Real Unionists (not fake tribalists) come in!!

[gurey25]

this is where the thread is derailed and why somaliweynist like me are wasting their time.
extreme qabyalad and hatred leads people liken ximanjaale to have delusions, confuse desire with reality..
fake unionists like ximanjaale are the biggest threats to somali people ever regaining their pride.

[XimanJaale]

this is where the thread is derailed and why somaliweynist like me are wasting their time.
extreme qabyalad and hatred leads people liken ximanjaale to have delusions, confuse desire with reality..

Because I said Somaliland is under full control of Ethiopia makes me a tribalist. Sorry to burst your bubble but I'm speaking the reality. You are delusional to thing Somaliland is a free territory.

[Khalid Ali]

Why Ethiopia wants to devide Somalia? Why ethiopia wants a weak somali government in place? The answer is that Ethiopia has a fear that Strong somalia will claim Ogaden. Kenaya got also the same fear. We somalis need to live peacefully with the neighboring countries. We should end the Pan-Somalism idealogy. We should revise our consitituion and re difine who is Somali citizen? Currently we are claiming that even ethnic somalis in neighboring countries are somali citizens? Let somali citizens be Somalis in Somali republic only including northern regions and excluding from the ethnic somalis in Kenya, Ethiopa and Djibout ( Unless they take somali citizen through naturalisation Process) lets be modern country that reconizes international borders and respects the other countries.

In this current provisional constitution this has been changed.

Also why the fuck should pan-Somalism ideology be put to an end? pan-Somalism doesn't necessarily mean that all the Somali regions will join together. Ethiopia has a number of reasons why they fear a strong Somalia and the Ogaden region is a small factor.

Main reasons:

Geo-political= They fear that Somalia will takeover the sub-continental or even continental leadership
Economy= They fear that Somalia will be a economic superpower
Military= They fear that Somalia can divide Ethiopia through their military might.

Ethiopia is a ethnic diverse country and their leaders fear that the country will break into pieces if Somalia becomes strong. A strong Somalia means a stronger Somali region of Ethiopia.

Imagine if the Somali region of Ethiopia becomes the most wealthiest part of Ethiopia, that means Somalis will dominate Ethiopia and even takeover the leadership of the whole country! Somalia will give money, development and political power to the Somali region. The Somali region of Ethiopia doesn't necessarily need to secede to become powerful they can take over the whole of Ethiopia!!! Same goes for NFD!!! Basically Kenya, Ethiopia and Djibouti will be Somali dominated countries!!!!

Ethnic diversity does not necessarily mean division Ethiopia had strong monarchistic institutions and past which glues Ethiopian ethnic groups together ,and Ethiopian nationalism is 100 times stronger than ethno Somali nationalism. Ethiopia does not fear Somalia, it just wants to maintain the regional hegemonic power house in the region

[gurey25]

your dreams and desires born out of qabyalad and hatred is not reality..

come back to reality then we can talk ..

till then continue your nationalistic charade, your are a qabiilist through and through,
and not an ordinary qabiilist, all somalis are.
you are a virulent qabiilist driven by hatred, envy and god knows what emotion.

[XimanJaale]

Ethnic diversity does not necessarily mean division Ethiopia had strong monarchistic institutions and past which glues Ethiopian ethnic groups together ,and Ethiopian nationalism is 100 times stronger than ethno Somali nationalism. Ethiopia does not fear Somalia, it just wants to maintain the regional hegemonic power house in the region

Firstly Ethiopia is not a monarchy! Also if you look at Ethiopian news carefully you will notice there are many ethnic hostilities especially between other ethnic groups. There are also many secessionist movements in Ethiopia. The only reason why Ethiopia hasn't collapsed yet is because they have the western world breastfeeding it's regime with huge AID and military support.

There is no such thing as Ethio nationalism. and YES Ethiopia doesn't fear Somalia today, but they fear a strong and united Somalia in the future.

[Khalid Ali]

Tribal nationalist Walanweyn chauvinist when u mix those to u get Ximan jaale and his likes there are millions like him. Guray thats why Somalia and Somaliland will never coexist in this volatile and hostile region we call the horn of Africa.

[XimanJaale]

your dreams and desires born out of qabyalad and hatred is not reality..

come back to reality then we can talk ..

till then continue your nationalistic charade, your are a qabiilist through and through,
and not an ordinary qabiilist, all somalis are.
you are a virulent qabiilist driven by hatred, envy and god knows what emotion.

Tell me where I show resentment towards other Somalis. The only Somali group I show resentment towards are the Eydoors aka filthy Isaaq's because of their secessionist ideology thats all. I have no problem against any other Somali. My ambition is for a strong Somalia.

I'm a civic & state nationalist. Learn the difference you dumb idiot. I can be a racist or a tribalist and yet still want a superior and strong Somalia.

But you are nothing but a delusional coward and a hypocrite. You need to accept that Somaliland is not a free entity and 100% under the control of the Ethiopian regime. The Ethiopians themselves admitted they control and created Somaliland. What did the Ethiopian foreign minister say? If anybody touches Somaliland they will have us to face! Open your eyes you coward.

[XimanJaale]

Tribal nationalist Walanweyn chauvinist when u mix those to u get Ximan jaale and his likes there are millions like him. Guray thats why Somalia and Somaliland will never coexist in this volatile and hostile region we call the horn of Africa.

I'm a civic nationalist, go learn what it means. There are many types of nationalism. But afcourse a jaahil like you wouldn't know.

[Khalid Ali]

Ethnic diversity does not necessarily mean division Ethiopia had strong monarchistic institutions and past which glues Ethiopian ethnic groups together ,and Ethiopian nationalism is 100 times stronger than ethno Somali nationalism. Ethiopia does not fear Somalia, it just wants to maintain the regional hegemonic power house in the region

Firstly Ethiopia is not a monarchy! Also if you look at Ethiopian news carefully you will notice there are many ethnic hostilities especially between other ethnic groups. There are also many secessionist movements in Ethiopia. The only reason why Ethiopia hasn't collapsed yet is because they have the western world breastfeeding it's regime with huge AID and military support.

There is no such thing as Ethio nationalism. and YES Ethiopia doesn't fear Somalia today, but they fear a strong and united Somalia in the future.

Ethiopia is not a monarchy but it was up to 1974 and form 1884 to 1974 it had two strong Ethiopian Emperors who led the way to Ethiopian nationalism
All the separatist groups are but in name they have no control in Ethiopia. its not because of westerners its because Ethiopians are keeping their country united. Ethiopia still stands long after Mengistu was deposed. Where is the Former Somali republic That just shows you we are same language same religion mantra are no basis to unity and a modern unified republic. Its ideology history and togetherness of people that makes a country. hawiye and darood Somali speaking can never make a union and have the brotherly unity the Amhara and Oromo have.

[XimanJaale]

Ethiopia is not a monarchy but it was up to 1974 and form 1884 and 1974 it had two strong Ethiopian Emperors who led the way to Ethiopian nationalism
All the separatist groups are but in name they have no control in Ethiopia. its not because of westerners its because Ethiopians are keeping their country united. Ethiopia still stands long after Mengistu was deposed. Where is the Former Somali republic

Eydoors and their butt-licking for Ethiopia.

Open your eyes you dumb cunt. Ethiopia is in dire situation when it comes to ethnic hostilities against the Woyane state.

Ethiopia still stands long after Mengistue deposed because of the western support for the political stabilization, but also Ethiopia was busy in war against Eritrea diverting it's populations away from internal problems.

[XimanJaale]

hawiye and darood Somali speaking can never make a union and have the brotherly unity the Amhara and Oromo have.

Allow niin waxbo ogeyn ha caadabin.

Somalia had political breakthrough in the early 90's! However certain western countries and neighbouring countries were spoiling it including the UN!!! Somalia was bullied, divided and broken into pieces politically by strong foreign countries.

Listen to Maxamad Saciid Samatar condemning the UN and certain countries for spoiling the Somali peace process! Start from 0:58 !! Like Maxamed Gacaliye said these countries and UN organisation were treating Somalis under neo-colonisation, this is still happening today!!

[waraabe251]

Ethiopia is not a monarchy but it was up to 1974 and form 1884 and 1974 it had two strong Ethiopian Emperors who led the way to Ethiopian nationalism
All the separatist groups are but in name they have no control in Ethiopia. its not because of westerners its because Ethiopians are keeping their country united. Ethiopia still stands long after Mengistu was deposed. Where is the Former Somali republic

Eydoors and their butt-licking for Ethiopia.

Open your eyes you dumb cunt. Ethiopia is in dire situation when it comes to ethnic hostilities against the Woyane state.

Ethiopia still stands long after Mengistue deposed because of the western support for the political stabilization, but also Ethiopia was busy in war against Eritrea diverting it's populations away from internal problems.

flithy jebartiy boons and their constant calaacal. Stop talking about another country and tell us why your dirty skinny people are eating hyena meat in 2014. send us pic of your malnourished grandmother

[Khalid Ali]

Ximan xaare those are mere excuses Ethiopia won over Somalia it invaded Somalia conquered Somalia's capital it even put your uncle barre huuraale in prison beyond Humiliation. Ethiopia has fully humiliated not only Somalia but your Qabiil beyond imagination it slapped your president Cabdilahi Yusuf it locked up Barre hiiraale and forced darood to hand other daroods to them. There is no Qabiil that but licks Ethiopia more than you not that long ago it was Abdi cawaro gaas who said the Ogaden darood freedom fighters are terrorists equal to alshabaab Just to be a good Bitch and lets not forget when Meleze zenawi said to farmaajo Somali population is not more than 2 million and your god farmaajo sat like a little bitch with his 2 hands on his legs

[XimanJaale]

Ximan xaare those are mere excuses Ethiopia won over Somalia it invaded Somalia conquered Somalia's capital it even put your uncle barre huuraale in prison beyond Humiliation. Ethiopia has fully humiliated not only Somalia but your Qabiil beyond imagination it slapped your president Cabdilahi Yusuf it locked up Barre hiiraale and forced darood to hand other daroods to them. There is no Qabiil that but licks Ethiopia more than you not that long ago it was Abdi cawaro gaas who said the Ogaden darood freedom fighters are terrorists equal to alshabaab Just to be a good Bitch and lets not forget when Meleze zenawi said to farmaajo Somali population is not more than 2 million and your god farmaajo sat like a little bitch with his 2 hands on his legs

It slapped Cabdullahi Yusuf it shows that Cabdullahi Yusuf rejected Ethiopian order.

It jailed Barre Hiiraale it shows that Barre Hiiraale rejected Ethiopian order.

It invaded Somalia because Somalis from Konfuur showed resentment towards Ethiopia.

All you are doing is proving that we are not Ethiopian lacky's. And that the real Ethiopian lacky's are the eydoors and their Ethiopian project aka Somaliland aka SNM.

But qabil sentiment aside, there are many Ethiopian lacky's amongst Somalis for many different reason. And the biggest entity under the Ethiopian control is Somaliland. Somaliland is the number 1 leverage Ethiopia are using against the Somali state followed by Puntland.

[Khalid Ali]

Ximan xaare those are mere excuses Ethiopia won over Somalia it invaded Somalia conquered Somalia's capital it even put your uncle barre huuraale in prison beyond Humiliation. Ethiopia has fully humiliated not only Somalia but your Qabiil beyond imagination it slapped your president Cabdilahi Yusuf it locked up Barre hiiraale and forced darood to hand other daroods to them. There is no Qabiil that but licks Ethiopia more than you not that long ago it was Abdi cawaro gaas who said the Ogaden darood freedom fighters are terrorists equal to alshabaab Just to be a good Bitch and lets not forget when Meleze zenawi said to farmaajo Somali population is not more than 2 million and your god farmaajo sat like a little bitch with his 2 hands on his legs

It slapped Cabdullahi Yusuf it shows that Cabdullahi Yusuf rejected Ethiopian order.

It jailed Barre Hiiraale it shows that Barre Hiiraale rejected Ethiopian order.

It invaded Somalia because Somalis from Konfuur showed resentment towards Ethiopia.

All you are doing is proving that we are not Ethiopian lacky's. And that the real Ethiopian lacky's are the eydoors and their Ethiopian project aka Somaliland aka SNM.

But qabil sentiment aside, there are many Ethiopian lacky's amongst Somalis for many different reason. And the biggest entity under the Ethiopian control is Somaliland. Somaliland is the number 1 leverage Ethiopia are using against the Somali state followed by Puntland.

Ximan xaare why do you need to lie Cabdilahi Yusuf was oke with Ethiopian troops its like a slut that finds it oke to give head but gets all bitchy when she is told to swallow. barre huuraale to he accepted years Ethiopian arms and training Ethiopian protection , but he rejected the missionary position. You have not addressed darood puntland handing over darood ogaden to Ethiopia, why not wa nabar somaha wa wax aad u foolxun somaha handing your own brothers to tigres Darood have sold their ugly asses to Ethiopia even at the expense of other darods

it invaded Somalia because crazy Jihadists could not walk the walk making threats and than running away from the battlefield

We Somalilanders and Isaaq are two proud to arrogant will never allow any one else in our land or even mistreat our people in Ethiopia will fight hard back, you have seen how isaaq nomads whooped the asses of Liyuu police. Not a single isaaq is now and days touched by those militia

Meanwhile there are thousands of Ethiopian troops inside Somalia u have not rejected their stay but celebrated godanes death the one and only Somali iidoor who was fighting them hypocrisy to say the least Now go hide in your Amisom bunkers with Ethiopian protection