current friction...

[SiennaEarth]

1. People should be given freedom to have discussions even if it gets hot and heated as long as they don't insult family members or the dead or Islam also people should be respectful of other people's beliefs and not name call or use bad language.

2. This place has become too over moderated also mods are too involved with members about moderating. They should just do their jobs in silence and take part in topics like any normal member.

3. Members should get warnings before being banned.

4. Trashy topics should get deleted and trashy people should be banned this isn't topix I.e the chiefkimbo guy that always posts about being sexually aroused and how he is sexually attracted to his aunt.

5. Discussing Islam or other beliefs shouldn't be a crime on here as long as there is no vulgar language.

Also warya please do something about the PM feature. We should be able to block people we don't want to message us from messaging us.

[Bandit]

Mods, I can't believe you banned my cousin, SolidCamel. Might I add, he's more of a neutral member. Even more so than yours truly. He did nothing but make an inquiry about why Kaafiye and Gegiroor were banned. Although I find this rather upsetting, I will commend you on banning ChiefKimbo. He needed to be let go for mischief making.

His was band few hours ago by fah

[Buraanbur]

Mods, I can't believe you banned my cousin, SolidCamel. Might I add, he's more of a neutral member. Even more so than yours truly. He did nothing but make an inquiry about why Kaafiye and Gegiroor were banned. Although I find this rather upsetting, I will commend you on banning ChiefKimbo. He needed to be let go for mischief making.

ChiefKimbo was banned by Fah
Solidcamel was banned by LJ
Gegiroor and Kaafiye were banned by Lama

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Fah is the only sane on out of the three of them. He should remain webmaster, but the rest gotta go.

[26June1960]

I don't think you're genuine in fixing the problems on this website. This forum would cease to exist without its members, so give the people what they want and remove those two moderators.

Instead of addressing my statement, he questioned me whether I was a new member or an old member. What did that had to do with my statement regarding the issue at hand? Clearly, Waryaa isn't genuine about fixing the problem. Expect more members to leave this forum.

[Buraanbur]

I don't think you're genuine in fixing the problems on this website. This forum would cease to exist without its members, so give the people what they want and remove those two moderators.

Instead of addressing my statement, he questioned me whether I was a new member or an old member. What did that had to do with my statement regarding the issue at hand? Clearly, Waryaa isn't genuine about fixing the problem. Expect more members leaving this forum.

I don't think he's genuine at all. He's on here to make excuses for his two minions, but the problems on this forum will persist as long as Lama & Lama's shadow are allowed to run this place like the Soup Nazi.

[waryaa]

SiennaEarth,

26, you already voiced your opinion. my question was just a follow-up and didn't mean a lot.

[AbdiWahab252]

The Mods need to crack down harder and Waryaa must stand by the Politburo. You can't maintain order among the Somalis by second guessing your Lieutenants.

[jalaaludin5]

To put it bluntly, I never though I'll see the day where Muslim brothers who love the Deen ( regardless of their political or clan affiliation) will feel they have to walk on egg shells around Atheist, sodomite sympathisers/defenders and Islamaphobes.

To undermine the core tenets of Islam is the name of the game and so far as things stand they leading the score. They have a trump card by the name of Lamagodle who's feelings and attitude towards Islam is well known. Then we have dr yalaxow who see fit to interpret the Quran anyway he wants to. Closely followed by leftist who twist and pervert the Islam and even think he is Good enough to reform and reinterpret the Quran. A condescending Individual who's ignorance is clouded by his Immeasurable arrogance.

The Mods could have handle this issue with ease but instead opted to threaten members if their new list of DONTs are not followed down to a T.

Don't call anyone a kafir or atheist or else.

And they even coined a phrase for any Muslim who felt the need to speak (for) about Islam. Keligi-Muslim. Doesn't really take a genius to work out the thinking of such person , not to mention the desperation in that phrase. School yard reverse psychology and a poor attempt to silence the rest.


Basicaly, the majority (Muslims) have been left to feel second class citizen in their on park (Somalinet).

So can we take our shoes off and relax our feet or do we just have to endure (anti-Islam camp) like a disease without a cure or are you gonna take steps to purge this place?

Wa bilahi tawfiq.
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[SiennaEarth]

To put it bluntly, I never though I'll see the day where Muslim brothers who love the Deen ( regardless of their political or clan affiliation) will feel they have to walk on egg shells around Atheist, sodomite sympathisers/defenders and Islamaphobes.

To undermine the core tenets of Islam is the name of the game and so far as things stand they leading the score. They have a trump card by the name of Lamagodle who's feelings and attitude towards Islam is well known. Then we have dr yalaxow who see fit to interpret the Quran anyway he wants to. Closely followed by leftist who twist and pervert the Islam and even think he is Good enough to reform and reinterpret the Quran. A condescending Individual who's ignorance is clouded by his Immeasurable arrogance.

The Mods could have handle this issue with ease but instead opted to threaten members if their new list of DONTs are not followed down to a T.

Don't call anyone a kafir or atheist or else.

And they even coined a phrase for any Muslim who felt the need to speak (for) about Islam. Keligi-Muslim. Doesn't really take a genius to work out the thinking of such person , not to mention the desperation in that phrase. School yard reverse psychology and a poor attempt to silence the rest.


Basicaly, the majority (Muslims) have been left to feel second class citizen in their on park (Somalinet).

So can we take our shoes off and relax our feet or do we just have to endure (anti-Islam camp) like a disease without a cure or are you gonna take steps to purge this place?

Wa bilahi tawfiq.
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PREACH!!

[SaciidAyanleh]

FAH bans without warning as well. Take Buraanbur's word for it, though.

[Cherine]

FAH is a Mod.

[Buraanbur]

FAH bans without warning as well. Take Buraanbur's word for it, though.

Sxb, at this point you might well set up a fan club for me and anoint yourself the President.

Jalaludin,

I couldn't have said it better myself. I also find it offensive when Lamagoodle tries to speak on behalf of non-Salafi Muslims. If you don't agree with his religious views he will deem you a kaligii Muslim Takfiri Salafi and maybe even bless you with a ban. Wtf.

[Kareem99]

Waryaa, since you asked for the feedback, here it is.

You asked: do I feel at home when I come to Somalinet? I did, once upon a time. With all the things that were wrong with Somalinet, the abuse of power was the final straw that broke the camel's back. You can't really enjoy your interactions with fellow Somalis on here with a virtual
gag-order, knowing that you risk a ban if you say something that remotely opposes Lamagoodle's views.

Interestingly, he and I share many, many views. Pro-education, anti-qabyaalad, #soomaalibaanahay, and a general disdain towards all types
of extremism (whether it be social, racial, or religious). But when he came out with a grandiose display of his mod powers, with his symbolic "warran" that will strike anyone who exhibits a dissenting view... honestly, I don't know whether disgusting or laughable is the more appropriate adjective. You may ask why I haven't brought that up with him, and the answer is simple: through the various exchanges he's had with those who disagreed with him, I haven't seen him concede even once that his actions might be, at the very least, slightly misguided. He has this "I know better than you" attitude with most of his exchanges, and because he's old enough to be my father, I let it slide. So why even bother with him, when he's "always right"? He's not very receptive to constructive criticism, so I decided not to bother in the first place.

He has gone against the very beliefs he so ardently propagated (namely those of freedom of speech/expression) when he took out
his "warran" and proclaimed himself a dictator, the judge, jury, and executioner. You said, "Moderating is like being a judge, we cannot quarrel with someone publicly and ban them at the same time." That sounds exactly like Lamagoodle. Honestly, he was much better without his dictator's cloak.

I agree with many, many posters on here who said this place is going downhill, as a few quality posters have left. Since you have a system of moderating these forums (however faulty it is), I suggest you develop a system of moderating your moderators. Clearly, Lamagoodle's actions have been garnered such negative reception that it propelled you to start a discussion to address this "friction." I hope you take everyone's feedback into consideration in your quest to make this a better place. But for me, it's reach the point where this place is more negative (especially with the self-admitted dictator on the prowl) than it is positive, and hence I'll depart.

I'd like to leave on a positive note though. Somalinet has put me in touch with wonderful people (including some fantastic mods): people who educated me about Somalis in the Galbeed and Kenya, people who educated me about various aspects of our culture (poems, gastronomy, and everything in between), people who provided laughs through Somali jokes, and (above all) people who evoked feelings of Somali pride. Many are gone, but some are still here. You all know who you are. Eid Mubaarak to everyone.

[jalaaludin5]

Another thing that is blatantly as clear as daylight is that, what ever chaos that is currently taking place is a direct reflection of what's going behind the Big door (mods corner).

Don't you guys communicate?

Mods are no different than the members and they should try their best not to act on qabyaalad related complains. For example: I got banned by a reer hebel mod so I'll take my complain to a reer hebel mod whos more likely to sympathise on the basis of tolnimo.

And why would fah try undermine Le Justicier on the forum when he could have easily send him a PM? Because that is the kind of behaviour that some members will capitalise on.

Lastly, we appreciate the difficult job the mods have and trying to balance all this issues and still manage to keep your head above water is by no means a small feat.

We understand.

But its no excuse so get on with it and without putting too finer point on it...You guys better take our side.

[waryaa]

awahab, the whole problem stems from our inability to deal with term violators consistently. When one of us tries to clean things up, ppl gang up on him and start hateful posts messages. Many times, we let those topics stay till they die out on their own. I don't see why somebody's ban should be explained to everyone else. We both know that LJ does more work than most of us combined and he is now hated by many. It was like that when nabs was more active and before her ppl hated screw. You do more moderation and term violators will hate u.

The reason I closed the last thread with over 80 posts and started this this one is to put the ball down so that the mods and regular members can exchange views constructively.

It is getting close to my ifftar time - adios and happy eid!