyone who tries. But it's become obvious very few are willing to do that. Rather, they would feed their egos as well as his by parading around on high horses. I wonder how many of you folks dream about this dude, since he's obviously constantly on your minds. This is ridiculous.