Professor Axmed Samatar rejects dawarsi state

[Khalid Ali]

Dr. Khalid

Ahmed Samatar speaks his mind and that's mindful, laakiinse I didn't anticipate Somaliweyn would happen, dream of Somaliweyn is too early to dream of.......

Yes Ahmed Samatar speaks his mind he and his brother speak their mind they got the confidence from their reer abti

Rightwing the only way A Somaliweyn ever can exist is like the EU model every country its own national identity and country while sharing perhaps a common currency Belgium and Netherlands are two different country but both members of the EU u can travel with you're EU documents any where to Europe. Something like that will benefit us all but Somaliland and Somalia and Djibouti sharing one government one flag and nation is out of the question will never happen.

[Rightwing]

Dr. Khalid

Ahmed Samatar speaks his mind and that's mindful, laakiinse I didn't anticipate Somaliweyn would happen, dream of Somaliweyn is too early to dream of.......

Yes Ahmed Samatar speaks his mind he and his brother speak their mind they got the confidence from their reer abti

Rightwing the only way A Somaliweyn ever can exist is like the EU model every country its own national identity and country while sharing perhaps a common currency Belgium and Netherlands are two different country but both members of the EU u can travel with you're EU documents any where to Europe. Something like that will benefit us all but Somaliland and Somalia and Djibouti sharing one government one flag and nation is out of the question will never happen.

Walo should understand that and smell the caffe saw ma aha? btw. Aabdi Samatar waa cuqdad filled hate monger man siday ila tahay.

[Khalid Ali]

Abdi samatar is indeed kind a hardliner he talks about thinks that are unfeasible like make Hargeysa the capital of Somaliland and Somalia crazy talk one cant move the capital of one country to another country you should listen to this. Gaalku sidu u qeexeyo eeg jawaabta


listen from 1:15

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[original dervish]

somaliland will continue to be politically isolated for decades. eventually they will become a de facto ethiopian province uniting with gashaamo

[Khalid Ali]

somaliland will continue to be politically isolated for decades. eventually they will become a de facto ethiopian province uniting with gashaamo

So much for being i am a Somali Nationalist hoping Somaliland to be part of the Dirty Xabash never ever Somaliland is where we waged a war against the Abyssinians in the 15 century.

[Cirwaaq]

An independent Somaliland could potentially be the place of Rebirth for true Somaliweyn and A.Samatar sees that. Somaliweyn serves no purpose if the peolpe are divided and these divisions are used as gateways by the enemies of the somali people.

Protecting the existance of the founding 5 somali states is muqadis for the preservation of Somaliweyn even if only in principle.

Independence of Djbouti makes it impossible to violate their statehood, their territorial waters, their airspace, their people, their land, dignity, integrity, etc over the same period that the populations of the Republic of somalia faced total violation.

Only with an independent Somaliland will there ever be a possibility of a HiilQaran Office in Hargeysa.

I foresee that happening regardless of the emotional kneejerk reactions people might experience with current status.

[Eaglehawk]

An independent Somaliland could potentially be the place of Rebirth for true Somaliweyn and A.Samatar sees that. Somaliweyn serves no purpose if the peolpe are divided and these divisions are used as gateways by the enemies of the somali people.

Protecting the existance of the founding 5 somali states is muqadis for the preservation of Somaliweyn even if only in principle.

Independence of Djbouti makes it impossible to violate their statehood, their territorial waters, their airspace, their people, their land, dignity, integrity, etc over the same period that the populations of the Republic of somalia faced total violation.

Only with an independent Somaliland will there ever be a possibility of a HiilQaran Office in Hargeysa.

I foresee that happening regardless of the emotional kneejerk reactions people might experience with current status.

Pro are stuck in the somaliwayn era, war everybody is seeking their own republic, stop hiding behind somaliwayn

[original dervish]

khalid, that is where somaliland is heading.

[Mondey]

An independent Somaliland could potentially be the place of Rebirth for true Somaliweyn and A.Samatar sees that. Somaliweyn serves no purpose if the peolpe are divided and these divisions are used as gateways by the enemies of the somali people.

Protecting the existance of the founding 5 somali states is muqadis for the preservation of Somaliweyn even if only in principle.

Independence of Djbouti makes it impossible to violate their statehood, their territorial waters, their airspace, their people, their land, dignity, integrity, etc over the same period that the populations of the Republic of somalia faced total violation.

Only with an independent Somaliland will there ever be a possibility of a HiilQaran Office in Hargeysa.

I foresee that happening regardless of the emotional kneejerk reactions people might experience with current status.

how can you even say an independent somailland is the way for somaliwayne ?!
Somaliweyn is beneficial for everyone and can satisfy all.. but some somalis want beyond that, they want more and more powers.
by the way the professor is wrong here,, he should have not opposed any pro unity northern province he should have welcomed them... he should only oppose if there was some provinces that want to further secede from SL to form a new breakaway country and leave Somalia and SL too thats where he should refuse it..

[Saraxnow]

An independent Somaliland could potentially be the place of Rebirth for true Somaliweyn and A.Samatar sees that. Somaliweyn serves no purpose if the peolpe are divided and these divisions are used as gateways by the enemies of the somali people.

Protecting the existance of the founding 5 somali states is muqadis for the preservation of Somaliweyn even if only in principle.

Independence of Djbouti makes it impossible to violate their statehood, their territorial waters, their airspace, their people, their land, dignity, integrity, etc over the same period that the populations of the Republic of somalia faced total violation.

Only with an independent Somaliland will there ever be a possibility of a HiilQaran Office in Hargeysa.

I foresee that happening regardless of the emotional kneejerk reactions people might experience with current status.

how can you even say an independent somailland is the way for somaliwayne ?!
Somaliweyn is beneficial for everyone and can satisfy all.. but some somalis want beyond that, they want more and more powers.
by the way the professor is wrong here,, he should have not opposed any pro unity northern province he should have welcomed them... he should only oppose if there was some provinces that want to further secede from SL to form a new breakaway country and leave Somalia and SL too thats where he should refuse it..

What does pro-unity mean when you're seceding from other Somalis? Union and unity is what a lot of you folks like to use, but how is the blue flag uniting Somalis?..Somalia is not Somaliweyn,it doesn't mean unity.

Of course Axmed Samatar opposes single sub-clan states,like ''awdal state'' and ''khatuumo state'' because they are backward and have nothing to do with the type of unity that he wants.

[NewHargeisaGirl]

Khadja Ali
Keeep our name out of your stinking mouth you ol' bastard

[Cirwaaq]

An independent Somaliland could potentially be the place of Rebirth for true Somaliweyn and A.Samatar sees that. Somaliweyn serves no purpose if the peolpe are divided and these divisions are used as gateways by the enemies of the somali people.

Protecting the existance of the founding 5 somali states is muqadis for the preservation of Somaliweyn even if only in principle.

Independence of Djbouti makes it impossible to violate their statehood, their territorial waters, their airspace, their people, their land, dignity, integrity, etc over the same period that the populations of the Republic of somalia faced total violation.

Only with an independent Somaliland will there ever be a possibility of a HiilQaran Office in Hargeysa.

I foresee that happening regardless of the emotional kneejerk reactions people might experience with current status.

how can you even say an independent somailland is the way for somaliwayne ?!
Somaliweyn is beneficial for everyone and can satisfy all.. but some somalis want beyond that, they want more and more powers.
by the way the professor is wrong here,, he should have not opposed any pro unity northern province he should have welcomed them... he should only oppose if there was some provinces that want to further secede from SL to form a new breakaway country and leave Somalia and SL too thats where he should refuse it..

In my view:

1. The people of somaliland were the Catalyst in the creation of somaliweyn
2. They sacrificed most for somaliweyn in the initiation years of somaliweyn
3. The 5 parts that makeup somaliweyn are all totally out of phase with each other politically


Somalilands blind leap into the union to create somaliweyn and their sacrifices should not be rewarded with hate or contempt. Those who love to build and grow a lasting relationship between somali people of the 5 states should be sensitive to the different needs of the 5 states.

Somaliland sold itself short in the marriage with somali and if the reason they made those sacrifices are not feasible at present let us at least preserve the possibility of better future relations.

Current generation has only one responsibility and that is build the foundation necessary for future generations to make SOAMLIWEYN a viable reality.

-Peace
-Trust
-Justice
-Fairness
-Honesty
-Integrity

There is more at stake then some stupid little union that has destroyed 2 Viable states.

[Somalistan]

BRAVO CIRWAAQ!

[Mondey]

Cirwaaq you view things from a totally wrong angle.. SL today is NOT 1960 SL, back then it had the privilege of being 1-united 2-independent nation, today it is a divided breakaway state (so far at least one province is no longer in the equation)... they no longer have that advantage to apply or work for what u call preserving a better future relations remember we are still one state, what are you saying can only work for the search for Djibouti and the remaining 2 states, you cannot equate SL to them.
alot of ppl sacrificed for the union and many more suffered not only one particular region... different ppl reacted differently, many things were at stake 21 years ago and the decisions made back then defined our present, we have experienced everything within that period.. today nothing is at stake!
What Somalilanders need to do is sit back on the table and say what exactly is it they complain from? a gone regime/leader? power sharing? injustice? i believe whatever injustices or discrimination are there it should be corrected and everyone gets their rights. And they seem to be on the right path since they have just made a committee to carry on the talks with tfg.

[Cirwaaq]

Cirwaaq you view things from a totally wrong angle.. SL today is NOT 1960 SL, back then it had the privilege of being 1-united 2-independent nation, today it is a divided breakaway state (so far at least one province is no longer in the equation)... they no longer have that advantage to apply or work for what u call preserving a better future relations remember we are still one state, what are you saying can only work for the search for Djibouti and the remaining 2 states, you cannot equate SL to them.
alot of ppl sacrificed for the union and many more suffered not only one particular region... different ppl reacted differently, many things were at stake 21 years ago and the decisions made back then defined our present, we have experienced everything within that period.. today nothing is at stake!
What Somalilanders need to do is sit back on the table and say what exactly is it they complain from? a gone regime/leader? power sharing? injustice? i believe whatever injustices or discrimination are there it should be corrected and everyone gets their rights. And they seem to be on the right path since they have just made a committee to carry on the talks with tfg.

All the actions towards somaliland by a Central government based in Moqadishu since the 1960's union have been baised and unfair. Djbouti and the other two states even if all three were independent WOULD not join with neither somalia nor somaliland simply based on the examples set by their 1960ies union.

The 1960ies Union has become a cancer for Somalihood it has to be cured, irradiated, burned to the ground in order to remove the indignation associated with it.

In order to revive Somaliland's believe in Somaliweyn a sacrifice is needed to once again gain their trust in Somalinimo. Independence is merely political. Geographically there is no change, Ethnically, Culturally, spiritually, etc the Somalis will always be united.

We simply lack 1 form of unity out of a multitude.

Give Somaliland the opportunity to once again become an advocate of somaliweyn instead of fearing their temperary departure from an ill concieved and premature union. Since 1960 the two states that united have held the remainder of the somalis hostage, it is their union that continues to breed further mistrust.

Sacrifice the failed union of 2 to give way to a potential union of 5. Half a century is long enough of a failure for us to explore alternate paths to our end goal.