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Arcturus wrote:
Remind me when Somalia was anything other then a slave nation?

Is it by anychance when somaliland was involved?

Any other time outside 1960-1991?

Somalia will always be nothing unless others hold its hand.
stop playing boy.. Somalia existed for thousands of years and this is the most shameful period in our history.
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GAMES wrote:Actually Somalia has always been a homogeneous society. One language, ethnicity, culture and religion.
Please elaborate brother. There are many different cultures and dialects spoken in the region. We all have different origins and ancestors from completely different places. As a result the only thing I can think of that fits the idea of an ethnic group are the different tribes like isaaq, hawiye, darod, barawe, jareerweyn, and so on. But we do all have the same religion and are brothers and sisters of one another in Islam so we shouldn't have hatred for each other inshallah. :up:
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First time I seen Daayeer post outside the confinements of his two threads
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There are diversity but it doesn't excuse whatever has been going on.

The diversity in Somalia is artificial. Even the tribes thing is mostly artificial. It is possible for one to be born of tribe A while having most of his/her family belonging to tribe B just because his/her father, paternal grandfather, and so on etc belongs to tribe A.

I would go on and say that most Somalis' family line have been diluted enough to state that any tribe specific characteristics doesn't exist. There is definite north/south divide but not much more than that.

This is pretty much same as giving yourself a red badge and hating on anyone who doesn't have red badge.

What's even worse is that we allowed foreigners to exploit those artificial divisions and today, we're still allowing them to exploit that.
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Ethnic diversity ka xaggee? Jareer and reer Xamar share your culture and language and they're the only people who are not original Somalis. Somalia is the most homogeneous country in Africa.
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TheCadaanGuy wrote:There are diversity but it doesn't excuse whatever has been going on.

The diversity in Somalia is artificial. Even the tribes thing is mostly artificial. It is possible for one to be born of tribe A while having most of his/her family belonging to tribe B just because his/her father, paternal grandfather, and so on etc belongs to tribe A.

I would go on and say that most Somalis' family line have been diluted enough to state that any tribe specific characteristics doesn't exist. There is definite north/south divide but not much more than that.

This is pretty much same as giving yourself a red badge and hating on anyone who doesn't have red badge.

What's even worse is that we allowed foreigners to exploit those artificial divisions and today, we're still allowing them to exploit that.
As salamu alaykum, are you Muslim? As for the rest of your post I have no idea what you are talking about. There are huge differences between the tribes in both appearance and culture. I myself come from a tribe that has Arabian roots and am closer to other Arabs culturally and by blood than to other tribes especially those who have always lived in the South. I find it strange how a white ajnabi like you can comment so boldly on our culture but all you have really done was exposed your ignorance! :-@
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Anigu inaan sheeko walba ka qayb qaato baan jeclahay , laakiin waxa dhacda marmar in qofkii topiga furay isagoon is ogayn , hortey xidho:lol:
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Somalis are too shamed to admit that they are one ethnicity. Cause any other ethnic groups if given the chance to rule their own homogeneous country would prosper lol, but the country turned into the anus of Africa.
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RoobleAlWaliid wrote:Somalis are too shamed to admit that they are one ethnicity. Cause any other ethnic groups if given the chance to rule their own homogeneous country would prosper lol, but the country turned into the anus of Africa.
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Mahamoud81 wrote:
TheCadaanGuy wrote:There are diversity but it doesn't excuse whatever has been going on.

The diversity in Somalia is artificial. Even the tribes thing is mostly artificial. It is possible for one to be born of tribe A while having most of his/her family belonging to tribe B just because his/her father, paternal grandfather, and so on etc belongs to tribe A.

I would go on and say that most Somalis' family line have been diluted enough to state that any tribe specific characteristics doesn't exist. There is definite north/south divide but not much more than that.

This is pretty much same as giving yourself a red badge and hating on anyone who doesn't have red badge.

What's even worse is that we allowed foreigners to exploit those artificial divisions and today, we're still allowing them to exploit that.
As salamu alaykum, are you Muslim? As for the rest of your post I have no idea what you are talking about. There are huge differences between the tribes in both appearance and culture. I myself come from a tribe that has Arabian roots and am closer to other Arabs culturally and by blood than to other tribes especially those who have always lived in the South. I find it strange how a white ajnabi like you can comment so boldly on our culture but all you have really done was exposed your ignorance! :-@
I'm Somali.

None of what I said was untrue.

It's quite apparent you didn't read my post fully. You spoke of the blood, I explained that one can have blood that mostly belongs to tribe B but yet s/he still belongs to tribe A just because his father, paternal grandfather, etc just happened to be from tribe B. This doesn't matter anyway as Somali's blood has been diluted with neighbouring clans enough times that the differences are mostly geographic now.

Arab roots doesn't matter when your neighbouring tribes also has them. The main point is that the differences are mostly geographical.

End of the day, Somalis are still one ethnic, one culture, and one language. The tribe thing are mostly artificial.
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RoobleAlWaliid wrote:Somalis are too shamed to admit that they are one ethnicity. Cause any other ethnic groups if given the chance to rule their own homogeneous country would prosper lol, but the country turned into the anus of Africa.
Again nobody's ashamed of anything here , you just need to read through . Furthermore ethnic homogeneity is not a recipe for success , countless examples can be shown on both sides of the paradigm . Stangers can become better business partners than brothers , most people are aware of that. If you wanna compare your situation my somali brothers and sisters to that of other nations and countries , STUDY THEIR HISTORY !

ignorance and self loathing , a bad combination
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Somalia is the 16th most ethnically diverse country in world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... sity_level

it's more diverse than All Europeans and the whole of Asian&Arab countries COMBINED

> we have cultural & linguistic homogeneity but we physically diverse.
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Somali is never ever going to get out of this hole
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inaXasan wrote:Somalia is the 16th most ethnically diverse country in world.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of ... sity_level

it's more diverse than All Europeans and the whole of Asian&Arab countries COMBINED

> we have cultural & linguistic homogeneity but we physically diverse.
This is very true, I found Sheeqaal and Isaaqs are bigger and larger them other Somalia's while Habargidir are the skinniest Somali clan Americans nicknamed skinnies in 1993. Phycical difference are only noticed when you meet isaaq or Sheeqaal and then see skinny as HG alikes
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