Somali Ferguson protest organizer tells white protestors....

[Sophisticate]

PrInce with all do respect, people do not offer a hand without wanting something in return. Like Saxony suggested its not merely about numbers but unity and your economic clout, especially if you want your condition to improve. People that pity you cannot respect you at the same time. You don't need others to add to your numbers or confuse/co-opt your agenda. Is it odd for me to be suspicious about others intentions? If there is anything I have learned from observing African Americans it is that sadly, they have put everyone under their veil of protection against injustice - but no one has done the same for them. They are selfless when it comes to everyone but themselves. Whereas, others don't care about them really. It's hard to care about someone that doesn't care about themselves "collectively". Sorry if I'm moving away from the topic. Let me say this, non-black people do not want Black people to thrive, perhaps just survive sub-optimally. They are content knowing that they are an underclass at the moment. I'm certain they do not want to take that spot. Do you think they want to see a plethora of black owned businesses, two-parent homes, academic achievement and an abundance mentality? - No. They couldn't care less. In fact they are afraid that their so called privilege could be challenged, they are afraid of an equal playing field. I think its natural to be selfish. Care for yourself first because no one else will do the footwork for you. They will only start to notice when you have your act together, perhaps then they will join the bandwagon or loath you from the sidelines.

[ZubeirAwal]

When Somalis get themselves involved in things like this it really leaves me bewildered, nine times out of 10 if a jareer was shot down in your tuulo ama your magaalad nothing will be done, laakin it's all for show iyo istusnimo.

When Mark Duggan was shot in London 2011 we knew how to instill fear in the police, none of this nacnac peaceful protest maalayacni.

The food that north americans eat really make them feel defeated and docile.



London 2011

[Prlnce]

PrInce with all do respect, people do not offer a hand without wanting something in return. Like Saxony suggested its not merely about numbers but unity and your economic clout, especially if you want your condition to improve. People that pity you cannot respect you at the same time. You don't need others to add to your numbers or confuse/co-opt your agenda. Is it odd for me to be suspicious about others intentions? If there is anything I have learned from observing African Americans it is that sadly, they have put everyone under their veil of protection against injustice - but no one has done the same for them. They are selfless when it comes to everyone but themselves. Whereas, others don't care about them really. It's hard to care about someone that doesn't care about themselves "collectively". Sorry if I'm moving away from the topic. Let me say this, non-black people do not want Black people to thrive, perhaps just survive sub-optimally. They are content knowing that they are an underclass at the moment. I'm certain they do not want to take that spot. Do you think they want to see a plethora of black owned businesses, two-parent homes, academic achievement and an abundance mentality? - No. They couldn't care less. In fact they are afraid that their so called privilege could be challenged, they are afraid of an equal playing field. I think its natural to be selfish. Care for yourself first because no one else will do the footwork for you. They will only start to notice when you have your act together, perhaps then they will join the bandwagon or loath you from the sidelines.

I beg to differ, just because someone offers a helping hand doesn't mean they are calculating, malicious and selfish person. If you are expecting something in return every time you help someone out. You will be extremely disappointed. I don't think you are odd for being suspicious thats just part of human nature we live in a cynical world. I also don't see how having empathic concern and respecting someone are mutually exclusive. You can't control who shows up at a natural and spontaneous protest at a public square. I also disagree with the statement that "African American have put everyone under their veil of protection against injustice but no one has done the same for them". The jews did in the 40's 50's and 60's . They fought the Jim Crow laws help established NAACP. But what I really have an issue with is the myth that African American are a monolithic group with a collective experience. The same way we talk about Somalis in this forum as if we are all the same. That we live the same life style that we are uneducated. That we are on welfare, locked up, from single-parent households.

[Sophisticate]

PrInce with all do respect, people do not offer a hand without wanting something in return. Like Saxony suggested its not merely about numbers but unity and your economic clout, especially if you want your condition to improve. People that pity you cannot respect you at the same time. You don't need others to add to your numbers or confuse/co-opt your agenda. Is it odd for me to be suspicious about others intentions? If there is anything I have learned from observing African Americans it is that sadly, they have put everyone under their veil of protection against injustice - but no one has done the same for them. They are selfless when it comes to everyone but themselves. Whereas, others don't care about them really. It's hard to care about someone that doesn't care about themselves "collectively". Sorry if I'm moving away from the topic. Let me say this, non-black people do not want Black people to thrive, perhaps just survive sub-optimally. They are content knowing that they are an underclass at the moment. I'm certain they do not want to take that spot. Do you think they want to see a plethora of black owned businesses, two-parent homes, academic achievement and an abundance mentality? - No. They couldn't care less. In fact they are afraid that their so called privilege could be challenged, they are afraid of an equal playing field. I think its natural to be selfish. Care for yourself first because no one else will do the footwork for you. They will only start to notice when you have your act together, perhaps then they will join the bandwagon or loath you from the sidelines.

I beg to differ, just because someone offers a helping hand doesn't mean they are calculating, malicious and selfish person. If you are expecting something in return every time you help someone out. You will be extremely disappointed. I don't think you are odd for being suspicious thats just part of human nature we live in a cynical world. I also don't see how having empathic concern and respecting someone are mutually exclusive. You can't control who shows up at a natural and spontaneous protest at a public square. I also disagree with the statement that "African American have put everyone under their veil of protection against injustice but no one has done the same for them". The jews did in the 40's 50's and 60's . They fought the Jim Crow laws help established NAACP. But what I really have an issue with is the myth that African American are a monolithic group with a collective experience. The same way we talk about Somalis in this forum as if we are all the same. That we live the same life style that we are uneducated. That we are on welfare, locked up, from single-parent households.

PrInce I'm not trying to wear a humanist hat at the moment sxb. Maybe on my next thread or post. Of course there are well-intentioned people that wish to attend a protest as a way to show their concern, irrespective of their place of origin. There are people that wish to fight police brutality or profiling that cannot identify with that experience. Let's take it a step further though, they will help you but they do not want "equality" in every way. They don't mind helping, but not to the detriment of their people. Yes I understand they are not a monolithic group, but they do identify themselves as white - collectively to differentiate themselves, and they have habit of doing the same to others. Are they all on the same page no, but they would be damned if they are super-seceded by another group. I will not be discussing Asians, perhaps at another time.

About the NAACP it was started by non-black people and funded by them since 1909 to keep an eye on the progress made by AA people, they allowed progress but they kept a lid on how far. Financing is a form of controlling the trajectory of a movement or struggle, along with the platform. This is why I have more respect for Garvey's UNIA, since they forbade seemingly well-meaning philanthropists (that did not belong to their group) from financing it in any way, shape or form.

I also get people do not have a collective experience in fact they have access to different kinds of social capital even if they belong to the same ethnic group of identification. You can't speak of people in monolithic terms but we do it all the time. I don't think people care about the outliers, PrInce. Sure some of us have proper diction, an advanced degree and educated parents that are still married. The truth is this does not reflect the the vast majority, and I know people are viewed according to how others from their respective group are doing. Sorry bro, you are aggregated with the rest. Not that it matters, you can still be a success. Just trying to illustrate a point. Perhaps because I come from a collectivist culture that is in conflict with individualism that I can't separate myself from the whole. As much as I try.

[waraabe251]

Somali women are out of control wallahi

I say it is time to bring that Pakistani and arab treatment

[Gabre]

Smh, too much self-hatred and internalized racism here.

Negroes, wax fahma: madow baa tihiin.

[Hyperactive]

You do know that black people can't be racist right? Reverse racism doesn't exist. We don't have the power to be racist.

i agree, reverse racism doesnt exist. blacks do not have systamatic or system backed up racist even if they want it.

walle 3adalad aduunka ma jirto.

[Gabre]

Thank you Autumn and Sheekhuna hyperactive.

[Hyperactive]

gabre, merci

[Basra-]

This thread makes it seem that Somalis are worst than the adoons themselves. I would expect an adoon to say something like this--not a Somali. I guess-- Somalis are bringing their qabil segregation doctrine into Ferguson protests. Its sort of a dumb thing. It is statements like this that make u want to side with the White people. because at the end of the day-at least--they do things in the name of right. Not blindly support a nigg.er who just minutes before robbings a shop, violently I might add, got killed.

[LiquidHYDROGEN]

Lol@reverse racism. The braindead faraxs and xalimos on here remind me of the coconuts that appear on Fox News.

[Basra-]

liquid

when did u discover u were bisexual?