Prlnce wrote:Colonial powers try to make us worship them they couldn't. They tried to make us have inferiority complex they couldn't. They tried to introduce christianity to us we didn't accept it. Now Self-hating Somalis who think they been enlightened are trying to do the job for them.TheMightyNomad wrote:Its the retarded mentality that if we done screw you kiss ur ass or bow down to you we have a superiority complex that needs to be destroyed
this is simply it!
They won't rest until we all have chip on our shoulders, become submissive and lack self-worth. They want us talking like this self-loathing author Narrudin Farah who said:
"somali society is cruel ..we are very cruel to one another…we do not understand kindness to others because no-one has been kind to us. I am often kind to others because people have been kind to me. Were as many somalis life is very difficult. The family is unkind the husband is unkind the father is unkind and there for cruelty becomes the currency of exchange".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02v0l2 ... ow_twitter
These smear merchants never cease to surprise me.
Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
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Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
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Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
Hopefully you will Robotic.Robotic wrote:Rooble: I will raise wonderful children(hopefully with an handsome and intelligent farax) who have a sense of pride(a healthy one) of where they come from. And that they know that they are BLACK.
Although Black is a destructive term especially for Somalis in the Western countries. Getting sucked up by the Black population is a great danger for the Somali community. Would you mind if your offspring married Caribbean/African Americans/West Africans or Jamaicans?
Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
Destructive how? Ultimately, you are responsible for raising your children. And that means that you need to choose the right environment to raise your children in. It really hasn't anything to do with the "violent culture" of these black people I am assuming you are referring to. Letting your children being raised by the society will sure lead to serious consequences, but again it's the responsibility of the parents to make sure they are raised in a healthy environment.RoobleAlWaliid wrote:Hopefully you will Robotic.Robotic wrote:Rooble: I will raise wonderful children(hopefully with an handsome and intelligent farax) who have a sense of pride(a healthy one) of where they come from. And that they know that they are BLACK.
Although Black is a destructive term especially for Somalis in the Western countries. Getting sucked up by the Black population is a great danger for the Somali community. Would you mind if your offspring married Caribbean/African Americans/West Africans or Jamaicans?
If these blacks are good muslims and good people in general, why not? I would absolutely prefer them to marry somalis(better understanding, more in common etc), but I have no problem to let them marry outside as long as they are good people and muslims.
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Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
The guy is a anthropologist well versed in everything about africa and the fact that someone that went to school for it and provides analysis and facts based and sources not only written by somalis themselves but other prolific African authors yet you find what he wrote on somalis with objectivity & not biases is somewhat less and fanatical?Robotic wrote:Nomad:
He is nothing but a fanatic who is "specialized" on "African issues". It's funny that you mention that Africans identify themselves to be black based on how the white man view them, but you just valued Richard Dowden's(who is a white man if I remember correctly) view on somalis just because it resonated with your superior complexity. Pure comedy.
We might as well ask Richard if he considers somalis to be black since you value his opinion so much?
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What the fuck? for him pointing out somalis have self respect and identity compared to other africans which is true and he higlighted the reason why becuz of us being homegenous becuz of us being xenophobic and becuz of the fact we were never enslaved. So they are not mere opinions but rather facts.
First you say that it was written by a somali with superiority complex & therefore not valid. Then you complain about me using a foreign outside narrative. i can effectively conclude that you are delusional. How is taking a european made foreign term ''Black'' and showcasing a schorlarly text
Nope! that is not my question for you to ignore it shows how incompitent you are. Do asians call themselves yellow? Yes or no? i didnt ask if they call themselves Asian! Do indians call themselves black or brown? Dont ignore it show me a source for it as well. becuz reffering to indians as brown in america is racist and calling east asian people japanese,chinese , koreans etc yellow is seen as offenisive & racist!I have never said that, what I said was that I have never seen or heard any african or asian to not claim themselves to be asian or black, with the exception of somalis like you. Go tell other people that you are not black and people will think you are crazy.
i tell people all the time in europe and they agree with me its only retarded people in America that operate with calling people white or black.
People outside of america do not call themselves by color but rather theyre ethincicty & nationality simply-
[/quote]Again, I find it very ironic that you claim other black people(yes, you are black) to value white man opinion when you just did it yourself. Very ironic.![]()
i dont value white mans opinion. I value scholarly facts and ofc with skeptism. i find it ironic that you value african american narrative that derive from theyre own subjugation by the white man, yet come back & complain to me about someone higlighing something thats factual.
Please Show me one example of an Asian person calling themselves white,brown or yellow.
If you cant at least provide me that then your arguments remain without any ammo.
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Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
Very true and I see where you are coming from.Robotic wrote:Destructive how? Ultimately, you are responsible for raising your children. And that means that you need to choose the right environment to raise your children in. It really hasn't anything to do with the "violent culture" of these black people I am assuming you are referring to. Letting your children being raised by the society will sure lead to serious consequences, but again it's the responsibility of the parents to make sure they are raised in a healthy environment.RoobleAlWaliid wrote:Hopefully you will Robotic.Robotic wrote:Rooble: I will raise wonderful children(hopefully with an handsome and intelligent farax) who have a sense of pride(a healthy one) of where they come from. And that they know that they are BLACK.
Although Black is a destructive term especially for Somalis in the Western countries. Getting sucked up by the Black population is a great danger for the Somali community. Would you mind if your offspring married Caribbean/African Americans/West Africans or Jamaicans?
If these blacks are good muslims and good people in general, why not? I would absolutely prefer them to marry somalis(better understanding, more in common etc), but I have no problem to let them marry outside as long as they are good people and muslims.
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Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
What is with these somalis? if they wanna live a gaalo life do so individually but why they have to comment on somalis in general and try to push theyre own evil agenda on to us?Prlnce wrote:Prlnce wrote:Colonial powers try to make us worship them they couldn't. They tried to make us have inferiority complex they couldn't. They tried to introduce christianity to us we didn't accept it. Now Self-hating Somalis who think they been enlightened are trying to do the job for them.TheMightyNomad wrote:Its the retarded mentality that if we done screw you kiss ur ass or bow down to you we have a superiority complex that needs to be destroyed
this is simply it!
They won't rest until we all have chip on our shoulders, become submissive and lack self-worth. They want us talking like this self-loathing author Narrudin Farah who said:
"somali society is cruel ..we are very cruel to one another…we do not understand kindness to others because no-one has been kind to us. I am often kind to others because people have been kind to me. Were as many somalis life is very difficult. The family is unkind the husband is unkind the father is unkind and there for cruelty becomes the currency of exchange".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02v0l2 ... ow_twitter
These smear merchants never cease to surprise me.
Somalis are not cruel we have often been described as humorus people and take kindly to people who show no malice towards us.
To think that our noble ancestors are looking down on us. We need to speak out against these afrocentric feminist social justice somalis and not have them dominate the narrative of the somalis and expose theyre lies. Our voices shall not stay silent.
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Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
We can go back and forth, but it doesn't matter. Somalis are black and the whole world consider them to be blacks. Again, go tell people that you are not black and you will be looked as being crazy.TheMightyNomad wrote:Nope!
http://www.quora.com/Why-is-yellow-an-o ... t-as-black
and
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... tones.html
case closed!
You are black. Period.
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Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
LOOL! CLASSIC you lost! You want somalis to call themselves black yet you see it is offensive or racist to call asians yellow !Robotic wrote:We can go back and forth, but it doesn't matter. Somalis are black and the whole world consider them to be blacks. Again, go tell people that you are not black and you will be looked as being crazy.TheMightyNomad wrote:Nope!
http://www.quora.com/Why-is-yellow-an-o ... t-as-black
and
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/ ... tones.html
case closed!
You are black. Period.
See
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/inde ... 222AAZ5yuu
i have told people all the time that im not black people here in europe agree and they dont care! Black & white only applies to dumb americans it does not exist outside of america.
Here in europe its offensive to call someone either white or black. People in general only identify with theyre ethnicity and nationality!
Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
Nomad:
It's not offensive to say that some asians(especially chinese people) do have a kind of yellow hue to their skin color. But they are called "asians" in general. They DO acknowledge themselves as "asians" so stop trying to twist it.
LIES. I live in Europe and if I would have said to people that I am not black, people would think I am crazy. LOL!
LIES, once again. It's have never been offensive to call someone "black" or "white".
Nomad, you are black. Deal.
It's not offensive to say that some asians(especially chinese people) do have a kind of yellow hue to their skin color. But they are called "asians" in general. They DO acknowledge themselves as "asians" so stop trying to twist it.
LIES. I live in Europe and if I would have said to people that I am not black, people would think I am crazy. LOL!
LIES, once again. It's have never been offensive to call someone "black" or "white".
Nomad, you are black. Deal.
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Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
LOOL! look at you trying to evade things. It is offensive and they are not classified yellow! Ur opinion is not worth shit since i showed you articles and sources. They sue you if you call them yellow or potray them yellow.Robotic wrote:Nomad:
It's not offensive to say that some asians(especially chinese people) do have a kind of yellow hue to their skin color. But they are called "asians" in general. They DO acknowledge themselves as "asians" so stop trying to twist it.
LIES. I live in Europe and if I would have said to people that I am not black, people would think I am crazy. LOL!
LIES, once again. It's have never been offensive to call someone "black" or "white".
Nomad, you are black. Deal.
Why are they called asians in general? Asia is continent yet east asians have monopoly of that word. Why not classify indians on paper as asians?
You are the one trying to twist and avoid things. Tell me why they dont call themselves yellow?
Black is accepted amongst jamaicans in UK and African Americans. You know the history of that term!
not in scandinavia its racist to call someone black or white! You probably live in england! forgot to say england does not count since they basically invented the term.
here the word black in norway is racist and offensive! its a slur
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/svarting its the same in danmark sweden germany spain etc. Britain doesnt count!
Nope in europe people dont care for the term white or black! you can deny it all you want, but people refer to themselves as theye ethnicity and nationality here in europe (except for UK)
i have brought sources, facts and links! All you have brought me is ur opinions! Once you learn to seperate opinions from facts then you ill continue this discussion
Honey wake up you are not black , you are just somali deal with it! Ur language is somali ur culture is somali you look somali ur history is somali and ur ancestry is somalis. You are just simply somali.
Ur ancestors never named you black they named you somali! MAjority of somalis have never identified with it so its ur loss!
Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
I've said it before and I'll say it again:
Robotic needs to be adopted. Her thinking process is so deeply poisoned that only a benevolent Somali adopting her could perhaps change her mindset.
Robotic needs to be adopted. Her thinking process is so deeply poisoned that only a benevolent Somali adopting her could perhaps change her mindset.
Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
You're being deliberately manipulative. Asia is simply a continent and identifying yourself with a continent is foolish.Robotic wrote:Nomad:
It's not offensive to say that some asians(especially chinese people) do have a kind of yellow hue to their skin color. But they are called "asians" in general. They DO acknowledge themselves as "asians" so stop trying to twist it.
LIES. I live in Europe and if I would have said to people that I am not black, people would think I am crazy. LOL!
LIES, once again. It's have never been offensive to call someone "black" or "white".
Nomad, you are black. Deal.
Hence why you won't hear a Yemeni Arab refer to himself as "Asian" despite the fact that he lives on the Asian continent. He would call himself a Middle Easterner, because that's the region he comes from and that's who he identifies with.
In the same way, Somalis and Ethiopians could easily refer to themselves as Horn Africans, not this bullshit "Black" label which was created in America and which refers solely to the descendants of the American Slave Trade.
Re: Why do people mistake self-respect with superiority complex?
Robotic has an inferiority complex. Hence why she insists on identifying herself with people who have nothing to do with her.
I can love and respect other racial groups without identifying myself as one of them. For example I have a deep respect for Malcolm X, yet at the same time I don't identify myself as AA. I have a deep respect for Ibn Khaldun, even though I know I'm not a North African.
I can think of a million examples. Disassociation is not hatred. It's simply the assertion of one's self identity.
And I refuse to allow my Somali people to be categorized according to racist American terminology.
I can love and respect other racial groups without identifying myself as one of them. For example I have a deep respect for Malcolm X, yet at the same time I don't identify myself as AA. I have a deep respect for Ibn Khaldun, even though I know I'm not a North African.
I can think of a million examples. Disassociation is not hatred. It's simply the assertion of one's self identity.
And I refuse to allow my Somali people to be categorized according to racist American terminology.
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