Ala Sheikh are the follows of Sheikh Maxamed Macallin?

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It leads to nothing more than "my clan started this group and your clan stole it", as you said in your post. You are not using it properly, so don't use it at all.
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accident wrote:It leads to nothing more than "my clan started this group and your clan stole it", as you said in your post. You are not using it properly, so don't use it at all.
:lol: i was wrong on that one.
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It is ludicrous to put Al Islaax before Ahlu Sunnah on your scale. :lol: All those groups and their precursors have at one point or another armed themselves to put their point across. Al Islaax have not. I understand Ahlu Sunnah had to defend themselves but that doesn't change the point.
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RovingMadness wrote:The Ala Shiekh are named after the uncle of The Doha based Prof Afyare Elmi. When the Siyad Barre government cracked down on the Somali Akhwan-ul-Muslimeen, some deserted & formed Al-Islaax while others stood by the Shiekh & were called Ala Shiekh. 
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RovingMadness wrote:The Ala Shiekh are named after the uncle of The Doha based Prof Afyare Elmi. When the Siyad Barre government cracked down on the Somali Akhwan-ul-Muslimeen, some deserted & formed Al-Islaax while others stood by the Shiekh & were called Ala Shiekh. 
not the same subclan afyare is agoon.
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sahal80 wrote:
RovingMadness wrote:The Ala Shiekh are named after the uncle of The Doha based Prof Afyare Elmi. When the Siyad Barre government cracked down on the Somali Akhwan-ul-Muslimeen, some deserted & formed Al-Islaax while others stood by the Shiekh & were called Ala Shiekh. 
not the same subclan afyare is agoon.

I know that.
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I know ala sheikh very well. They run Somalia.
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RovingMadness wrote:
sahal80 wrote:
RovingMadness wrote:The Ala Shiekh are named after the uncle of The Doha based Prof Afyare Elmi. When the Siyad Barre government cracked down on the Somali Akhwan-ul-Muslimeen, some deserted & formed Al-Islaax while others stood by the Shiekh & were called Ala Shiekh. 
not the same subclan afyare is agoon.

I know that.

What is your opinion of this group and the political sway they hold?
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They are everything thats wrong with Somalia. Ala Shiekh is a self-serving group of phony scoundrels that wants to impose its mafia agenda on the people of Somalia & they must be stopped. It's curious though how they continuously reinvent themselves while at the same time denying that they even exist. It's like a secret society & it's members only stand for the defense & sustainability of their gang agenda rather than leading Somalia forward. 
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RovingMadness wrote:They are everything thats wrong with Somalia. Ala Shiekh is a self-serving group of phony scoundrels that wants to impose its mafia agenda on the people of Somalia & they must be stopped. It's curious though how they continuously reinvent themselves while at the same time denying that they even exist. It's like a secret society & it's members only stand for the defense & sustainability of their gang agenda rather than leading Somalia forward. 
Isn't Sharif a member as well? Why do you support him if you believe he's leading this agenda? What is even their agenda?

If what you're saying is accurate it seems like Mahiga is ahead of the curve here.
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Jaidi wrote:
RovingMadness wrote:They are everything thats wrong with Somalia. Ala Shiekh is a self-serving group of phony scoundrels that wants to impose its mafia agenda on the people of Somalia & they must be stopped. It's curious though how they continuously reinvent themselves while at the same time denying that they even exist. It's like a secret society & it's members only stand for the defense & sustainability of their gang agenda rather than leading Somalia forward. 
Isn't Sharif a member as well? Why do you support him if you believe he's leading this agenda? What is even their agenda?

If what you're saying is accurate it seems like Mahiga is ahead of the curve here.

We support the government because it's our our boys that are dying to defend it & it's our regions that are hosting this bloody conflict. It has nothing to do with Sharif & come August 12th in the event of his departure, I don't think many people will be missing him. He has imposed his agenda driven by personal ambitions on the people of Mogadishu & has brought political confusion & disorganization to his people undermining their voice & legitimate position. 

The agenda of Ala Shiekh is one of survivability. It stands for nothing except the maintaining of it's rotten & corrupted existence. 
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RovingMadness wrote:They are everything thats wrong with Somalia. Ala Shiekh is a self-serving group of phony scoundrels that wants to impose its mafia agenda on the people of Somalia & they must be stopped. It's curious though how they continuously reinvent themselves while at the same time denying that they even exist. It's like a secret society & it's members only stand for the defense & sustainability of their gang agenda rather than leading Somalia forward. 

Ditto. I personaly will tolerate clan differences, political idealogy differences instead of these foolish secretarian differences. At least people who hail from different clans, or have different political views on the economy, foreign policy, etc. can find common ground. As for this phony 'Aala Sheikh' group though it is very simple either You are a part of their mysterious self serving group or You have no place in Somali Government. Heck I actually prefer the warlord era over this garbage.


Are these guys still gaining influence or are they on the way down?
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voltage, i think you are confusing two different people.

sheikh maxamad macalin xasan, who as sahal mentioned, was a famous sheikh born in buur hakaba, who was a student at azhar, and studied with sh shareef abdinoor. he use to be the imam of masjidka isbahaysiga after the civil war. he was never part of the icu, or any other xarakaat at that time and he died in the early 2000s in italy. he played a huge role in the dacwah in somalia, and was imprisoned twice for his work. some of his students wrote a book about him and it is available in mogadiscio. some interesting things about him was that sh abdalhameed kischk (famous egyptian scholar and mufti of azhar) helped him write his thesis. and he also met sayd qutb during the ikhwan uprising in secret from fear of being deported by jamal abdenasser. the only movement he ever lead was an-nahda, which started in mogadiscio 1967 by him, sh garyare and others, then they changed it to al ahli. at that time the northerners set up al wahda, whose members also played a role in the later itihaad. aala sheekh were never an official harakah, it was his followers from al ahli who differentiated themselves from the ikhwani guys aka the islaah.

another different sheikh maxamad macalin was part of itihaad and also until recently was a major player of hisbul islaam, he was a close ally of sh dahir aweys, i think this was the guy who spoke to barre hiiraale back then due to clan negotiations.
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Re: Ala Sheikh are the follows of Sheikh Maxamed Macallin?

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Whatever opportunity that presented itself through this hush-hush plan B of Al Shabab called "Ala Sheikh" is being neutralized thanks to Puntland and Mahiga. There will be no more puppet back door dealing like Farmaajo... So Voltage, if I were you I'd forget about it lol.

It's all about transparency from here on you hear, trust me nobody is looking to seal his fate like the Abgal president; history I think will judge this groups as being no more then a blessing in disguise which forced unwilling participant to ink both Garowe I and II.
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