The meaning of Hawd

[MRnutritionist]

Nimanyahow aan afsoomaaliga idin barnee qaata waan qaldamay ceeb ma ahan.

Hawd waa jungle, anagu jungle afsoomaaliga saxda ah waxaan u naqaanaa hawd adinkuna malaha jungle ka kaliya ee aad aragteen koonfur ayuu idinka qabatay. Ordaha oo odayaashiina soo waydiiya.

Deegaan dhir badan oo jungle ah ayaad hawd loo bixiyey waana afsoomaali sax ah koonfur waa direction qalad qalad ha ku sixin my friends

[Geeljire252]

Awrastaale iyo reer waqooyi afsoomaaliga xageed ku barateen? Mise waqooyi afsoomaali duwan ayaa looga hadlaa?

Hawd macnahiisu waa jungle ama duur duur afsoomaaliga sax da ah.

koonfur waa koonfur hawdna waa jungle marka labadaas maxaa iska galay?

My conclusion why qaldaans here confused hawd to koonfur is only one reason.

Waxa suurta gal ah dadka waqooyi daga jungle ka ugu dhow ee ay arkeen in uu direction ka koonfureed ka qabatay markaas ayey markii ay hawd maqlaan koonfur ama south tilmaameen, dabadeed qaldaan kii oo dhan waxa ay moodeen in hawd ama duurduurkii yahay koonfur laftigeed.

I thought the correct word for jungle was kaym?
E.g kaymaha Jubboyinka, the jungles of Jubba.

Is hawd another word for jungle aswell?

[RoobleAlWaliid]

Nimanyahow aan afsoomaaliga idin barnee qaata waan qaldamay ceeb ma ahan.

Hawd waa jungle, anagu jungle afsoomaaliga saxda ah waxaan u naqaanaa hawd adinkuna malaha jungle ka kaliya ee aad aragteen koonfur ayuu idinka qabatay. Ordaha oo odayaashiina soo waydiiya.

Deegaan dhir badan oo jungle ah ayaad hawd loo bixiyey waana afsoomaali sax ah koonfur waa direction qalad qalad ha ku sixin my friends

Haud means "Bushy" or "South".

[MRnutritionist]

Awrastaale iyo reer waqooyi afsoomaaliga xageed ku barateen? Mise waqooyi afsoomaali duwan ayaa looga hadlaa?

Hawd macnahiisu waa jungle ama duur duur afsoomaaliga sax da ah.

koonfur waa koonfur hawdna waa jungle marka labadaas maxaa iska galay?

My conclusion why qaldaans here confused hawd to koonfur is only one reason.

Waxa suurta gal ah dadka waqooyi daga jungle ka ugu dhow ee ay arkeen in uu direction ka koonfureed ka qabatay markaas ayey markii ay hawd maqlaan koonfur ama south tilmaameen, dabadeed qaldaan kii oo dhan waxa ay moodeen in hawd ama duurduurkii yahay koonfur laftigeed.

I thought the correct word for jungle was kaym?
E.g kaymaha Jubboyinka, the jungles of Jubba.

Is hawd another word for jungle aswell?

Hawd keyn iyo duurduur intaba waa la yiraahdaa

[MRnutritionist]

Nimanyahow aan afsoomaaliga idin barnee qaata waan qaldamay ceeb ma ahan.

Hawd waa jungle, anagu jungle afsoomaaliga saxda ah waxaan u naqaanaa hawd adinkuna malaha jungle ka kaliya ee aad aragteen koonfur ayuu idinka qabatay. Ordaha oo odayaashiina soo waydiiya.

Deegaan dhir badan oo jungle ah ayaad hawd loo bixiyey waana afsoomaali sax ah koonfur waa direction qalad qalad ha ku sixin my friends

Haud means "Bushy" or "South".

Bushy is correct word and bushy is a jungle

[Rambie]

[AwRastaale]

Guban,

Thanks for the file. Here is one that can be read



MrNutritionist,

This topic doesn't concern you.

No need for your trolling.

X-Playa, Guban, Rooble and the other northerners/Landers

I have a different theory as to why Hawd was named Hawd especially under the Protectrate. One thing I can't locate is the names of the regions before the British. X-Playa seems to have done works on this chapter, can he share documents on the names of the regions before the British and if not how many regions were under the British Somaliland.

Here is my theory guys.

The name Hawd is not indigenous to Somalis. It may have been referred to as a direction in the British Somaliland but there is window of possibility that it was either named by the British itself or someone that had experience with the Middle East.

My other question is where were the first barkado/reservoirs dug in Somaliland? Can someone find files/documents on that.

I heard the first barkado were dug in Hawd especially in the Daroor valley. My own family dug a 10m by 15m barkad (depth unsure but no more than 5m) in the late 1950s. Already there were others. The pre-existing ones were much smaller.

Hawd as I have stated before means cistern in Arabic. It was used ever since the Islam emerged or the Arabic script spread.

A cistern (Middle English cisterne, from Latin cisterna, from cista, "box", from Greek κίστη kistê, "basket")[1] is a waterproof receptacle for holding liquids, usually water. Cisterns are often built to catch and store rainwater.

Waterproof lime plaster cisterns in the floors of houses are features of Neolithic village sites of the Levant at, for instance, Ramad and Lebwe,[2] and by the late fourth millennium BC, as at Jawa in northeastern Lebanon, cisterns are essential elements of emerging water management techniques in dry-land farming communities.

From here we know the Arabs were exposed to the idea very early on.

Another thing we imported was the term Barkad (Birket) itself. Birket (pool) and Hawd (cistern) were more or less the same in Arabia/Jerusalem/Lebanon.

Pools of Jerusalem

The pools of Jerusalem consist of series of pools including what is locally known as Birket el-Hamra, Birket el-Khalil, Birket as-Sultan Suleiman al-Kanuni, Birket Hammim el'Batrak and others. Most of them are found within the Damascus Gate, which is in the old Jerusalem. And few in Bethlehem.

All empires who invaded Palestine discovered these works.

The Byzantine empire is said to have constructed these series of barkado in and around Jerusalem. The Ottoman Empire will later borrow and even construct one in Berbera which works to this day. Someone can share that to show the similarities between Jerusaleem pools and the Ottoman work there.


Look into the pool at the end of Hezekiah's tunnel with its Byzantine pillar bases

That's the story of 'barkad aka birket'.

In regards to a Palestinian village.

The French explorer Victor Guérin visited in 1870 and found "an ancient marble column at the door of a mosque; in the valley below the village a large square well, built with regular stones and surmounted by a vaulted construction. Near the well a birket, no longer used, and partly filled up, and close at hand the foundations of an ancient tower, measuring 15 paces by 10, and built with large masonry."[6] In 1873, SWP surveyed three ancient rock-cut tombs north of the village.[7]

Now Hawd




Mahrayha is gacan.

Hawd being a reservoir where water is stored the British saw the first birkets in Hawd region and probably just made the link and called it Hawd. My argument is Hawd is really the history of barkado/birket in SL. The British used the climate and landmarks to name the regions such as Gubaan, Ogo and Hawd (birket place). The British and its allies already occupied Palestine and was exposed to birket/Hawd. It is the same how they imported the "Mullah" title from places like Afghanistan.

Can you prove that birket existed in SL anywhere else before Hawd?

In the hadeeth al Hawd is described as body of water in Paradise.

[Rambie]

[AwRastaale]

Very interesting discussion guys. Rambie amazing pictures and information really.

It is clear the British used the climate of the regions to use it's local ecological terms. Birket as I argued is heavily reliant on surface water or rainwater and that is what Haud was and is. It is dotted with birket unlike anywhere else in Somaliland. You can find Daroor alone with more birket than many towns in SL.

Well and birket are not the same by the way as I highlighted earlier on. Birket and Hawd (cistern) are more inline.

I found this too:

Swayne cautioned against the concessions made to Ethiopia on the Haud, because the area was of central importance to the Somali population.

There were four ecological zones in the country: the `Guban' (coastal area), the Golis range (mountain escarpment), the Oogo (plateau), and the Hand (southern forests and plains). The two most important zones were the interior plateau and the Haud. During the rainy seasons, the pastoralists moved their livestock to the Haud because of the abundance of pastures and temporary water (rain) reservoir. During the dry seasons, the pastoralists moved their livestock to the plateau because it had, unlike the Haud, permanent water.

The `pulsatory movement' (24) of the pastoralists protected the country from overgrazing, soil erosion and ecological degradation. The loss of the Haud as a result of Anglo-Ethiopian agreements would be considered a `mortal blow' because of the economic importance of the region for Somaliland. But Rodd ignored Swayne's reservations since his objective was to gain the support of Ethiopia for the race to Fashoda rather than to `protect' the interests of the Somalis. The treaty was never announced in Somaliland and Ethiopia never exercised any direct control over the area. In the 1930s, Somalis became aware of the treaty in an indirect way, when the joint Ethiopian-British Commission began setting boundary marks. The rural folk responded by destroying the marks.

In 1931 the government passed the Ordinance for the Protection of the Boundary Marks. But the Ordinance hardly deterred the people, and in 1934 a British member of the Commission was murdered on the frontier. (25) In 1935 the Italians invaded and conquered Ethiopia, and began for the first time the administration of the area by a foreign power. Five years later (August 1940), Italy invaded and conquered Somaliland. In March 1941 the British re-conquered Somaliland, Italian Somalia, and Ethiopia. By the end of 1941, the British had control over the whole of the Horn of Africa.

By the way Fashoda is in Sudan. Britain traded Haud and the Reserve for Sudan, where the French made a camp after downstream from the Nile. The two were distant to have a war over Sudan but they made agreement that France would recognize Britain's claim to Sudan in return for Britain's recognition of France's sovereignty over Morocco.

But Hawd was temporarily lost to Italy by both the British and the Ethiopians.

However, after WW2 the Americans would use Hawd, the Ogaden and Eritrea to negotiate for a base in Eritrea in return Washington recognized Ethiopian rule over these three territories.

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

Haud to me sounds Somali, it's an area with less water during the dry seasons, but plenty during the rainy season. good for grazing, it has more vegetation than the guban and oog regions. Clans move there herds North and south from Oog to the Hawd and back forth for Water and pasture for their herds.

My family is Reer Nugaaleed clanwise But settle in Hawd. I'm proud of both.

[balwarama]

war yaa Ilaahay yaqaan! Eegga ma macnaha Hawd ee Afsoomali baad koonfur u haysataan, cajiib! Hawd waa Xidh! Ku hungowde Habaryoonisood, Hawd ka dayataane.kolay Habarjeceliyo muuse tahay, nimankaan haraadkiyo aqoon, Hawdka maristiise. Bilaahi calaykum ma eeggad macnaha Hawd garan la'adihiin. Waryaa nimanka Iidoor Afsoomaali ma garanayaan

[Timiro1999]

Marka jihooyinka la tilmaamayo waa sida tan
Bari=East
Galbeed=west
North=waqooyi
Markaa Hawd =south
Dadka waaweyn sida ayeeyinkay jiilkoodu ma yaqaanan jihada koonfur ee waxay yidhaahdan Hawd.
Tusaale ahan markay meel kuu tilmaamayan waxay ku odhanayaan guriga Hawd u jeeda.

[balwarama]

agah war Iidoorku wuuba waalan yahay. War dee Hawdka kaliya eed haysateen baa Koonfur idinka xigay! Hawd anagu xidhkaanu unaqaanaa hadaanu Ogaadeen nahay. Ingiriisna dee idinka unbaa ku yidhi Hawdku waaa dhankaa. Hawd iyo hunde ayaanu dhahnaa. Xidh, Ay,Hawd iyo Duur intuba waa isku macno

[burcaawi14]

I never knew hawd as south, but as a cistern (berkad). I always thought it was a loan word from af carabi. Like how the believers will drink from the prophets AL hawd(pond) called kawthar on qiyaamah and will never feel thirst again.

[JSL3000]

The hawd area size is one third of current somaliland republic which is 68,000 Sq miles if we regain the hawd somaliland will be closer to 100,000 square miles.

Actually if you include the western regions as Haud it's bigger than half of Somaliland. The thing is the real Haud are the eastern regions.

That make sense but the whole hawd area is still considered hawd all my relatives live harshin and hartisheikh refer to it as hawdka and half of somaliland that's huge chunk of land.