Egypt Court Sentences 528 Morsi Supporters To Death

[Basra-]

Its very interesting to see gurey25 feeling sad and demoralized at seeing how his fellow brothers in a debacle and then blaming on the west.

its pity really, i pity those damn fools.
I share very little ideologically with them, i am a traditionalist while they are modernists in the islamic context.
They think they are assimilating modern ideas to better fight the west, i see them infected with western alien ideas.

gurey25@looooooooooooooooooooooool


Gurey indeed you are a traditionalist. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It is True Egyptians and any other none western white-- purporting to pretend to be a modernist live in an illusion state of mind. By our religion alone, we are anti modernists. Islam is old, traditional and very strict. But that don't mean u cant be a modernist at the same time. Just follow the core pillar of your diinta and u will be fine. Allaah swt endorses kindness and compassion above all. Actually, Alaah swt endorses his worshiping more than all. Kindness and compassion comes second.


gurey25, I am sorry u feel demoralized. I cant help but enjoy your willful misery, whist i sit here, enjoying unabated bowl of pop corn.



Thug aka Xplaya qanis


Los angeles looting was done by adoon. I don't consider African americans as part of the 'west'. They just live in the zoo of a west society, enjoying all the perks that comes with it.

[Basra-]

Its very interesting to see gurey25 feeling sad and demoralized at seeing how his fellow brothers in a debacle and then blaming on the west.


It is a fact that democracy is not for everybody. A savage people need a savage leader. It is as simple as that. LOOK AT WHAT Putin is doing now, I mean-- I don't agree with the imbecile, but he does get what he wants. WE don't see people protesting on the streets. WE DONT SEE looting and craziness. SURE the memorandum was all false and pro putin, but that's what it take to control idiots. DEMOCRACY is a sophisticated and highly refined concept for a sophisticated people like the Americans and the ENGLISH. (the Germans, the French, basically west of Europe-)


The Arabs, the eastern Europe, --most definitely the Africans, DEMOCRACY is not for them. Look at Siyaad Baare-- we all agree He was NOT a democratic president. He ruled the nation by actively defending his throne. Medieval style. He killed rivals, killed Sheikhs and made various qabils eliminate each other thereby reducing the number of his potential enemies. Such drastic measures are necessary. It is not a miracle Baare ruled for more that 30 years. It was pure dictatorship that needs to be respected for what it is. It was the right leadership for the right people. Baare united Somalis under his gripping iron rule of Somali haa noolaato. One united Somalia. Putin will do the same, today Crimea, tomorrow the entire Ukrain, and so forth and so forth.

Let the West and The east be separated by pure, nuanced and unadulterated codes of civilization. One Is sophisticated, refined and way beyond advanced in Human form, and the others, savages, actively re-enacting medieval times of ignorance is bliss.

MAY "I" Respectfully declare Basra is an immensely amazing politic pundit and a great writer. The paragraph quote above is striking in its depth of analysis and eloquence. I am stupefied, wondrously in awe of this talent that I call Basra!

[James Dahl]

This is a travesty, the ikhwaan have the right to protest peacefully. Egypt going back to the Mubarak days :/

The ikhwaan government under Morsi made a lot of mistakes and oppressed their opponents too, but nothing like this. Ikhwaan should have allied with the liberals and the the youth when they had the chance, instead of siding with the military and the old establishment against them, the very people who would later turn on them.

[gurey25]

This is a travesty, the ikhwaan have the right to protest peacefully. Egypt going back to the Mubarak days :/

The ikhwaan government under Morsi made a lot of mistakes and oppressed their opponents too, but nothing like this. Ikhwaan should have allied with the liberals and the the youth when they had the chance, instead of siding with the military and the old establishment against them, the very people who would later turn on them.

What i find incredulous is that they did this the second time!!!
WTF is wrong with these people how can you be that stupid?

In 1952 they sides with the millitary against the liberals and the youth were rewarded with a brief share of power and then they were massacred and imprisoned by the thousands when Gamal abdel nasser that bumbling fool launched his counter coup.

[Tanker]

22 million egyptians signed a paper demanding the muslim brotherhood to leave the power the people has spoken!

[gurey25]

gurey25, I am sorry u feel demoralized. I cant help but enjoy your willful misery, whist i sit here, enjoying unabated bowl of pop corn.

basra this is not the time to enjoy peoples suffering, they may be fools but they are still human beings .
I for one am surprised by the events, i assumed that the Muslim brotherhood because of their history and ideology were the perfect choice for the powers that be.
They would have made better servants than the military as they would have better controlled the muslim masses .
The millitary is ideologically compatible with the powers that be and would ultimatley take their place and serve their masters but they have traditionally been naughty with all the patriotism and such.
Their brutality would also be messy and lead to allot of disruption and chaos.
Chaos would birth unpredictable factors like a smarter more enlightened muslim movement.

It is refreshing to see the "powers that be" make such glaring strategic errors like allowing their Saudi and Gulf minnions to sponsor this coup in the first place.

[abdikarim86]

This is a travesty, the ikhwaan have the right to protest peacefully. Egypt going back to the Mubarak days :/

The ikhwaan government under Morsi made a lot of mistakes and oppressed their opponents too, but nothing like this. Ikhwaan should have allied with the liberals and the the youth when they had the chance, instead of siding with the military and the old establishment against them, the very people who would later turn on them.

What i find incredulous is that they did this the second time!!!
WTF is wrong with these people how can you be that stupid?

In 1952 they sides with the millitary against the liberals and the youth were rewarded with a brief share of power and then they were massacred and imprisoned by the thousands when Gamal abdel nasser that bumbling fool launched his counter coup.

The Ikhwaans are modernists no? Much like the Salafi and
other balaayo.

This may seem harsh but maybe it's a good thing they never see power, I think
if their ilk took power it would set back the coming back
of traditional Islam a century or so. Do you reckon this is a valid statement?

(Btw I'm not in favour of sentencing them to death)

[gurey25]

The salafis( certain groups) are a greater danger to Islam than the brotherhood.
If given a chance they would convert entire countries into thier sect by force like the Safavis converted Iran which was one of the most sunni regions into shia.
The salafis are on an all out war with Traditional Islam, while a significant part of the brotherhood contain traditional muslims.
The difference is that they have assimilated too much western ideology into their way of thinking.

[abdikarim86]

The salafis( certain groups) are a greater danger to Islam than the brotherhood.
The salafis are on an all out war with Traditional Islam, while a significant part of the brotherhood contain traditional muslims.
The difference is that they have assimilated too much western ideology into their way of thinking.

At least with the Salafis it is glaringly obvious they are antiethical to traditional Islam.
And any thinking person can see they are a danger to the survival of our Religion.

However The Ikhwaanis are much more acceptable to people, therefore
there is the danger their is a greater danger of their ideas becoming normal
over time.

[Tanker]

Egypt needs the values of Father Nasser the Father of Egypt and and the Arab Race.

[gurey25]

The salafis( certain groups) are a greater danger to Islam than the brotherhood.
The salafis are on an all out war with Traditional Islam, while a significant part of the brotherhood contain traditional muslims.
The difference is that they have assimilated too much western ideology into their way of thinking.

At least with the Salafis it is glaringly obvious they are antiethical to traditional Islam.
And any thinking person can see they are a danger to the survival of our Religion.

However The Ikhwaanis are much more acceptable to people, therefore
there is the danger their is a greater danger of their ideas becoming normal
over time.

their ideas are already normal, the muslim culema are dominated by modernists and salafists.
traditionalists are a quite minority.
what you are afraid of has already happened.

[abdikarim86]

The salafis( certain groups) are a greater danger to Islam than the brotherhood.
The salafis are on an all out war with Traditional Islam, while a significant part of the brotherhood contain traditional muslims.
The difference is that they have assimilated too much western ideology into their way of thinking.

At least with the Salafis it is glaringly obvious they are antiethical to traditional Islam.
And any thinking person can see they are a danger to the survival of our Religion.

However The Ikhwaanis are much more acceptable to people, therefore
there is the danger their is a greater danger of their ideas becoming normal
over time.

their ideas are already normal, the muslim culema are dominated by modernists and salafists.
traditionalists are a quite minority.
what you are afraid of has already happened.

Don't I know it ....I was being convinced the other day
Ashcari Theology is heretical.

I am aware those who are in favour of tradition
are very much in the minority.

I was more concerned about the fact that were
traditional Sunni Islam to flourish again in the future
its return would be more impeded by Ikhwaani ideas than
Salaafi, for I believe the Salaafi errors are much more obvious.

[Gabre]

What the heck is "Traditional Islam"?

[gurey25]

I was more concerned about the fact that were
traditional Sunni Islam to flourish again in the future
its return would be more impeded by Ikhwaani ideas than
Salaafi, for I believe the Salaafi errors are much more obvious.

The issue with the brotherhood is not theology but ideology they were founded by men who admired the west and
used the western methods of organizing a mass movement and assimilated allot more western thinking ata a time when the rest of the muslim world was either volunteer westernizing or were forced into it,.
The majority of ikhwan are ashcari, alazhar itself is still nearly completely ashcari.

The salafis are at war with traditional caqeedas of Ashcari and maturidi and even athari.

[gurey25]

What the heck is "Traditional Islam"?

Theology of the three schools Ashcari, Maturidi and athari
and following one of the 4 madhabs and having a deep respect for all madhabs.
and offcourse the practice of ihsan or tassawuf or at least the acceptance and respect for the practice.