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Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 12:42 pm
by PanSomaliNationalist
I say Palestine and israel gets annexed by Egypt since it was the first country to rule over them :Shrug:

Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 2:40 pm
by Thanatophiliac
Salafi resentment towards the Ottomans is mainly political and somewhat theological, if you understand the history, that is. He is only spewing the same rhetoric that is all too common amongst much of the youth who adhere to the Salafi/Madkhalite/Jaamite or some Jihadite doctrines.
Muhammad Pasha (the Ottoman viceroy), scored a tremendous victory against the Wahhabi hordes and ransacked their headquarters in Dir'iyyah.
Then, in an act of secrecy they started illegally publishing books/journals and resorted to banditry, highway robbery and according to some verifiable historians, buggery. :lol: They declared the Ottoman State as 'outside of the confines of Islam itself'. Only when the Ottomans feared these looters/bandits would wreak havoc on the Hijaz did the Ottomans decide it was imperative and a moral duty to take action again and occupy the Najd. Great guy. He deserves a monument. :up:

As for the theological elements within the movement (Salafi/Wahhabi). It opposes mainstream traditional Sunni orthodoxy representative of the Ash'arite/Maturdite schools of thought. To identify them isn't strenuous. They believe they have a monopoly on Islam, they hate rationality in Religion. Those who do not pledge allegiance to their ideology are ex-communcated. In the West, they are (fully) dependant on Jobseeker's allowance. Don't believe in hard work. They are involved in a number of illicit/fraudulent dealings. They gossip like girls. :lol:
If you witness someone appropriating a robe that almost stops at knee length and calls you an 'Aki' (brother) every sentence... That's their trademark. Most of them suffer from mental retardation and autism. A repulsive lot, they are :lol:

Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:31 pm
by grandpakhalif
Ottoman empire was a failing, decadent state, I absolutely agree with Mr. Gerigoor. They weren't cqlled the sick man of Europe for nothing. Increasing moral decadence including hundreds of Slavic harems, the increasing consumption of wine and the failure to continue offensive jihad lead to its complete and utter demise. They were too busy purging political opponents and ransacking Muslim cities, like those in Najd instead of protecting Muslim borders from increasingly threatening European colonialism.

There failure to curb unislamic prinçiples and thoughts, Turkic nationalism and secularism lead to Attaturk the Jew, who destroyed the caliphate fr within..

Believe me when I say that the caliphate is best lead by a Quraishi, they are the last hope we have

Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:42 pm
by jalaaludin5
grandpakhalif wrote:Ottoman empire was a failing, decadent state, I absolutely agree with Mr. Gerigoor. They weren't cqlled the sick man of Europe for nothing. Increasing moral decadence including hundreds of Slavic harems, the increasing consumption of wine and the failure to continue offensive jihad lead to its complete and utter demise. They were too busy purging political opponents and ransacking Muslim cities, like those in Najd instead of protecting Muslim borders from increasingly threatening European colonialism.

There failure to curb unislamic prinçiples and thoughts, Turkic nationalism and secularism lead to Attaturk the Jew, who destroyed the caliphate fr within..

Believe me when I say that the caliphate is best lead by a Quraishi, they are the last hope we have
In other words, Isaaq ama Daarood. lol

Af'ka mujaahid jihadis grandfartkhalif
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Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:50 pm
by MujahidAishah
PanSomaliNationalist wrote:I say Palestine and israel gets annexed by Egypt since it was the first country to rule over them :Shrug:
I say sort out your own god damn country first :sitdown:

Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 4:59 pm
by PanSomaliNationalist
MujahidAishah wrote:
PanSomaliNationalist wrote:I say Palestine and israel gets annexed by Egypt since it was the first country to rule over them :Shrug:
I say sort out your own god damn country first :sitdown:
Inshallah I will now fugg off :pacspit:

Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:08 pm
by MujahidAishah
PanSomaliNationalist wrote:
MujahidAishah wrote:
PanSomaliNationalist wrote:I say Palestine and israel gets annexed by Egypt since it was the first country to rule over them :Shrug:
I say sort out your own god damn country first :sitdown:
Inshallah I will now fugg off :pacspit:
Who you telling to fuck off kow sit the fuck down :ufdup:

Before I :

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Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 5:44 pm
by PanSomaliNationalist
MujahidAishah wrote:
PanSomaliNationalist wrote:
MujahidAishah wrote:
I say sort out your own god damn country first :sitdown:
Inshallah I will now fugg off :pacspit:
Who you telling to fuck off kow sit the fuck down :ufdup:

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Don't fuck with me lil nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWISiHcGoNg

Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 7:57 pm
by grandpakhalif
jalaaludin5 wrote:
grandpakhalif wrote:Ottoman empire was a failing, decadent state, I absolutely agree with Mr. Gerigoor. They weren't cqlled the sick man of Europe for nothing. Increasing moral decadence including hundreds of Slavic harems, the increasing consumption of wine and the failure to continue offensive jihad lead to its complete and utter demise. They were too busy purging political opponents and ransacking Muslim cities, like those in Najd instead of protecting Muslim borders from increasingly threatening European colonialism.

There failure to curb unislamic prinçiples and thoughts, Turkic nationalism and secularism lead to Attaturk the Jew, who destroyed the caliphate fr within..

Believe me when I say that the caliphate is best lead by a Quraishi, they are the last hope we have
In other words, Isaaq ama Daarood. lol

Af'ka mujaahid jihadis grandfartkhalif
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No way, Zoomalis cannot and will never be qualified for such a position, imagine the horror?

Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 8:46 pm
by X.Playa
Fuck you and Quraysh a sodomite Arab clan. Who the fuck are they to be worshiped as mini gods the Arab brainwash is absolute. So if you kiss their azz your ticket to Jana is guaranteed miyaa?

Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:01 pm
by Museyusuf
Why are So many Somalis against the idea of Salafia or as you may know at as Wahabi.
I used to be like you guys once upon a time, but I am not an ignorant person so I did my research. Turned out Salafia is another name for sunna. The teaching fellows the sunna no matter how strict it may seem, it is the most accurate if not the only accurate form of Islam. So I would advise the people not to be so ignorant and judgemental and do their research.

Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 9:07 pm
by X.Playa
Museyusuf wrote:Why are So many Somalis against the idea of Salafia or as you may know at as Wahabi.
I used to be like you guys once upon a time, but I am not an ignorant person so I did my research. Turned out Salafia is another name for sunna. The teaching fellows the sunna no matter how strict it may seem, it is the most accurate if not the only accurate form of Islam. So I would advise the people not to be so ignorant and judgemental and do their research.
Nobody arguing it's not accurate the fact it's and it's bloody and abti humanity that's what is revolting about it. A stone age ethics of chop chop and stoning to death flogging and all its draconian rules.

Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 10:53 pm
by gegiroor
SULTAN ABDULAZIZ (Born) 1830 - (Deceased) 1876 CE

With his firman dated April 5th, 1870, the Sultan Abdul Aziz allocated the "Alliance Israelite Universelle" 2600 dunams of land east of Jaffa for the establishment of a school of agriculture and also granted permission for importing all kinds of tools and machinery free of taxes and customs. As Ben Gouriion, said: "I doubt that the Israeli dream would have been realized if the farm school of Mikveh Israel had not existed." Among Jews that served during the reign of Sultan Aziz: The palace intendent Baruh Cohen, Dr. Mordohay Levi in different cities. In the army admiral Dr. Isaac Pasha Molho, Fr. Menetes Pasa Galimidi, Dr. Isaac Pasa Galimidi and admiral Elias Pasa Cohen. Upon recurrence of blood libel accusations, Sultan Aziz issued the attached firman dated July 11th, 1866 taking the Jews under his protection. Thanks to this firman the Greek Orthodox patriarchate had to issue encyclicals to all churches, forbidding such practices.
SULTAN ABDULHAMID II (Born) 1842 - (Deceased) 1918 CE

Following Ottoman territorial losses in the Balkans owing to the Turco-Russian war and the ensuing Berlin Treaty, mass immigration of Turks and Jews starts towards Turkey. The Jews prepare festivities for the 400th anniversary of their arrival from Spain. Abdulhamid is making plans for installing 200,000 Jewish immigrants from Russia in the south east, but this remains as a project. The Jews are out of their shell. In the 1887 parliament we see Jewish parliament member. Abraham Adjiman, Menahem Salah Pasa, Ziver, Davitchon Levi and David Karmona. In the 1908 parliament Vitali Faradji Alberta Fua, Emmanuel Carasso, Nisim Mazliyah, Yehezkel Sasson and at the senate Bohor Eskenazi. After the Alfred Dreyfus case, the arrival of the Hungarian born Theodor Herzl from the leading Viennese newspaper "Neue Freie Presse" to Istanbul takes place. He comes first in 1898 then in 1901 and a third time in 1902 and tries to obtain an audience with the Sultan Abdulhamid. It is on his third voyage that he is finally gtanted one through the head Rabbi Moshe Levy. The Sultan receives him, and through the conversation Herzl tries to obtain a Jewish homeland under the protection of the Sultan and under the same statutes as the Island of Crete.
Source: http://www.sephardicstudies.org/sultans1.html

In that quote, the Ottoman empire had facilitated the arrival of 200,000 Jews from the Balkans, Russia, and Caucasus to have settled in Turkey before they make the next move to buy land in Palestine under the protection of the Ottoman rulers. Look at the parliament of Turkey at that time: It was fully Jewish dominated. Theodore Herzl, the founder of Zionism, has made a bald move to ask SULTAN ABDULHAMID a Jewish homeland in in the Muslim Holy land.

One can also see the former Prime Minister Ben Gouriion stating, "I doubt that the Israeli dream would have been realized if the farm school of Mikveh Israel had not existed." What Ben Gurion is referring here is the land that the Ottoman empire allocated to the Jewish settlers that were heading to the Holy Land. Those are the words of Ben Gurion, not mine.

Of course, dumb and lazy Somalis who knows nothing about history would try to laugh at what is being recorded in the history archives.

Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:18 pm
by gegiroor
I personally have no issues with ordinary Jews; however, recorded history needs to be learned and communicated instead of running with wild dreams. Of course, there are people like Smooth who worships Erdogan and would write pages after pages in Internet forums and defends Erdogan as if he is Muslim mahdi. Audubillaah, some of these people are theologically blind to the point where they fall for mere slogans. It seemed Erdogan is the new mahdi for the deviant Sufis.

Re: Gegiroor doesn't recognize the Ottoman Empire and sees it as illegitimate

Posted: Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:28 pm
by gegiroor
Museyusuf wrote:Why are So many Somalis against the idea of Salafia or as you may know at as Wahabi.
I used to be like you guys once upon a time, but I am not an ignorant person so I did my research. Turned out Salafia is another name for sunna. The teaching fellows the sunna no matter how strict it may seem, it is the most accurate if not the only accurate form of Islam. So I would advise the people not to be so ignorant and judgemental and do their research.
Deviant Sufis have nothing going for them, so it is pure jealousy on their oart to hate the Muslims who are striving hard to do what is right. Hating, weak propaganda, and hiding behind the Rawaafidh and other Mushrikeen is all they do nowadays.