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Re: how djibouti-ethiopia integration will influence the res

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Was dude pasting his history lesson from ethiopian forum? :mrgreen:
He is a regular on that site. :lol:
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The President of Djibouti has never been Somali centric or Dir Centric maybe Ciise centric so i doubt he cares what is going on Southern Somalia or about the disputes between the Hawiyas and the Dirs in Hiiraan lowershabelle or the one in Jamaame.

Djibouti is not under threat of Ethiopia , but its being threatened by Eritrea , Djibouti Yemen and Ethiopia and Sudan have excellent relations to strangle Eritrea the Sana Axis. Ethiopia uses Djibouti port services and Ethiopia support Djibouti against Eritrea. But Sahal the French still have a sizable troops in Djibouti the Americans are there 2 but The French never left that place.

Sahal Showa was Muslim but those Showans were not Amhara but another group called Gurage Gurage were Muslim prior to the Ethiopian Orthodox Church reached the central regions of Ethiopia. Showa was controlled by Harari and Gurage.


One thing Which is good for all of us Somalilanders jabuutians Eritreans and the Somalis of Somalia that is that Ethiopia should remain land locked , i think it is a thing we can all agree on even with all our differences and mistrust and political misunderstanding.

No need to give Ethiopia more land it has already so much land which we lost to Ethiopia.
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Khalid Ali wrote:The President of Djibouti has never been Somali centric or Dir Centric maybe Ciise centric so i doubt he cares what is going on Southern Somalia or about the disputes between the Hawiyas and the Dirs in Hiiraan lowershabelle or the one in Jamaame.

Djibouti is not under threat of Ethiopia , but its being threatened by Eritrea , Djibouti Yemen and Ethiopia and Sudan have excellent relations to strangle Eritrea the Sana Axis. Ethiopia uses Djibouti port services and Ethiopia support Djibouti against Eritrea. But Sahal the French still have a sizable troops in Djibouti the Americans are there 2 but The French never left that place.

Sahal Showa was Muslim but those Showans were not Amhara but another group called Gurage Gurage were Muslim prior to the Ethiopian Orthodox Church reached the central regions of Ethiopia. Showa was controlled by Harari and Gurage.


One thing Which is good for all of us Somalilanders jabuutians Eritreans and the Somalis of Somalia that is that Ethiopia should remain land locked , i think it is a thing we can all agree on even with all our differences and mistrust and political misunderstanding.

No need to give Ethiopia more land it has already so much land which we lost to Ethiopia.
France is djiboutis traditional ally but since september 11, its has security relations with pentagon and CIA(3500 troops)

US watches somalia and yemen from there

This gives djibouti a regional role wich she plays in somalia, remember prez hassan visiting geele when he was going to meet obama

This role is common in the gulf countries.

I was thinking that the dir community in ethiopia will benefit from such integration first and then they may have influence in the ethiopian regional policies under the the djiboutian ambrella.
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Sahal

It will mainly benefit Issas, Dir as a collective political force last existed before the Axmed Guurey wars. The Issas look out for themselves. Isaaqs are schizophrenic, some embrace their Dir roots, others are peddling myths about being grandchildren of a Shia Huseeini sheikh that landed on the coast of Somalia. In Ethiopia, the majority of Dir are part of the Oromos, especially the Madaxweyne Dir branch and some Maaha Dir like the Baarsug. The Gurgura stretch from Harar to Dire Dawa but most are Oromo speakers. Some even reverted to pagan faiths centuries ago and had to be re-Islamiced like the Borana of the Negelle region. Somalis try to distance themselves from Oromos but the only difference between us and them, is that our ancestors accepted Islam whereas our inland relatives (Oromo, Sidamo) remained pagan. Hence, why the Gaal Madoobe wars occured after the advent of Islam into the Horn of Africa. The Southern Dir are split into three groups. The Digil Dirs like Jiido, Dabarre, parts of Tunni and a significant amount of the Raxanweyn confederation. The Biimal in S/Hoose and J/Hoose. The Surre Dir scattered from Sanaag to Kismayo but with a sizeable presence in the Central provinces and the Gedo/Ethiopian border region. I almost forgot the Quraanyo Garre and the once pagan Wardei/Orma in Kenya. To cut a long story short, they became a victim of their own success and numbers. It did not also help that they were targeted by the Habashas after the Axmed Gurey wars and prior to that.

Question for you Sahal. The Meyle Samaale, i heard that the Sidamo are Meyle too. People forget that there are 9 Samaale clans and that what people consider to be foreign Cushites might be Samaale or meet up with Samaale higher up the family tree.

p.s If you are Darood or one who believes he is a Grandchild of the Prophet (SAWS), please do not be offended. To each his own somaha.
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Sahal in Ethiopia the Kilil somalida itoobiya its each to his own Ciise are Separate from Samaroon and pursue a different interest Dir as a political entity never existed in Ethiopian regional Somali politics Gaadsan and Ciise and Samaroon all 3 have no common grounds. The Gurgure are some times Dir Some times Oromo. But the President of Djibouti has no Clan ambitions on the dir level, only on the Ciise Level.
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Ilaa hada cidna may fahmin.. This topic is af carabi for, why don't the Dir move to Ethiopia/Djibouti. :pac:

His previous topic was why don't they (Dir in Somalia) move to galbeed and Waqooyi, forgetting that Dir already hold key positions in SL wether it's the military or government institutions. Sahals biggest fear and nightmare is that the Dir that doesn't live in Somalia will come for their brothers and sisters in central and southern Somalia. :pac:

IOG and Dir millionaires who are leasing land in Oromia should put their money in Kabxanley, Deefow, S/Hoose and the Jubbas specifically Jamaame and Jamaame district which is Dir. It's only Jabuutawi in here who's Dir centric.
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Dir should have made Jabuuti their center Ciise are investing in Oromia and they are forgetting their dir Brothers Sure and the others in Lower Jubba and the one in Shabellooyinka.. Dir have good lands in Gaadsan and sure and Biyo maal have good lands in Somalia but they need reinforcement from Djibouti, Ciise waraabe needs to get his act together and act as the leader of beesha Direed.
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I don't give credence to what ass kissing Hawdian says about the issues of the Horn. He propagates misinformation from Ethiopian Review Forum in Snet. Show us the actual document purporting Menelik leased Djibouti to the French? I can tell you 100% categorically that he can't produce this so called document. It is all lies fanned by landlocked Ethiopia sympathizers like Hawdian. Menelik never went beyond Shinile plateau, even at that, he had no influence north of Dira Dhabe. Your claims to Djibouti has no merit. Go and free your cousins in Gashamo from the Liyuu police, a militia group, not a formal army but a militia group, dictating to you.

There is no rosy picture for Ethiopia' future. In the next 10 years it will disintegrate into 10 to 15 new "republics" based on internal friction between the ethnic groups within its borders. The Oromos, the largest and most vociferous for self-determination , want out of this sham federalism. I believe they will achieve their goal sooner rather than later. Once Oromo leaves it is over for the Tigray elite in Addis. They will be hunted down by the Amhara who will exact revenge against the Tigrayans. Ethiopia will descend into a civil war which will irreparably tear it apart from federalism to ethnocentric nationalism.
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Jabuutawi wrote:I don't give credence to what ass kissing Hawdian says about the issues of the Horn. He propagates misinformation from Ethiopian Review Forum in Snet. Show us the actual document purporting Menelik leased Djibouti to the French? I can tell you 100% categorically that he can't produce this so called document. It is all lies fanned by landlocked Ethiopia sympathizers like Hawdian. Menelik never went beyond Shinile plateau, even at that, he had no influence north of Dira Dhabe. Your claims to Djibouti has no merit. Go and free your cousins in Gashamo from the Liyuu police, a militia group, not a formal army but a militia group, dictating to you.

There is no rosy picture for Ethiopia' future. In the next 10 years it will disintegrate into 10 to 15 new "republics" based on internal friction between the ethnic groups within its borders. The Oromos, the largest and most vociferous for self-determination , want out of this sham federalism. I believe they will achieve their goal sooner rather than later. Once Oromo leaves it is over for the Tigray elite in Addis. They will be hunted down by the Amhara who will exact revenge against the Tigrayans. Ethiopia will descend into a civil war which will irreparably tear it apart from federalism to ethnocentric nationalism.
You are a fockin cunt french whore. everyone knows djibouti was leased to france by shankella king minilik. Mengistu was demanding the return of djibouti, but the french tricked him to agree on a referendum of djiboutians either to return to ethiopia or be independet. they voted independence, and mengistu had no choice but to respect the choice of the people, because he himself was in civil war...
btw are you zack from ethiopian review?
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Khalid Ali wrote:The President of Djibouti has never been Somali centric or Dir Centric maybe Ciise centric so i doubt he cares what is going on Southern Somalia or about the disputes between the Hawiyas and the Dirs in Hiiraan lowershabelle or the one in Jamaame.

Djibouti is not under threat of Ethiopia , but its being threatened by Eritrea , Djibouti Yemen and Ethiopia and Sudan have excellent relations to strangle Eritrea the Sana Axis. Ethiopia uses Djibouti port services and Ethiopia support Djibouti against Eritrea. But Sahal the French still have a sizable troops in Djibouti the Americans are there 2 but The French never left that place.

Sahal Showa was Muslim but those Showans were not Amhara but another group called Gurage Gurage were Muslim prior to the Ethiopian Orthodox Church reached the central regions of Ethiopia. Showa was controlled by Harari and Gurage.


One thing Which is good for all of us Somalilanders jabuutians Eritreans and the Somalis of Somalia that is that Ethiopia should remain land locked , i think it is a thing we can all agree on even with all our differences and mistrust and political misunderstanding.

No need to give Ethiopia more land it has already so much land which we lost to Ethiopia.
Sooner or later tigray/ethiopia will get its historical seacoast. there is no one in the horn that pays huge price to protect the horns coast like the tegarus. our forefathers died protecting our redsea from the ottomans, italians, egypitians and english.
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Tigre is a small ethnic in Ethiopian terms they are Laangaab, Amhara are the leaders of the Xabashis. Afoworki is on the red sea and he has the support of the Arabs Egypt and Saudi Arabia, what are you going to do.
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comeAndGo wrote:
Khalid Ali wrote:The President of Djibouti has never been Somali centric or Dir Centric maybe Ciise centric so i doubt he cares what is going on Southern Somalia or about the disputes between the Hawiyas and the Dirs in Hiiraan lowershabelle or the one in Jamaame.

Djibouti is not under threat of Ethiopia , but its being threatened by Eritrea , Djibouti Yemen and Ethiopia and Sudan have excellent relations to strangle Eritrea the Sana Axis. Ethiopia uses Djibouti port services and Ethiopia support Djibouti against Eritrea. But Sahal the French still have a sizable troops in Djibouti the Americans are there 2 but The French never left that place.

Sahal Showa was Muslim but those Showans were not Amhara but another group called Gurage Gurage were Muslim prior to the Ethiopian Orthodox Church reached the central regions of Ethiopia. Showa was controlled by Harari and Gurage.


One thing Which is good for all of us Somalilanders jabuutians Eritreans and the Somalis of Somalia that is that Ethiopia should remain land locked , i think it is a thing we can all agree on even with all our differences and mistrust and political misunderstanding.

No need to give Ethiopia more land it has already so much land which we lost to Ethiopia.
Sooner or later tigray/ethiopia will get its historical seacoast. there is no one in the horn that pays huge price to protect the horns coast like the tegarus. our forefathers died protecting our redsea from the ottomans, italians, egypitians and english.

Hawadian, have you come out as a Tigre finally. Take gollum aka Khalid ali with you.
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comeAndGo wrote:
Jabuutawi wrote:I don't give credence to what ass kissing Hawdian says about the issues of the Horn. He propagates misinformation from Ethiopian Review Forum in Snet. Show us the actual document purporting Menelik leased Djibouti to the French? I can tell you 100% categorically that he can't produce this so called document. It is all lies fanned by landlocked Ethiopia sympathizers like Hawdian. Menelik never went beyond Shinile plateau, even at that, he had no influence north of Dira Dhabe. Your claims to Djibouti has no merit. Go and free your cousins in Gashamo from the Liyuu police, a militia group, not a formal army but a militia group, dictating to you.

There is no rosy picture for Ethiopia' future. In the next 10 years it will disintegrate into 10 to 15 new "republics" based on internal friction between the ethnic groups within its borders. The Oromos, the largest and most vociferous for self-determination , want out of this sham federalism. I believe they will achieve their goal sooner rather than later. Once Oromo leaves it is over for the Tigray elite in Addis. They will be hunted down by the Amhara who will exact revenge against the Tigrayans. Ethiopia will descend into a civil war which will irreparably tear it apart from federalism to ethnocentric nationalism.
You are a fockin cunt french whore. everyone knows djibouti was leased to france by shankella king minilik. Mengistu was demanding the return of djibouti, but the french tricked him to agree on a referendum of djiboutians either to return to ethiopia or be independet. they voted independence, and mengistu had no choice but to respect the choice of the people, because he himself was in civil war...
btw are you zack from ethiopian review?
The referendum was whether Djabouti should join Somalia not Ethiopia. Its the reason why the name was changed in order to dilute the Somali ownership rights...
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:dead: Xabashi scum. They dis him sometimes and he still sucks their ceeb lol
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Khalid Ali wrote:Tigre is a small ethnic in Ethiopian terms they are Laangaab, Amhara are the leaders of the Xabashis. Afoworki is on the red sea and he has the support of the Arabs Egypt and Saudi Arabia, what are you going to do.
There is no habesha no more.
Tigray has to fall under true, pure tegaru leadership first inorder to gain its seacoast
the present tplf is dominated by half askari tegaru, who thinks like the shewa philosophy of ruling tigray by weakening, starving and reviving an old feud among the awrajas of tigray
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