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Jugjugwacwac wrote:

TheMailMan wrote:

sophisticate wrote:Jamal Addow these accounts were about the mainstream Somali irrespective of clan. This is first time foreigners met a group of people like this. Remember, other groups tended to be servile. While the Somali was always on top no matter what. And were dubious and unpredictable to foreigners. Somalis if united ideological for a cause are a formidable threat. I'm certain Somalis would have stretched well past Kenya and Ethiopia if it wasn't for British meddling.

And THIS is why I'm against Somalis marrying into other races. I want this Somalinimo to be preserved.

I want our culture, language, facial features.... to be preserved for as long as possible.

The Somalis are a unique people. And we are few in number. We need to recognize our uniqueness and preserve it by any means necessary. Somalia belongs to the Somali people and should stay free from any foreign influence.

Miscegenation is an abomination.

Bro I know plenty of Somalis who are half-Italian, half-Jamaican, half-Iraqi, etc.

Believe me wallahi, their mannerisms and character are not Somali. They don't look like us, they don't behave like us, and they're just.....different. There may be a few exceptions here and there, but by and large that's what I've noticed.

I have nothing against other races, but I realize that our Somali ethnicity is something beautiful and something that should be preserved .

Somali men should marry Somali women. And Somali women should marry their Somali men.

ZubeirAwal wrote:Thanks admins , keep this thread clean of tribal feuds.

TheMailMan, I agree saaxiib.

Whatever characteristics the individual Somali possessed it was counterproductive simultaneously. That celebrated rebellious, defiant free spirit contributed to our inability to ever be a politically organised ethnic group in the past, and probably the future. We are anarchists and for a people to prosper there must be an adherence to order. I have said it a thousand times; only with the firm rule of an Islamic State will we ever amount to something and reign in our Achilles heel.

TheMailMan wrote:

Bro I know plenty of Somalis who are half-Italian, half-Jamaican, half-Iraqi, etc.

Believe me wallahi, their mannerisms and character are not Somali. They don't look like us, they don't behave like us, and they're just.....different. There may be a few exceptions here and there, but by and large that's what I've noticed.

I have nothing against other races, but I realize that our Somali ethnicity is something beautiful and something that should be preserved .

Somali men should marry Somali women. And Somali women should marry their Somali men.

So you believe that behavior is influenced by genetics. That i agree . But that doesnt mean change is for better or worse - just different. Secondly i wouldnt harp on about miscegenation, that sort of thing is out of our hands. Most people only care about their own and familial immediate interests not for a collective cause. So mixing will happen and there's nothing you or i can do about it when it comes.
I personally think Somalis abroad (in the west primarily) will be absorbed into dominant ethnic label considering trends. Most Somalis are integrated in one way or another. Assimilation is a long process but it will come and it's almost inevitable imo, infact many already have assimilated culturally or through breeding .
Im sure races that had existed at one point in one form or another - the Mediterranean races (hoplites, illyrians) from North East to Italy all the way to Bulgaria had been absorbed by Slavs, hell our neighbor cushitic tribes have been absorbed by Bantus. And when the time came it happened. Like you they all had their self preservationists, but there was nothing anyone can do about it. Its qadr - completely out of our hands as individuals.

Jugjugwacwac wrote:Estariz, you do have a point there. Of all the talk of quintessential Somali pride, fierce independence and arrogance, it's ironic that these very traits, engendered by our harsh and austere environment and nomadic lifstyle, have become our achilles heel. Even more counterintuitive is that, for many a Somali, such pride has led to deep-seated inferiority complexes and self-hatred after witnessing the powerfully destructive and utterly humiliating capabilities of this much lauded pride when misdirected toward intra-somali conflicts, as is the case more than not.

Well put.

zumaale wrote:Whatever characteristics the individual Somali possessed it was counterproductive simultaneously. That celebrated rebellious, defiant free spirit contributed to our inability to ever be a politically organised ethnic group in the past, and probably the future. We are anarchists and for a people to prosper there must be an adherence to order. I have said it a thousand times; only with the firm rule of an Islamic State will we ever amount to something and reign in our Achilles heel.

These characteristics don't have to be in conflict. You can still be dignified, free-spirited and group-oriented. I don't think we have to become bootlickers, just to work together. We can still be self-confident, hardworking and cooperative. Don't be fooled.

Estarix wrote:

TheMailMan wrote:

Bro I know plenty of Somalis who are half-Italian, half-Jamaican, half-Iraqi, etc.

Believe me wallahi, their mannerisms and character are not Somali. They don't look like us, they don't behave like us, and they're just.....different. There may be a few exceptions here and there, but by and large that's what I've noticed.

I have nothing against other races, but I realize that our Somali ethnicity is something beautiful and something that should be preserved .

Somali men should marry Somali women. And Somali women should marry their Somali men.

So you believe that behavior is influenced by genetics. That i agree . But that doesnt mean change is for better or worse - just different. Secondly i wouldnt harp on about miscegenation, that sort of thing is out of our hands. Most people only care about their own and familial immediate interests not for a collective cause. So mixing will happen and there's nothing you or i can do about it when it comes.
I personally think Somalis abroad (in the west primarily) will be absorbed into dominant ethnic label considering trends. Most Somalis are integrated in one way or another. Assimilation is a long process but it will come and it's almost inevitable imo, infact many already have assimilated culturally or through breeding .
Im sure races that had existed at one point in one form or another - the Mediterranean races (hoplites, illyrians) from North East to Italy all the way to Bulgaria had been absorbed by Slavs, hell our neighbor cushitic tribes have been absorbed by Bantus. And when the time came it happened. Like you they all had their self preservationists, but there was nothing anyone can do about it. Its qadr - completely out of our hands as individuals.

I don't think Somalis will be absorbed, as you purport. They will still exist. That is alarmist thought. The self-preservationists far outnumber the others as we stand. The only problem is Somalis need to improve their economic situation. They can still remain if they are ideologically and economically integrated. Otherwise, their divisiveness will be their downfall.

"These people wander through the interior of Jubaland in endless search of water and pasture for their
stock. Wild and warlike at heart, the true Somali finds peace only in strife, and freedom only in a
restless life. "
https://archive.org/stream/throughjubal ... c_djvu.txt

I think claims was our down fall. somalis will always be at their knees if they don't stop the clan worship. There is not there group in this world that would wish death and destruction on their own people like the somalis do. truly sad. And i agree with sophi 100%


thanks for the thread Zubier <3

guhad122 wrote:"These people wander through the interior of Jubaland in endless search of water and pasture for their
stock. Wild and warlike at heart, the true Somali finds peace only in strife, and freedom only in a
restless life. "
https://archive.org/stream/throughjubal ... c_djvu.txt

"Wild and warlike heart, the true Somali finds peace only in strife and freedom only in a restless life"

Ina Adeer

Haddeer qofkaasi waxaa qorrey ma na amaaney mise wuxuu noo qarshay caay? As I have interpreted it, wuxuu na lee yahay was dad ah savages barbarians oo aan ku noolaan karrin dunida casriga ah. Waa uun dad loo uumey qaxar iyo dagaal oo aan nabadda jecleeyn.

What I find really interesting is the fact that its the white man's words and praises that validate our...bravery. ...uniqueness and self worth.

Because the white man himself is the yardstick to measure all men.

Just like a calculator will be used to check ones own mathematical calculation we use san cadaale's books and generous commentary to give weight to our geesinimo.
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Awoowgey bah awoowga ka g'us weynaa...you don't believe me?

Ask mr Smidh...

Even when not united Somalis of yesteryears had integrity and respected each other, the majority of them had a sense of duty to their community and Somali society at large which protected them in the end from missionaries, enslavement, and other abuses. Even the enemy who wanted to oppress them was jealous of their resilience, brotherhood and dignity. This just shows that true wealth is being part of a strong, vibrant community with same ideals and aspirations.

jalaaludin5 wrote:What I find really interesting is the fact that its the white man's words and praises that validate our...bravery. ...uniqueness and self worth.

Because the white man himself is the yardstick to measure all men.

Just like a calculator will be used to check ones own mathematical calculation we use san cadaale's books and generous commentary to give weight to our geesinimo.
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Awoowgey bah awoowga ka g'us weynaa...you don't believe me?

Ask mr Smidh...

Walaahi been maad sheegin. The irony is sweet.

"Massa whiteman says I is brave" Xoolo foqol xoolo

jalaaludin5 wrote:What I find really interesting is the fact that its the white man's words and praises that validate our...bravery. ...uniqueness and self worth.

Because the white man himself is the yardstick to measure all men.

Just like a calculator will be used to check ones own mathematical calculation we use san cadaale's books and generous commentary to give weight to our geesinimo.
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Awoowgey bah awoowga ka g'us weynaa...you don't believe me?

Ask mr Smidh...

I chocked on my tea! LOOOL.