Puntland Independence NOW

[Xamud.]

Buranbuur
Why even bother? This dude knows nothing, if he did he would know that Puntland had 3000-4000 troops stationed in Mogadishu, Puntlanders were fighting Alshabab in Mogadishu long before the rag tag SNA forces.

kulaha contributed nothing, Puntland made the biggest contribution, dhiig iyo naf.

[Buraanbur]

Buranbuur
Why even bother? This dude knows nothing, if he did he would know that Puntland had 3000-4000 troops stationed in Mogadishu, Puntlanders were fighting Alshabab in Mogadishu long before the rag tag SNA forces.

kulaha contributed nothing, Puntland made the biggest contribution, dhiig iyo naf.

On top of that the Puntland government nearly went bankrupt for bankrolling the TFG. This guy is like a broken record and sometimes you need to knock it against the wall a few times to get it working. The truth shall set him free.

[Xamud.]

Buranbuur
Why even bother? This dude knows nothing, if he did he would know that Puntland had 3000-4000 troops stationed in Mogadishu, Puntlanders were fighting Alshabab in Mogadishu long before the rag tag SNA forces.

kulaha contributed nothing, Puntland made the biggest contribution, dhiig iyo naf.

On top of that the Puntland government nearly went bankrupt for bankrolling the TFG. This guy is like a broken record and sometimes you need to knock it against the wall a few times to get it working. The truth shall set him free.

knock some sense into him.

[theyuusuf143]

well its my opinion. I don't consider puntlanders unionists at all , I see them as fellow under cover separatists with the same ambition. I am just informing those who knows nothing about you and that can contribute our own security issues. I don't want to see abgaal or eelay forces defending pintland from my own sln army just because he thinks pintland is a unionist state. this is the one of the biggest reasons you guys wan to remain with the other wanlweyns for a while, you want to use them against us politically and militarily. the mjs troops in xamar were just defending their late warlord cabdullahi yusuf they never went their for somalinimo in fact they brought the greatest somali enemy the xabashis in the heart of muqdishu for the first time in history. many somalis cried because of ciil and shame when they warched xabashis shelling banaadir what a disgrace.

[Buraanbur]

well its my opinion. I don't consider puntlanders unionists at all , I see them as fellow under cover separatists with the same ambition. I am just informing those who knows nothing about you and that can contribute our own security issues. I don't want to see abgaal or eelay forces defending pintland from my own sln army just because he thinks pintland is a unionist state. this is the one of the biggest reasons you guys wan to remain with the other wanlweyns for a while, you want to use them against us politically and militarily. the mjs troops in xamar were just defending their late warlord cabdullahi yusuf they never went their for somalinimo in fact they brought the greatest somali enemy the xabashis in the heart of muqdishu for the first time in history. many somalis cried because of ciil and shame when they warched xabashis shelling banaadir what a disgrace.

Well you know what they say about opinions, right? Everyone's got one. Your opinion on Puntland is not anymore valid than my 2 year old nephews opinion. If you do not have any evidence to support your opinion, it remains just that..an opinion. I brought you facts, but you are too blinded by your myopic hatred of Puntland (and MJs in particular) too see the truth. Good luck with your independence bid.

[LeJusticier]

Where's Xamud.?

Xamud is the mod to clean Pl section. He should protect this section trolls like Bigbreak who's only purpose is to troll.

He might be a troll but as far as I can see he has not done anything wrong as of now. He just asked a simple question.

That Farax have history of spoiling topics with his troll in this section. You are right he didn't break any rules for now....just keep an eyes.

[theyuusuf143]

Boowe wacadkii ilaahay inagu waynu is ognehee ee dadka kale aynu dooda wax ka siino.
dhabayacaa somalia daacad ula shaqaysay waxa milyan jeer ka suurtagalsan iidoor iyo dhabayacaa geelii iyo kalluunkii isku darsaday calaashaan isku biiray.

[WaaliCas]

When I look at PL, SL, independence and union----I have my own analogy. I look at them as the case of Eritrea, Tigray and the Ethiopian state. SL is the yet to be recognized Eritrea. PL is the Tigray that plays the union card just for the honey.

There are check and balance mechanism in all societies and should SL succeed in its statehood, there is not much PL can have in common with Mogadishu and will seek independence too.

The only question that remains is will SL bury PL secession like Eritrea buried Tigrais Abay Tigray Republic (1976 manifesto manifesto)? Or would they aid PL to cede for good?

I personally think the first case is the likely scenario and PL will be caught between two hard rocks like Tigray.

If things continue the way they are in Mogadishu, many PLanders will not see the point of being part of AMISOM.

[Bari14]

goboloda Puntland has done nothing for my kinsmen in Dhur Duri who are having to defend themselves against land grabs from Arabs who are in desperate search for fertile land. Khaatumo, Puntland, Somaliland its all the same shit.

Somalia waa hal

What makes you think Puntland owes you anything? The government has done next to nothing for the people of Eastern/coastal Bari, but you don't see them flip-flopping. Loyalty is a concept that is foreign to people like you.

Loyalty to what? A flag that a group of politicians decided to throw a dash of green on? If you are going to represent a region then at least make some effort to represent the people as well.

What is a government that doesn't protect it's own citizens?

[Buraanbur]

goboloda Puntland has done nothing for my kinsmen in Dhur Duri who are having to defend themselves against land grabs from Arabs who are in desperate search for fertile land. Khaatumo, Puntland, Somaliland its all the same shit.

Somalia waa hal

What makes you think Puntland owes you anything? The government has done next to nothing for the people of Eastern/coastal Bari, but you don't see them flip-flopping. Loyalty is a concept that is foreign to people like you.

Loyalty to what? A flag that a group of politicians decided to throw a dash of green on? If you are going to represent a region then at least make some effort to represent the people as well.

What is a government that doesn't protect it's own citizens?

You know exactly what I mean. Protect you from who and what? Your own cousins?! Fix up, get your acts together and get rid of your victimhood mentality. Your loyalty is easily bought and you side with whomever pays you the most but you also want all the benefits that come with being a Puntlander. Not gonna happen. Puntland caught on and is done giving welfare to you flip-floppers.

[thegoodshepherd]

Yusuf, Majerteen is not like Isaaq, we think big. I want Puntland to remain part of Somalia because Jubaland is too far.
If All Darood lands were connected I would be for declaring Independence right there.
Isaaq waa qabil kooban who all live in the same general area, while MJ have interests and tol in the south.
We are not even close

[Bari14]

goboloda Puntland has done nothing for my kinsmen in Dhur Duri who are having to defend themselves against land grabs from Arabs who are in desperate search for fertile land. Khaatumo, Puntland, Somaliland its all the same shit.

Somalia waa hal

What makes you think Puntland owes you anything? The government has done next to nothing for the people of Eastern/coastal Bari, but you don't see them flip-flopping. Loyalty is a concept that is foreign to people like you.

Loyalty to what? A flag that a group of politicians decided to throw a dash of green on? If you are going to represent a region then at least make some effort to represent the people as well.

What is a government that doesn't protect it's own citizens?[/quote]

You know exactly what I mean. Protect you from who and what? Your own cousins?! Fix up, get your acts together and get rid of your victimhood mentality. Your loyalty is easily bought and you side with whomever pays you the most but you also want all the benefits that come with being a Puntlander. Not gonna happen. Puntland caught on and is done giving welfare to you flip-floppers. [/quote]

No I don't know what you mean. Puntland is quick to claim oil rights but when it comes to siding in conflicts, they pick their battles wisely.

Kinda like how you made it a crusade to push Puntland propaganda through this entire forum. You are no different from the Isaaqnimo fearlessly defending their precious Somaliland :Russ:

GTFO with your manifestos and P'Land banter

[gegiroor]

Buranbuur
Why even bother? This dude knows nothing, if he did he would know that Puntland had 3000-4000 troops stationed in Mogadishu, Puntlanders were fighting Alshabab in Mogadishu long before the rag tag SNA forces.

kulaha contributed nothing, Puntland made the biggest contribution, dhiig iyo naf.

Well said!

[gegiroor]

well its my opinion. I don't consider puntlanders unionists at all , I see them as fellow under cover separatists with the same ambition. I am just informing those who knows nothing about you and that can contribute our own security issues. I don't want to see abgaal or eelay forces defending pintland from my own sln army just because he thinks pintland is a unionist state. this is the one of the biggest reasons you guys wan to remain with the other wanlweyns for a while, you want to use them against us politically and militarily. the mjs troops in xamar were just defending their late warlord cabdullahi yusuf they never went their for somalinimo in fact they brought the greatest somali enemy the xabashis in the heart of muqdishu for the first time in history. many somalis cried because of ciil and shame when they warched xabashis shelling banaadir what a disgrace.

Well you know what they say about opinions, right? Everyone's got one. Your opinion on Puntland is not anymore valid than my 2 year old nephews opinion. If you do not have any evidence to support your opinion, it remains just that..an opinion. I brought you facts, but you are too blinded by your myopic hatred of Puntland (and MJs in particular) too see the truth. Good luck with your independence bid.

Ouch, that was a killer statement!

[Buraanbur]

No I don't know what you mean. Puntland is quick to claim oil rights but when it comes to siding in conflicts, they pick their battles wisely.

Kinda like how you made it a crusade to push Puntland propaganda through this entire forum. You are no different from the Isaaqnimo fearlessly defending their precious Somaliland :Russ:

GTFO with your manifestos and P'Land banter

Oh here you go again with the victimhood. Whose oil are we claiming? Oil was only ever explored in MJ/Osman Mohamud territory, is your insignificant ass going to claim Dharoor now? No one will fight your battles for you so stop crying all over this subforum. We don't give a shit if you consider yourself a Puntlander or not. The fact that we are even having this conversation displays the insignificance of people like you.

Am I meant to get offended by the comparison to Isaaqs? At least they have a state and have their shit together. What do you have?