Somaliland Budget 2015
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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
As long as it's stead progress per year I am OK with it. I just don't want an excuse when some new government is formed and they say kuwii hore ayaa meeshaa baabiiyey and we are starting again. Anything else than 300 million next year is a failure
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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
$250mn is a lot compared to $50mn during Riyale era just few years ago. Silanyo has brought about change in many sectors. I did not like the old SL that was ixtiraaf obsessed and had more excuses than a pregnant lady
Silanyo government is not there yet but it has made important improvement and I applaud them for that. I see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Bigger isn't always better but we need to ensure the government spends the money wisely as well as helping people it should invest some of it back into institutions will give back by next year. It is all about putting few seeds in the ground and hoping by next year you have an apple or two to harvest.
We need to do more in Berbera in terms of port expansion, investing in skills (efficiency) and overall improving the city. There need to clean up old buildings, plant trees and improve the condition of the city in order to attract investors and more residency.
Berbera is our honeyhole and we need to appreciate Berbera. Giving some love back is must.
More residents means more taxation, more investment means more cut...just taxing the old boys twice or three times the amount compared to previous year is not going to do it.
Ras

Silanyo government is not there yet but it has made important improvement and I applaud them for that. I see the light at the end of the tunnel.
Bigger isn't always better but we need to ensure the government spends the money wisely as well as helping people it should invest some of it back into institutions will give back by next year. It is all about putting few seeds in the ground and hoping by next year you have an apple or two to harvest.
We need to do more in Berbera in terms of port expansion, investing in skills (efficiency) and overall improving the city. There need to clean up old buildings, plant trees and improve the condition of the city in order to attract investors and more residency.
Berbera is our honeyhole and we need to appreciate Berbera. Giving some love back is must.
More residents means more taxation, more investment means more cut...just taxing the old boys twice or three times the amount compared to previous year is not going to do it.
Ras
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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
Mashallah the country is doing so well that we are being humiliated abroad as well because of so many people trying to flee.
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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
Tahriib in SL is a choice there are just SL kids oo ku waashay west Yurub New york because of qurba joog iyo facebook. they dont have it poor they earn well have business pay close to 20.000 Dollars to human smugglers to get to Italy or Libya.
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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
Khalid,
You have to ignore the likes of L2H. He doesn't know anything but calacaal and he has no solutions nor suggestions. He just loves to read his own calacaal and be odd to everyone in every subject. Wa dadka ismoday inay yahin all know it, all have it and always right. Dadkas oo calay have psychological disorder.
Yes there are problems but Rome wasn't built in a day and slowly we need to address one issue after the other. While Silanyo has made small progress never the less he made changes and we congratulate him for that under his leadership.
We need to improve from where he is next. No calacaal.
Ras
You have to ignore the likes of L2H. He doesn't know anything but calacaal and he has no solutions nor suggestions. He just loves to read his own calacaal and be odd to everyone in every subject. Wa dadka ismoday inay yahin all know it, all have it and always right. Dadkas oo calay have psychological disorder.
Yes there are problems but Rome wasn't built in a day and slowly we need to address one issue after the other. While Silanyo has made small progress never the less he made changes and we congratulate him for that under his leadership.
We need to improve from where he is next. No calacaal.
Ras
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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
^^ wallahi this liquid waa yaab.. on one thread, he's like Somaliland is shit and posted pictures of new York and hongkong like this is what SL supposed to be like right now
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those nations took almost 50-100yrs to look like that, with 23yrs independence we are half way there... liquid needs some patience.

those nations took almost 50-100yrs to look like that, with 23yrs independence we are half way there... liquid needs some patience.
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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
Yes let's sweep actual problems under the rug whilst celebrating fairytale made up "progress".
23 years is a long time. It took countries like korea and Taiwan less than that to industrialize. It is 2014 and today SL still doesn't have a single qualified doctor and hospital. Mashallah progress
Hawdian you xabashi cumstain, don't address me.
23 years is a long time. It took countries like korea and Taiwan less than that to industrialize. It is 2014 and today SL still doesn't have a single qualified doctor and hospital. Mashallah progress

Hawdian you xabashi cumstain, don't address me.

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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
^^the same person who negotiated some sort of deal where SL troops should save walaweynes arses
Don't come running back to the pro SL camp when things start moving...
no one is denying things need to be done, bare in mindits only since siilanyo that things have progressed, we wasted almost 10yrs doing nothing with kaahin and those other years in keeping all the tribes together, and solving disputes.
things are going well and with small steps we'll get there.
Speaking about doctors I've seen plenty of new grduates....uought to visit SL cuz I think you're one of those qurbajoogs that receive news by mouth than actually physically going there.
Lejustice is there atm you should ask him about the country and progress.... Mr Know it all

Don't come running back to the pro SL camp when things start moving...
no one is denying things need to be done, bare in mindits only since siilanyo that things have progressed, we wasted almost 10yrs doing nothing with kaahin and those other years in keeping all the tribes together, and solving disputes.
things are going well and with small steps we'll get there.
Speaking about doctors I've seen plenty of new grduates....uought to visit SL cuz I think you're one of those qurbajoogs that receive news by mouth than actually physically going there.
Lejustice is there atm you should ask him about the country and progress.... Mr Know it all
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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
Hodan,
Our brother has some psychological disorder (where the Somali nurses when you need them). Wa dadka isla saxsan, isla weyn, ismoday inay iyagu yahin all know it and all solutions. Waxba mesha kuma hayo other than niic this niic that.
That's not how you put forth an argument. You state where things have gone wrong and you offer a way out. Lakin kani wa iska macaac foqol macaac. You know goats make those noises wax kale ma yaqanan.
Sxb this Habashi appreciates the work of adeer Silanyo who delivered a budget of $250mn from $50mn. More cash means more abilities for him to do more things for the people. I want him to have trillions but the $250mn is the first step.
KUDOS to Silanyo and Abdulaziz Samale.
The entire world has tahriib issues even New Zealand people come to Australia. Dutch of all colours go to UK. South Americans love invading the US. Some Canadians prefer life in the big Apple.
Our brother has some psychological disorder (where the Somali nurses when you need them). Wa dadka isla saxsan, isla weyn, ismoday inay iyagu yahin all know it and all solutions. Waxba mesha kuma hayo other than niic this niic that.
That's not how you put forth an argument. You state where things have gone wrong and you offer a way out. Lakin kani wa iska macaac foqol macaac. You know goats make those noises wax kale ma yaqanan.
Sxb this Habashi appreciates the work of adeer Silanyo who delivered a budget of $250mn from $50mn. More cash means more abilities for him to do more things for the people. I want him to have trillions but the $250mn is the first step.
KUDOS to Silanyo and Abdulaziz Samale.
The entire world has tahriib issues even New Zealand people come to Australia. Dutch of all colours go to UK. South Americans love invading the US. Some Canadians prefer life in the big Apple.
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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
Bla bla bla....

Habashian I know your game. Thank god you're just a lowly nobody with no influence.

Habashian I know your game. Thank god you're just a lowly nobody with no influence.
Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
Smh@blatant ignorance of liquid. This is why I have always suspected this guy of being faqash rat
Even young Hodan understands that although sl declared independence in 1991, it was still a place teeming with tribal warfare and armed militias. Almost 70 to 80% of Somaliland's people were s outside of the country living in refugee camps in neighboring countries. It wasn't until 1997 that full stability took root and people started to come back and start the work of rebuilding began. Also it was as recent as 2001 when sl started to have multi political parties. So in reality Somaliland really began to start significant steps at the start of century. We have gone through many growing Pains which has added to our maturation. The progress is bit slow but Somaliland is on track, right track that is. It is not being complacent or having low ambition when someone feels good about small progress, it is but keeping positive attitude and being optimistic about the future. It is a good way to feel good and do good. Having negative and setting unrealistic goals is sure way to miserable lifestyle, take heed liquid.
Even young Hodan understands that although sl declared independence in 1991, it was still a place teeming with tribal warfare and armed militias. Almost 70 to 80% of Somaliland's people were s outside of the country living in refugee camps in neighboring countries. It wasn't until 1997 that full stability took root and people started to come back and start the work of rebuilding began. Also it was as recent as 2001 when sl started to have multi political parties. So in reality Somaliland really began to start significant steps at the start of century. We have gone through many growing Pains which has added to our maturation. The progress is bit slow but Somaliland is on track, right track that is. It is not being complacent or having low ambition when someone feels good about small progress, it is but keeping positive attitude and being optimistic about the future. It is a good way to feel good and do good. Having negative and setting unrealistic goals is sure way to miserable lifestyle, take heed liquid.
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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
Progress isn't slow, it's non-existant. No doubt when old man Siilanyo leaves office, the next crook to enter office will blame everything on the previous admin and claim that progress will now start with his tenure. The gaalo have a saying, "the proof is in the pudding". I look around and all I see is a country of badows, from the president to the watchman. I see rampant corruption and nepotism. I see a country without healthcare or running water. I see a country where the youth are driven to desperation and either form gangs, flee the country or kill themselves. It's also very rich for you to paint this noble picture but none of you live back home. You all type from the comforts of qaxootinimo. I have two brothers who wok and live there and my family has recently visited the country. The picture they paint is very bleek and depressing. It's like a whole country where people are pretending to be a nation but aren't in reality - like when you used to play doctor or house in nursery. None of the stuff that actually symbolizes a nation like infrastructure and political/legal institutions exist. For gods sake, they can't even do a simple thing like stop littering and collectig rubbish! Millions of unemployed youth and they don't stop to think about cleaning their filthy streets.
I don't give two figs about democracy. Democracy doesn' build nations, you brain-dead african. It's just something you pretend doing to please your white masters. You have no concept of democracy or it's institutions. Everybody votes along clan-lines, there is no clear or demarcated line between each party nor do the candidates have any policies. Don't talk to me like a kid. As for me being faqash, it's clear that you are incapable of thinking for yourself unless it involves your subclan and that any deviation from the secession nonsense is seen as a blasphemy. Let me make it clear; I don't care what you think.
I don't give two figs about democracy. Democracy doesn' build nations, you brain-dead african. It's just something you pretend doing to please your white masters. You have no concept of democracy or it's institutions. Everybody votes along clan-lines, there is no clear or demarcated line between each party nor do the candidates have any policies. Don't talk to me like a kid. As for me being faqash, it's clear that you are incapable of thinking for yourself unless it involves your subclan and that any deviation from the secession nonsense is seen as a blasphemy. Let me make it clear; I don't care what you think.
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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
progress is slow and SL has a long way to go no one is denying but SL is not where it was 10 years ago. We need better leaders and a stronger understanding on how to build a stronger and viable economy for the country with the right vision and keep on trying we will get there. But SL is not to bad this thread is an improvement if we went from 50 million to 250 that an improvement it might be small and Siciid is right the habar habar wars were raging on from 1991 to end 1996. We started state building SL really started moving forward from Cigaals second term. Even Malaawians want to learn from us , the govt is really trying its best to bring change , and democracy is the way forward SNM fought against dictatorship we will never allow a dictator to rule over SL. 2 terms for a leader of SL markaas walugu duceynaya we will pick another leader.
SUCCESSFUL ZERO-AID MALAWI BUDGET REQUIRES SHARED SACRIFICE
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Created on Wednesday, 10 September 2014 12:30 Written by JIMMY KAINJA
Finance Minister Goodal Gondwe
Finance Minister Goodal Gondwe
“You never know how strong you are, until being strong is your only choice.” ~ Bob Marley
It is no longer news that the 2014/15 national budget will not be subsidised by donors who contributes up to 40 per cent of the total budget. The donor pullout meant that Malawi government needed alternative ways of covering the deficit; we now know that Malawi has settled for what it calls ‘zero-aid’ budget, with a deficit of MK107 billion. It is not clear at the moment where this deficit will come from.Malawi Congress Party (MCP) registered their fears that the ‘zero-aid’ budget could yet be a ploy by the Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) led government to avoid donor accountability. Cynicism is good; I think it should be encouraged but the budget statement indicates that the government is still trying to regain the donor confidence. This should go some way to arrest MCP fears.
Though valid and definitely in good faith, MCP’s observation grosses over the fundamental point on aid and repeats the infinite and a dangerous mistake of overlooking the role of taxpayers in holding their government to account. Grants and donations are intended for all citizens. Of course donors have a right to demand accountability for their resources but citizens, Malawians in this case, in whose name donations are made, must take lead. Part of the logic of aid sanctions is that when ordinary citizens, the ultimate beneficiaries, struggle to survive due to sanctions demand accountability and good service delivery from their government.
Like most local commentators have noted, MCP should be demanding fiscal discipline, not worrying about donor accountability. The budget title: “restoration of fiscal discipline as a foundation for poverty reduction,” clearly shows that Goodall Gondwe, the Finance Minister, is fully aware about the importance of fiscal discipline.
MCP spokesperson on finance, Joseph Jobvuyalema, was recently quoted by The Nation newspaper saying: “yes, donors are on our neck, but we should also look at the capacity of the country to generate enough revenue to meet all obligations. Otherwise, this might be a tool to punish Malawians.” I believe every country has enough resources for survival of its people, if managed properly and fairly distributed. Political will and whether all Malawians, ‘large and small’, are prepared to make necessary adjustments is the big question.
The unrecognised state of Somaliland has thrived without any donor support since its secession from Somalia in 1991. Donors cannot give aid to unrecognised state. What would stop Malawi financing its entire annual budget more so that other crucial sectors such as health are heavily donor funded? With its mentality, it is difficult to see Malawi embarking on a path to economic independence. Cases such as the current aid freeze may be heavy on the country and its people but may be necessary for Malawi to start looking at ways of financing itself.
Look. Somaliland is solely dependent on local tax revenue. According to a Stanford University researcher, Nicholas Eubank, cited by The Economist, citizens in Somaliland use their tax revenue as leverage to make their government more accountable, representative and transparent – making it more democratic one would argue. Meanwhile, in Malawi the main opposition party is more worried about donor accountability.
As Eubank observed, Somaliland’s case cannot always successfully be applied elsewhere and I am not advocating that Malawi adopt anything on a wholesale from Somaliland, or any other country. But Somaliland’s is an inspiring story and a timely one for Malawi. Somaliland has shown that citizens must make the destiny of their country their responsibility. Citizens must demand accountability and transparency from their representatives and government must work for the interest of its people.
Donors are withholding budgetary support due to cashgate revelations and failure, largely by the previous administration to tackle it head on. Yet, Cashgate involved a lot of people, civil servants, private contractors, commercial banks and politicians over a number of years. Yet, there were no whistleblowers.
There is a sickening culture in this country that allowed cashgate to happen: Malawians do not take responsibility for their own country. Malawians worry more about petty partisan politics than serious matters of national interest. ‘Cashgaters’ basking in opulence of unexplained wealth have become role models and envy of the town.
It is not surprising that donors are more dismayed and angry about cashgate than Malawians. It is not surprising that Joyce Banda’s administration made the results of forensic audit on cashgate only available to donors, not Malawi taxpayers. They say every government is as good as its people. I am sure most Malawians would disassociate themselves from this mediocre. Yet, they will not take stance against because they want to protect their own interests.
In his budget statement, Goodall Gondwe said: “… I invite everyone of us to ask how we can help Malawi to pass through this turbulent terrain smoothly and safely. I have no doubt Mr, Speaker, Sir, that if we took this stance, we will achieve fiscal normality within the financial year.” Of course Goodall and his ilk need everyone’s sympathy at the moment but they will be different animals when aid is flowing in.
But my question is: are the so-called middle class Malawians and the government itself prepared to sacrifice few luxuries for the same sake of common good? What of greedy ministers and MPs demanding obscene pay increase and unjustifiable loan facilities? Will ordinary Malawians put their petty partisan politics aside and demand accountability, more equitable distribution of resources and improved service delivery?
Surely, if all Malawians were prepared to work for the common good, Anti-Corruption Bureau (ACB) would not need the lion’s share of the 2014/15 budget for fighting graft. As it is, that allocation can somehow be justified because the consensus is that ACB need to protect us from ourselves.
Jimmy Kainja is a Malawian academic, news media & communications ,Blogger ,Columnist , politica analyst Patriot ,Interested in political & social changes. He tweets @jkainja and can be contacted here
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Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
Siciid85 is absulutely right, i know nothing about hargeisa but i remember in 1998 all burao buildings had no safely standing walls let roofs.
1991-1996= civil war
1997-2002= governing system building
2003-2010= recognition campaign
2010-present= developments
Rayaale government searched ictiraaf than any other government before and after them. silaanyo government does not care more about ictiraaf but they are doing lots of development projects. Somalilanders should fill the role of ictiraaf searching as the government is not reliable when it comes ictiraaf searching.
1991-1996= civil war
1997-2002= governing system building
2003-2010= recognition campaign
2010-present= developments
Rayaale government searched ictiraaf than any other government before and after them. silaanyo government does not care more about ictiraaf but they are doing lots of development projects. Somalilanders should fill the role of ictiraaf searching as the government is not reliable when it comes ictiraaf searching.
Re: Somaliland Budget 2015
Liquid you have not said anything new that we haven't been accustomed to from you. Since you seem to have all the answers why don't you get off your butt and do an actual work on the ground and see if you can do any better. Anyone can sit on their hands and pinpoint flaws. Rag wuxuu isku dhaafay waa wax qabad, hadal haamo ma buuxsho
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