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Re: Africa, Uncolonized: A Detailed Look at an Alternate Continent
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 12:00 am
by ImNotSomali
Buraanbur wrote:What's your point? Do you doubt the accuracy of the map?
No he doubts the accuracy of the name of the map.
But anyways, fair enough, lets go back to what the topic was about. Africa prior to European colonization.
Re: Africa, Uncolonized: A Detailed Look at an Alternate Continent
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 9:38 am
by Grant
thegoodshepherd wrote:Grant wrote:Somalia is divided into five countries. The Banaadir is Swahili and the Geledi empire ends at the Juuba. How different is that from today?
The Geledi lost out to the Hiraab who took over Mogadishu in the late 1700's. Merca and Barawe are now majority ethnic Somalis instead of Bravanese and Benadiri. I don't think Kismayo existed back then. Basically the coast which was mostly inhabited by minority groups has lost its uniqeness.
http://allssc.com/2013/11/jubaland-and- ... june-1913/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bajuni_people
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somali_Bantu
Kismayu was originally a Bajuni settlement and degaan. During the Medieval period it came under the Ajuuraan and later the Geledi. The Bajunis are a mix of Bantu and Koisan peoples, with some Arab, Persian, Indonesian and Cushitic elements thrown in. The settlement of previously nomadic tribes in the area is relatively recent. The Jareer population only dates from the mid 1840's.
My point about the five divided countries stands. These areas are still divided along lines that are easily recognizable, even with a colonial period. Why do you suppose the federal union is so difficult?
Re: Africa, Uncolonized: A Detailed Look at an Alternate Continent
Posted: Wed May 06, 2015 10:58 am
by Adali
I think Somali speaking territory would be very large, ethnic somalis would be found in South Africa. As somalis guerilla warfare would devistate bantus.