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Excellent thread :up:

Education, education, education. I am not talking about education that leads to a degree. Vocational training.

Basic education.

Educate women in particular. They are the backbone of development.

Family planing should also considered to empower women.


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Promote/support/induce agriculture. There is no need in eating pasta and rice, when you can eat maize, sorghum and millet. The USA, Europe wouldn't have developed without self sufficiency in food. Mechanize agriculture. We still use primitive methods , our hands. Use livestock.

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Create mechanisms of tax collection and a tax regime. The people should know where the collected taxes end.

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get rid of the political entrepreneurs who prey on the tax dollars.


Create and facilitate foreign direct investment; there are hundreds of thousands of somalis, in the diaspora and elswehere, who could be encouraged to invest there. Capital rich somalis.
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LiquidHYDROGEN wrote:^^^Hoobariiska - western education doesn't buy common sense and intellect. My father always used to say "dad badan oo ka baxay Harvard iyo Oxford ayaa dadkooda caanteyn u tarin".

Right-wing, Rail is cheaper than roads. If it is true and SL's annual budget is around 300 million USD then 10-20 million is enough to set up a steel plant or two. Energy can come from solar and wind which would cost another 10 million USD to set up.
Do you know how much an oil rig costs? Decommissioned/cheaper ones's are 10 million USD or cheaper. Let's say the exploration and expertise cost a few more million, say 5 Million USD. The profit's would also help pay for refiniries in the future. Now the steel needs to be turned into rail, ground needs to be broken and tracks need to be laid. Let's say that cost's 40 million USD; 10 million USD to form rail, 10 million USD to buy wood from Ethiopia and 10 million for the workers and 10 million USD to for stone quarrying and breaking it down into gravel.

How much is that altogether so far? 75-85 million USD out of SL's alleged 300 million USD budget. That is less 25% of SL's annual budget and I have already provided a reliable energy source, pumped oil without any foreign corporation or middle-man and have funded the build of rail all along the country which means cheaper travel costs and more business which = more money into the economy.

Of course this is all not including the billions of dollars the SL government would get from sorting out the exchange issue and also setting up/using public credit, taxing business and increasing tarriffs in Berbera port. I can assure non of that is hard or profound. Somalis, especially SLanders do not have what every other ssuccessful nation on earth has - initiative, ambition and ingenuity.
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Lets wholeheartedly fight corruption , instead of just yelling when its being done by someone else other than
your Qabiil's demagogs .
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:clap: Do u see how productive yall are when you lay qaadka.
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hargaysaay wrote:Lets wholeheartedly fight corruption , instead of just yelling when its being done by someone else other than
your Qabiil's demagogs .
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AwRastaale wrote: I believe we need to look at the whole water cycle and diversify sources. Before we tap into the underground reservoirs, we should restore some of the surface water and ecosystem.

If Ethiopia is willing to sell its vast water sources at a decent rate, I don't see the issue. You can keep your caano geel, and still drink the neighbour's cow milk.

The more we reserve and store, the better.

The underground solution is no cheaper.

I know some of the brothers want to rush into the pantry and empty it but the soil is crying for a break.

My method is for us to first flood/infiltrate our soil (in liman irrigation method) with water from Ethiopia's hinterland...this allows us to restore water table, restore ecosystem and bring about natural bio-filters.

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The runoff water is slowed down by a dam, thus flooding a small area and allowing the water to infiltrate into the soil. This way, a small groves of trees can be sustained in the desert.

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bio-filters or natural purifications and just letting the soil soak up rather than just taking it away again and again from already depleting underground water beyond 600m.

That's my method anyways and I understand many of our people just like to use what they know or go where they know and just re-take the same steps and be in the same ordeal.

I believe import some, let some soil recover, let some trees re-grow, let few clouds return, let few birds re-nest...embrace the floods. Overall we should consider all options and explore all means to give our people better future not just what they consume today but into the long distance future.
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gurey25 wrote:not needed.
why?
because 90% of the rains we get are either lost through evaporation , very little of it ends up in the aquifiers and for our use.
Rainwater harvesting techniques like check dams, and sand dams will in as little as a decade recharge the water table to how it was 50 years ago.

its been in done in arid regions with conditions like somaliland.

no need for massive water pipes that will cost billions.
we do not even need electricity from ethiopia, our wind potential alone is greater than what we can buy from ethiopia.

with proper management we can turn our deserts back into productive grasslands,
and turn our grassland into superior grassland that can hold more animals.

imagine multiplying the number of sheep and cattle by 5 times while improving the land in the same place.

it's all been proven to work all over the world.

Alan Savory's holistic management which is planned mob grazing, and keyline management from australia.
combine that with a large number of check dams and sand dams and link them with pipelines to the keylines and you will get amazing results.
even better using swales along with keylines will be better for somalia, imagaine all those flash floods captured and stored in the soil.

imagine what all that water and animal manure and grass cover will do to the land, within 10 years you can turn good grass land into excellent farmland for grains.
right now we have ~45,000 hectares in the gabiley- hargeisa region, and another 15,000 around
no more than 60,000 good grains growing land in Somaliland.
Imagine what we could do with 600,000 hectares ? or 1.2 million?
we would be exporting food..
and livetsock 5 times the number we have now.
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theyuusuf143 wrote:Hawdian theory is crazy. Why do we need water from ethiopia when we have enough water in every Region. We just need to dig more walls and dams next couple of years.
digging is not the answer we are already digging like crazy. all that well water will run out sooner or later.
the answer is rainwater catchment.
all you need is fir 25mm of rain to fall and stay on the land for good grass and bush to grow.
in hargeisa and borame and ceergabo you get 500-600mm of rain. 350-500 in most of tog deer and even the driest part of the guban and the nugaal valley get 100 - 150 mm.
remember you need at least 25mm to stay on the land and sink in.
a half hearted somali style campaign can reduce drought conditions all over and make life bearable for allot of people.
a professional campaign with 15,000 -20,000 check dams and sand dams all over Somali will take 5 years to build cost around 200 million dollars and takes the labor of 50,000 unskilled manpower.
we have millions of unemployed.
in 20-30 years of rains you will get a veritable paradise
imagine the toghdeer abd waheen and many others flowing all year around!!.
sounds like fantasy but uts already happened in Rajasthan India in a region slightly drier than maroodijeex.
look up tge district of alwar in Rajasthan India .
all that I described happened between 1985 and 2015.
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