C/Yusuf has killed more of my clansmen then Faroole and Gas combined could ever hope for, I am not consumed with hate and will give credit when they are due, if you go through my posts I was Anti ICU as well as Anti Qeybdiid my own uncle, the former because they were idiots and playing right into the hands of the Ethiopians, the latter because it was about revenge for him, he almost lost his life in the ICU Vs Warlords battle in Xamar and lost a lot of men, then when he retired in Gaalkacyo, they came after him there as well so he had no choice but to ally with C/Yusuf and the Ethiopians, he is a wanted man and can't flee to another country, sacad were split 50/50 on both sides, I supported neither and you can see why because it was mostly Hawiye dying both sides.
C/Yusuf when he was setting up Puntland met with uncles of mine, he wanted sacad to be part of it, he made a lot of concessions that included vice presidency and 1/4 of minister posts but the timing was very bad at that time, despite the refusal, he didn't meddle in your affairs or try to foment strive like Faroole and Gaas did, he had good relations, when we were busy capturing Kismaayo and our man were fighting on multiple fronts overstretched, he could have very easily took advantage and attacked but instead signed peace treaty which held to the dismay of Gaas whom famously rebuked him in the 90's and Yeey's famous response was " Your kids have milk in the fridge, our's don't"
His only problem was his insatiable hunguri to become president by any means necessary, he wasn't greedy, he controlled his people with an Iron fist, before Ali Mahdi was appointed he met with Ceydiid wanting the PM post promising to bring the whole of Darood, but Ceydiid in his biggest mistake refused and insisted on TUUR whom didn't control Hargaisa, he was a uniting force that wanted what's best for the country, he formed alliances with everyone, the only Darood president to win in 4.5 election in which today MJ are threatening secession over rather then following his foot prints
If he were alive today, he would have probably killed Faroole and Gaas for what they have reduced Puntland too and how they have managed to turn everyone against them, ciise riyoole tribe of faroole never even talked during his reign, when C/Yusuf was president of Puntland, bosaaso port was serving not just the whole of koonfur but also mandheere in Kenya, that's the heights he took them, they lost the fast majority of that under these buffoons, if they had someone like him, no doubt in my mind they would rule Somalia, but he came at a very bad time with all these warlords & using Ethiopian's which made him even less popular, but he didn't have no other choice. I call a spade a spade sxb that's the difference between us.
Togdeer wrote:We welcome anyone who is against the fake unelected government in xamar.
the only legitimate gov in somalia now is the hawiye gov which controls the south of the country,we dont care about PL and SL,let them eat eacother.
The SFG is struggling to control half of Moqdisho, what makes you think they can control anywhere else. SFG are a bunch of dameers elected by the IC. No one voted for them. While Somaliland has functioning government and a voting system. Now you tell me who is legit.
Togdeer wrote:We welcome anyone who is against the fake unelected government in xamar.
the only legitimate gov in somalia now is the hawiye gov which controls the south of the country,we dont care about PL and SL,let them eat eacother.
The SFG is struggling to control half of Moqdisho, what makes you think they can control anywhere else. SFG are a bunch of dameers elected by the IC. No one voted for them. While Somaliland has functioning government and a voting system. Now you tell me who is legit.
there is no somalialand,it is called northern somalia,they dont exist.
AwRastaale wrote:Sacad and warlord Qaybadiid didn't play much role.
Abdillahi Yusuf, Gen. Gabre, Mohamed Ali Geedi, and Mohamed Habib "Dheere" did all the damage and their main experiment guinea pig were HG.
This is more of a response to those reading your post so they know the real back ground, Jelle plan to get HG to flee from Mogadishu backfired spectacular remember an abgaal exposed his plans and taped him secretly, HG knowing it's coming took most of their wealth and belongings to Ceelasha Biyaha in advance, the Ethiopian's don't discriminate or know anything about qabiil, it's about survival, they were literally shelling wherever they suspected madfac was coming from, these included a lot of Mudulood neighbourhoods, they are the majority in Xamar
This lead to an even larger exodus to ceelasha biyah by majority mudulood, but also murursade and others just as Jeele/Gheedi were trying to convince the Ethiopian's that ICU was at ceelasha biyah in the hope HG is rooted out of that place then eventually the city, it backfired because muduloods that were being shelled also fled to ceelasha biyah as sheling is indiscriminate, the wealthier HG went to Afgooye, the new comers suffered more because they left everything behind unlike HG, this turned mudulood pretty much against those two guys and subsequently their clandestine plan flopped, the plan was just between them, fighting broke out in most districts against Xabashi's, supply lines were cut everywhere, in the end they volunteered to leave and asked for free passage and have never come back since.
C/Yusuf had nothing to do with this, he tried to stop the Ethiopian shelling Villa Somalia and got slapped for it, the people guiding the blind Ethiopian's were Gheedi and Jeele, when all this was happening Melez Zenawi was busy making peace between Gen Gabre and C/Yusuf due to that very public incident that embarrassed Somalis as well as the Ethiopians, Gheedi was running the show in this period, he knows the city.
^I have never known such hypocrisy, crying about clan-system, but advocating a system which they have failed to implement for 18 years in their single qabiil state, but are adamant to export and enforce on to others, until Somalida runta la isku sheego oh cadaalad lagu dhagmo things are forever going to be like this, and it looks you will be joining the club soon with your internal injustices and external support for terrorism
It's coming folks, the complete balkanization of the fmr somali republic is upon us and I for one believe it will be for the better. We can respectfully live with each other in peace and harmony as neighbors or stay at our current predicament for the forseeable future.