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Estarix wrote:I dont see them doing it to fulfill any sexual needs, why not just call it what it is. These girls in their mind are travelling to the Middle East in order to fulfill their religion. In the same way a guy fights in a jihad goes to heaven when he dies fighting, the same applies for a girl who dies assisting the mujahids (medical role etc). But according to most there is no legitimate jihad going on over there, potentially rendering their efforts fruitless.
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Jugjugwacwac wrote:Women, by design, are attracted to bellicose and aggressive males, which in their hindbrain represents protection for her and her offspring. That's why women love assholes and nice guys finish last. But since in todays West males no longer need nor are allowed to use violence or overly aggressive means to acheive their ends, women use proxies such as career success, confidence and ranking in male social hierarchies to determine the ability for a man to provide protection for her and her children. The problem is these young Somali girls haven't matured enough to use such proxies, and were lured by the raw violence and alpha male appeal of the men in ISIS. These girls were the victims of their biological programming and lack of guidance from strong male figures in their families.
interesting point.

Women are meant to behave in a nurturing feminine way for the alpha male, I had a very stunning girl I was dating back in 2014 bend down and wipe some small dirt on my shoe, this she did in public. Women are submissive in nature.

The Somali guys are know are very beta, there are few alpha but majority are beta especially when around arabs/turks etc, they become like their bitch.

It is a cultural flaw that needs to be corrected, I mean we are raised to adore the prophet but not necessarily the entire arab race, so we should check ourselves, it is a problem that can be fixed.

I have always looked down on arabs since I was young I use to point my finger at them Lol.
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Cherine wrote:Elite,
There's too many of them which makes ensuring each get your individual attention & care difficult. Somali people especially recent arrivals/traditional ones should be taught family planning/parenting techniques.
Maybe but I think Somali parents usually show disinterest in how their kids grow up. For example, Somali parents do not monitor how their kids perform in school. They do not attend meetings and conferences between teachers and parents. They often don't care or give a shit of what their kids want to become when they grow up. All Somali parents worry about is to make sure their daughters don't become whores, that is it. Their sons are almost always given 100% freedom to do as they please which makes these kids susceptible to the evil terror recruiting agents. A typical somali family goes like this: The mother wakes up, does chores, cooks, father goes to work, kids go to school, males will play sports and hang out with friends, girls will come home, they will go to dugsi saturday and sunday and then it is a cycle come monday. It seems like the learning that the kids get is done either in school or everywhere else but home because their parents do not know how to raise their kids.
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Adali wrote:
Jugjugwacwac wrote: interesting point.

Women are meant to behave in a nurturing feminine way for the alpha male, I had a very stunning girl I was dating back in 2014 bend down and wipe some small dirt on my shoe, this she did in public. Women are submissive in nature.

The Somali guys are know are very beta, there are few alpha but majority are beta especially when around arabs/turks etc, they become like their bitch.

It is a cultural flaw that needs to be corrected, I mean we are raised to adore the prophet but not necessarily the entire arab race, so we should check ourselves, it is a problem that can be fixed.

I have always looked down on arabs since I was young I use to point my finger at them Lol.
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eliteSomali wrote: Maybe but I think Somali parents usually show disinterest in how their kids grow up. For example, Somali parents do not monitor how their kids perform in school. They do not attend meetings and conferences between teachers and parents. They often don't care or give a shit of what their kids want to become when they grow up. All Somali parents worry about is to make sure their daughters don't become whores, that is it. Their sons are almost always given 100% freedom to do as they please which makes these kids susceptible to the evil terror recruiting agents. A typical somali family goes like this: The mother wakes up, does chores, cooks, father goes to work, kids go to school, males will play sports and hang out with friends, girls will come home, they will go to dugsi saturday and sunday and then it is a cycle come monday. It seems like the learning that the kids get is done either in school or everywhere else but home because their parents do not know how to raise their kids.
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eliteSomali wrote:
Cherine wrote:Elite,
There's too many of them which makes ensuring each get your individual attention & care difficult. Somali people especially recent arrivals/traditional ones should be taught family planning/parenting techniques.
Maybe but I think Somali parents usually show disinterest in how their kids grow up. For example, Somali parents do not monitor how their kids perform in school. They do not attend meetings and conferences between teachers and parents. They often don't care or give a shit of what their kids want to become when they grow up. All Somali parents worry about is to make sure their daughters don't become whores, that is it. Their sons are almost always given 100% freedom to do as they please which makes these kids susceptible to the evil terror recruiting agents. A typical somali family goes like this: The mother wakes up, does chores, cooks, father goes to work, kids go to school, males will play sports and hang out with friends, girls will come home, they will go to dugsi saturday and sunday and then it is a cycle come monday. It seems like the learning that the kids get is done either in school or everywhere else but home because their parents do not know how to raise their kids.
Unfortunately ur right on the money. Disengaged parenting worked in pre-civil war Somalia, because the broader culture outside the home was in harmony with the one in the house. The situation in the West is the opposite, where the broader culture is at complete odds with somali culture and islamic values. If you dont engage ur kids you'll be raising athiests, homosexuals, rastafarians, isis recruits and u won't even know it until it's too late.
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Murax wrote:coming from the West In Iraq/Syria, while Somali boys also leaving the West and taking the menial jobs of washing the clothes of the former Baathi alcoholics turned psycos. I was just wondering if any of You can tell Me How many Young Arab Westerners came to Somalia to join AS? I'm sure there must be many. Thanks in advance.

AS had a large contingent of foreigners within their ranks. secondly, it is easier for people to get syria than somalia, dozens of non-somalis were detained trying to get to somalia via kenya.thirdly, somalis account for a tiny percentage of people going to syria.. just the other day, two bengali and ethiopian girl joined from the UK. of course, somalinet tends to exaggerate these things. war dadkani waa imtixaan.
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mayn, elite idk about you but my parents were strict, wallahi i recall my pops asking me to show me my facebook login and pw when I was like 15, at around 17 I got alot more freedom tho, but I understand the point that your making.
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EliteSomali,

In My post I called out the dumbo boys and girls who do. The Boys its been reported that Somalis had the worst role in this little terror group, while Westerners, Arabs Had the best roles. Also You are wrong in your premise, Somali Men for the most part don't work they drink shah, talk for a living.

Jugjugwacwac,

Very, very interesting post. I never really noticed that. Somalis are sometimes alpha but I agree with Adali the whole Arab thing, they are betas.
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When you don't really know your diin, you fall for anything. They see dying civilians and some guy saying how they are on the path of God and will get jannah. Beautiful words, but the actions say much differently. But their ignorance drives them astray.

Majority of these kids don't even pray regularly. They don't know basic aqeedah. They couldn't tell you basic rulings of fiqh on things like sawm, salat and zakat, which is obligatory on all of us. A lot of them used to live backwards lives. Everything from drinking, drugs, wild clubbing, the whole 9 yards. Because they don't know their diin they are compelled to blindly follow because they speak beautiful words, yet their actions say much different things.

Same thing as the khawarij of yesteryear.
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Anybody stupid enough to throw their life away for a religion deserve death :pacspit:
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Murax wrote:
Cherine wrote:Former Ba'athists? What is this dishonesty! They are Salafis, do not try to flick your dirt onto others dude.

It is well known that the top leadership in that pysco group are disgruntled, former personel in Saddam Hussein's Ba'athi party. They had a lot of military training, expertise and Iraq just like Somalia is tribal. There was a time When there were Somali tribes who supported Shishkabab out of Qabilnimo. The thing is I notice a double standard where a Somali who's been Religious his whole life has zero credibility with these stupid youth, yet a former Arab criminal who one days turns Khaariji gets instant credibility.

Yeah, Somali females are going to Syria and Iraq to marry ba'athists because they are all members of the Iraqi Ba'athis party in the UK and elsewhere. C'mon, who do you take us for? All the people that have gone back are salafists, there is no if's but's or and's about it. Now, I don't want condemn Salafism as a whole, but something in Salafism off-shoots is inspiring these kids.
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Shirib,Advo,

Its not about Religious brainwashing, its just that Somalis are low people, WE are low collectively.
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I can vouch for one dad I know who MaashaAllah raised his kids well. He has three boys all grown up. the youngest is 19. Two finished their schooling and are now MaashaAllah in respectable jobs i.e high earners. Now the youngest who was finalizing his second year at university this term boards a plane and texts his brother from turkey. Saying plizz tell the family to forgive me,I'm going to fight for Allah. A ain't coming back. Abo becomes hysterical and flies to Istanbul in a futile attempt to get him back. Miskeen, no trace and comes back empty handed. Waxan maqle he said there was no deen in my our house and deemed his dad a kaafir. "I have to make Hijra to Islamic land"
He was very bright student. Was a student st Mary's university.
Maxad ka Oran laheyd this case? Where the parents did their utmost best yet the kid took a different path? Blame the parents too?

I think its more than raising the kids well. Bigger forces at work. It's a new phenomenon that's taking everyone by a suprise. Maamadii lixda caruur dhashey oo xamar isu qarxisey lacked good parenting skills too I guese.

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