Hargeisa has become a multicultural city

[LightAtNight]

I support multi-culturalism because diversity brings innovation and different ways of doing things. It will also give foreigners purpose to be in SL and SL purpose to host others----wadanka dhiisa ama baxa.

But right now we don't have skilled migrants we are attracting the lowcasts of other nations. The rejects of India, Pakistan or whatever there is going to SL because they become highly valued members. People treat them more than they are or bring to the table.

I do celebrate migrants from Singapore, Taiwan, and other highly skilled places and even Indian programmers/IT specialists not only as programmers but as teachers and Deans as well. A lot of Indians are educated and deserve to be treated with their credentials.

A week visit from a Taiwanese professional is more valuable than 100 Arabs who spend 10 years in Somaliland. I still remember the year their medics visited SL.


Maxaynu ka faidnay oo ka baranaay? Sending our students to Taiwan is more asset than them going to Turkey or Malaysia

I support skilled migration into Somaliland and I support introducing new stock into the habro camp.

I don't support taking in the untouchables and refugees with no skills. Unskilled refugees can be taken in once Somaliland becomes skilled and self-sustainable nation but in its infancy it should sought after highly skilled individuals including Landers abroad.

On this forum we have many highly educated individuals and it's their obligation to contribute others cert just to make a wage/salary is useless. It is your Islamic obligation xata to teach and share your knowledge same way you send money back to beloved ones.

Wa cibado. Wa sadaqo. Wa wajiib. Bahasha bariis iyo baasto ku cun uun maha.

Lets test your "support" for multiculturalism, would you support skilled bantu in Hargeisa or do you just prefer non-African immigrants? Are you hiding an inferiority complex behind your false rhetoric of pride

[AwRastaale]

No I do not support Bantus.

Australia and many Western countries have multi-cultural policies but they always put whites, especially Anglo-Saxons, first. For example Australia had what was known as 10 Pound Poms. British nationals were allowed to buy tickets to Australia for only ten pounds while everyone else paid thousands.

So my multicultural policy is based on preferences for example I prefer Singaporean migrants over Arabs, Indians over Chinese (mainland aka Han), Taiwanese over Malaysians, Australians over Americans (Americans have regional interest where as Australia's sphere of influence is mainly the Pacific region) and so forth.

I don't need to import Bantus because I don't want them to populate with my people. Their culture, physical appearance and so forth is not favorable to our cultural norms. They are indeed deemed ugly and it will remain that way.

Even amongst Ethiopians I prefer certain groups over others and within the Somalis is the same.

Bantus don't have much to bring to the table. They have no history of indigenous innovation.

[LightAtNight]

No I do not support Bantus.

Australia and many Western countries have multi-cultural policies but they always put whites, especially Anglo-Saxons, first. For example Australia had what was known as 10 Pound Poms. British nationals were allowed to buy tickets to Australia for only ten pounds while everyone else paid thousands.

So my multicultural policy is based on preferences for example I prefer Singaporean migrants over Arabs, Indians over Chinese (mainland aka Han), Taiwanese over Malaysians, Australians over Americans (Americans have regional interest where as Australia's sphere of influence is mainly the Pacific region) and so forth.

I don't need to import Bantus because I don't want them to populate with my people. Their culture, physical appearance and so forth is not favorable to our cultural norms. They are indeed deemed ugly and it will remain that way.

Even amongst Ethiopians I prefer certain groups over others and within the Somalis is the same.

Bantus don't have much to bring to the table. They have no history of indigenous innovation.

but when you say 'support multiculturalism' you make seem as though youre accepting of all people from different cultures as long as they can bring something to Somaliland, but what your actually saying is we want non African immigrants to enrich our backward and less advanced society, ileen waanku ogahay thats what your thinking, you have an inferiority complex.

Your point about Autsralia is absolutely misleading, Australia has one of the highest non-white populations of the western world, if they were favouring cadaans as you say, these other nonwhite people that live there now would not be present in such big numbers. Am sure there is some degree of cunsurinimo but not as blatant as your making t seem. By the way the 10 point system that Australia uses does not mean thats other people cant emigrate there, they can, even if their not Anglo saxon, as long as they have the skills Australia needs, which is fair and understandable. The point about the cost of flights although important is irrelevant in the larger scheme of things, If someone was making a life decision of whether to move to Australia or not, I don't think the cost of a ticket would have a bearing on their decision

[jalaaludin5]

So let me see if I got this right

One habar + one habar + one habar = Cosmopolitan?

Only in lalaland
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[AwRastaale]

Sxb you have no idea what you talking about.

Australia may have many Asian migrants but it is still white dominated society. Bringing the Asians is just very strategic-----trade relations with Asian bloc.

The ten pound Poms was not driven by hatred but by choice and their preferred option to repopulate Australia with more whites from the motherland (Britain).

That is common sense. It is no different than me if I was to repopulate Haud with Somalis from Somaliland, Somalia or Djibouti than the Ethiopian Highlands.

And the Ten Pound Poms was whites and was known as White Australian policy.

Assisted migrants were generally obliged to remain in Australia for two years after arrival, or alternatively refund the cost of their assisted passage. If they chose to travel back to Britain, the cost of the journey was at least £120 (in 1945 pounds, equivalent to £4,625 in 2016), a large sum in those days and one that most could not afford.[4] It was also possible for many British persons to migrate to Australia on a non-assisted basis before the early 1970s, although most travelled as Ten Pounders. This was part of the wider White Australia Policy.

Every country has favorable race behind the curtains and promotes that while maintaining the overall image of 'multi-culturalism'.

It is all about how they place them, where in the ranks and hierarchy of control these races sit and who controls the main avenues of wealth, influence, policies and interests of the nation.

While Africans, Asians and others are freely roaming in Australia------they have little say in the grande picture of Australia and the policies drafted behind the closed doors.

There is no need for me to import Bantus who themselves need skilled migrants in their countries.

[Snailland12]

the big problem for us in somliland and indeed all somalis, is that while our numbers are very small, the surrounding countries are rapidly expanding,

in 2050 ethiopia will be 250 million, while kenya will be 95 million

we must start now, in introducing harsh immigration polices, and walls before its to late

[LightAtNight]

Sxb you have no idea what you talking about.

Australia may have many Asian migrants but it is still white dominated society. Bringing the Asians is just very strategic-----trade relations with Asian bloc.

The ten pound Poms was not driven by hatred but by choice and their preferred option to repopulate Australia with more whites from the motherland (Britain).

That is common sense. It is no different than me if I was to repopulate Haud with Somalis from Somaliland, Somalia or Djibouti than the Ethiopian Highlands.

And the Ten Pound Poms was whites and was known as White Australian policy.

Assisted migrants were generally obliged to remain in Australia for two years after arrival, or alternatively refund the cost of their assisted passage. If they chose to travel back to Britain, the cost of the journey was at least £120 (in 1945 pounds, equivalent to £4,625 in 2016), a large sum in those days and one that most could not afford.[4] It was also possible for many British persons to migrate to Australia on a non-assisted basis before the early 1970s, although most travelled as Ten Pounders. This was part of the wider White Australia Policy.

Every country has favorable race behind the curtains and promotes that while maintaining the overall image of 'multi-culturalism'.

It is all about how they place them, where in the ranks and hierarchy of control these races sit and who controls the main avenues of wealth, influence, policies and interests of the nation.

While Africans, Asians and others are freely roaming in Australia------they have little say in the grande picture of Australia and the policies drafted behind the closed doors.

There is no need for me to import Bantus who themselves need skilled migrants in their countries.

There is no debate about whether Australia is a white dominated country, am sure they as any race would prioritise their own in their immigration policies, but they don't exclude any specific race from coming to Australia, including Bantus, as long as they are a good quality and skilled immigrant who can contribute to Austrailas economy.

[LightAtNight]

the big problem for us in somliland and indeed all somalis, is that while our numbers are very small, the surrounding countries are rapidly expanding,

in 2050 ethiopia will be 250 million, while kenya will be 95 million

we must start now, in introducing harsh immigration polices, and walls before its to late

Why is Somalia worth saving? What do they contribute to this world or even to the Horn? Nothing, only murun, dagaal, kalaqebsanaan iyo naceyb. If Somalis are overtaken by the neighbouring populations maybe something new and better will emerge.

[AwRastaale]

There is no debate about whether Australia is a white dominated country, am sure they as any race would prioritise their own in their immigration policies, but they don't exclude any specific race from coming to Australia, including Bantus, as long as they are a good quality and skilled immigrant who can contribute to Austrailas economy.

Okay and I'm glad you stated that. If you need my first comment I said initially we need such skilled people before allowing entry of others including refugees.

Now my question for you.

When did Australia began bringing in whites and when did the first Bantus or even blacks arrive?

Why didn't the first boat load of migrants come from all over the world?

Australia first imported whites and built the foundations on its own heritage and history. Once that was solid, it opened the gate to others and still restricted them.

Even today it takes migrants from certain countries and favors some over others.

Hint

From 1900 to 1911, Australian migration policy and preferred countries



2000 (100 years later). You can see now that they felt white Australia was strong enough, they eased up on British intake and Ireland all together was pushed out off the equation. Now they began introducing new countries mainly Asia mostly for low jobs, refugees, etc. The early Chinese came as miners in Victoria's rich gold fields such as Bendigo, Ballarat.



Don't be naive and be fooled by "multi-cultural' tourism tag.

[LightAtNight]

When Australia was restricting immigrants in the early years, it wasn't with the intention of first establishing foundations and the later opening the flood gates. It was simply part of the prevailing racist attitude of the time towards none white people generally around the world. The world was also much more peaceful, not many people from the third world were willing nor did they have the intention of risking their lives to go to Autrialia. They were more interested in staking a future in their newly independent countries .... marka sxb your the one who does not know what his talking about

[AwRastaale]

Looks like your trying to make excuses to compensate for your lack of awareness about the world around us.

e of the motives for creating a federated Australia was the need for a common immigration policy. There was much resistance to Chinese immigration and the use of indentured workers from New Caledonia to work in the Queensland sugar industry.

The White Australia policy involved the exclusion of all non-European people from immigrating into Australia, and was the official policy of all governments and all mainstream political parties in Australia from the 1890s to the 1950s, and elements of the policy survived until the 1970s. Although the expression 'White Australia policy' was never in official use, it was common in political and public debate throughout the period.[9]

People wanted to migrate since the first humans and war is not the only factor.

No point discussing anything further with you.

SL has no Bantu policy.

[LightAtNight]

Looks like your trying to make excuses to compensate for your lack of awareness about the world around us.

e of the motives for creating a federated Australia was the need for a common immigration policy. There was much resistance to Chinese immigration and the use of indentured workers from New Caledonia to work in the Queensland sugar industry.

The White Australia policy involved the exclusion of all non-European people from immigrating into Australia, and was the official policy of all governments and all mainstream political parties in Australia from the 1890s to the 1950s, and elements of the policy survived until the 1970s. Although the expression 'White Australia policy' was never in official use, it was common in political and public debate throughout the period.[9]

People wanted to migrate since the first humans and war is not the only factor.

No point discussing anything further with you.

SL has no Bantu policy.

hahaha, no was talking about the idea of people migrating in general, we know migration has always existed throughout human history as people always move to new places in search of new opportunities or fleeing war etc, The migrations am talking about are the current levels of migration due to war and mass poverty and people losing hope in their countries of origin unlike before.

I don't know what point youre trying to prove by mentioning the White Autralia Policy, Surely it only proves what I was saying earlier which is that in the early days there was a prevailing racist attitude towards none white people, the White Autralia Policy is only reflective of those attitudes. By the way, the Chinese were being brought over by the British, its not like stepping over each other to come to Autrialia to become indentured workers.

About the Bantu issue, sorry to break it to you, but there are already a lot of Bantus in Somaliland, there are even bantu workers, teachers from Kenya married to local girls, Somaliland doesnt really have the institutional capacity to enforce effective restriction

[SahanGalbeed]

Why is Somalia worth saving? What do they contribute to this world or even to the Horn? Nothing, only murun, dagaal, kalaqebsanaan iyo naceyb. If Somalis are overtaken by the neighbouring populations maybe something new and better will emerge.

Self loathing much ? That's not really "enlightening the night"
Somalis are evolving at their own pace , setting up the basis of a free , fair , consensual and trusted governance upon which anything long lasting can be built . It never happens quickly in a society of "equals" but when it does it usually outlasts the rest , you might wanna look at the history of Europe for that

[barbarossa]

the big problem for us in somliland and indeed all somalis, is that while our numbers are very small, the surrounding countries are rapidly expanding,

in 2050 ethiopia will be 250 million, while kenya will be 95 million

we must start now, in introducing harsh immigration polices, and walls before its to late

Perhaps the time which has been so often predicted is not far distant, when weak, fragmented and hapless Somalia is swallowed up by its two giant neighbours, Ethiopia and Kenya.

[LightAtNight]

Why is Somalia worth saving? What do they contribute to this world or even to the Horn? Nothing, only murun, dagaal, kalaqebsanaan iyo naceyb. If Somalis are overtaken by the neighbouring populations maybe something new and better will emerge.

Self loathing much ? That's not really "enlightening the night"
Somalis are evolving at their own pace , setting up the basis of a free , fair , consensual and trusted governance upon which anything long lasting can be built . It never happens quickly in a society of "equals" but when it does it usually outlasts the rest , you might wanna look at the history of Europe for that

Am not usually that pessimistic