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Murax wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:00 pm Somalis bottom line have to is caafi. People are in Utanga, until today and other people have died and overall Somalis only destroyed themselves. My 1st cousin AUN was killed by His HG Brother in law, who yea also was the Abti of His kids. It was a civil war and people died. What good is it holding whole tribes accountable for what certain members did? At the end of the day there is Yaum Al Qiyaama and believe Me anywone who did Dulmi will pay for it in this world or the next and to pay for it in this world is actually a blessing from Allah because the punishment in the hereafter is worse.
Murax,

You southerners still do wish to play the; hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil, when it comes to acknowledging the destructive policies the Barre government inflicted on a majority innocent population. Most of you and your comrades either will fully belittle the victims by claiming it to be similar to what befell Somalis in other regions. This is wrong on so many levels. What happened after the war between clans, also happened in the north. We had our own clan wars and have been able to settle those difference a lot quicker and with better grace than you guys. This is a constant theme aimed at landers, is if we are the wrong once. When the truth is we have been wronged on a monumental level. But you already know this.

Now, you opened this topic with a loaded question. Again implying we are the ones with the problem. When the truth is we are a lot more honest than you and your politicians. The war your uncle started has not finished - regardless of your bed time stories- which is why people like Morgan and accepted and invited to the highest office. You can't claim to be a country that represents Isaaq's and at the same time award those who murdered innocent civilians. That makes no sense. They are two opposing positions. Either the Isaaq's were wronged by the former regime - and I speak of the regime and not tribal wars - and deserve justice or they were not, in which case you either admit we are two separate countries , your government does not represent us and we can all move on. However if you claim to represent us and we are not entitled to have justice then you are our enemy and we are yours. This nonsense about Ethiopia is a red herring and regardless of the ethnic composition of that country - which I should remind you, it's your Darod cousins who ride the Tigre shaft the deepest - has not killed a single Isaaq person. Why would I see that country as enemy. Granted they oppose the unification of the Somalia, but that's in line with our policy. You are Marexaan and care about Marexaan interests first, then Darod and Somali a lonely last. That applies to everyone.
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koonfur have moved ahead there is great social change; HG, MJ and abgaal all losing power but the landers r stuck in 80s and clan politics so they wont welcome a mx whos good for koonfur over a mj

koonfur has totally changed since the courts and then waqooyi-infested al shabaab and now there is a mix of nationalism and islamism

mx has nothing to do with the farmajo election apart from 14 members. murursade has more to do with it as ala sheikh and daljir leaders the party that gave him half of his votes. for abroad, khayre was the link between farmaajo and the west for a long time. he invested in farmajo so he appointed him not the other way round. the west and diplomats, dawladaha dariska r more rellying on him since hes more open. hes actually a very strong pm and you will see but i heard farmajo is aware of this bc he sees he can fix anythin even for the regions

murursade came via ikhwanism

so HG and abgaal lost it bc of the murursade control of the civil society. founders of the CRD and HIPS and the leaders of the only true HAG organisation aka ala sheikh bc al islaax is led by sheikhls and rer aw xassan

poor qaldaans dont see all this kkkk


a politician used to tell me the clan politics r good for SL and PL in the short term but in the long term koonfur will be better
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We have seen this piece of cheap street theatre before. Too many times to count. Almost 30 years of the same story.

New President.
New PM.
Same old war criminals and crooks.
Same old story of corruption and ineptitude.
Same old walaalaha Al Shabab iyo AMISOM.

Hassan Khaa'in iyo Far-maato will not change anything. They will only bring corruption and welcoming of war criminals and warlords.

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I too have a cousin who was orphaned by Mareexaan. His dad was gunned down by Mareexaan back in the civil war
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They suffer inferiority complex and post stress trauma disorder from events that supposedly occured 33 years ago. Truly mind boggling.
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grandpakhalif wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:06 pm They suffer inferiority complex and post stress trauma disorder from events that supposedly occured 33 years ago. Truly mind boggling.

Lol@"supposedly Occurred"

NO Grandpa,

We just refuse to play your game and repeat the same mistakes....

33 years might have gone but you still haven't changed and thats mind boggling...

ps, when did you go from a diehard jihadist to a diehard SFG supporter...Qabil is hellauva drug :lol:
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sahal80 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:44 pm koonfur have moved ahead there is great social change; HG, MJ and abgaal all losing power but the landers r stuck in 80s and clan politics so they wont welcome a mx whos good for koonfur over a mj

koonfur has totally changed since the courts and then waqooyi-infested al shabaab and now there is a mix of nationalism and islamism

mx has nothing to do with the farmajo election apart from 14 members. murursade has more to do with it as ala sheikh and daljir leaders the party that gave him half of his votes. for abroad, khayre was the link between farmaajo and the west for a long time. he invested in farmajo so he appointed him not the other way round. the west and diplomats, dawladaha dariska r more rellying on him since hes more open. hes actually a very strong pm and you will see but i heard farmajo is aware of this bc he sees he can fix anythin even for the regions

murursade came via ikhwanism

so HG and abgaal lost it bc of the murursade control of the civil society. founders of the CRD and HIPS and the leaders of the only true HAG organisation aka ala sheikh bc al islaax is led by sheikhls and rer aw xassan

poor qaldaans dont see all this kkkk


a politician used to tell me the clan politics r good for SL and PL in the short term but in the long term koonfur will be better

Sahal,

However you cook it, this is a war of attrition. We wont lose because for you its silly but for us our survival depends on it. If you ever reach the stage you become a threat, u can bet your house in beledweyne the Isaaq's in the diaspora will mobilise as one unified force, when you meet this force you will fragment again. Dont repeat history, move on...
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skywalker25 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:28 pm
sahal80 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:44 pm koonfur have moved ahead there is great social change; HG, MJ and abgaal all losing power but the landers r stuck in 80s and clan politics so they wont welcome a mx whos good for koonfur over a mj

koonfur has totally changed since the courts and then waqooyi-infested al shabaab and now there is a mix of nationalism and islamism

mx has nothing to do with the farmajo election apart from 14 members. murursade has more to do with it as ala sheikh and daljir leaders the party that gave him half of his votes. for abroad, khayre was the link between farmaajo and the west for a long time. he invested in farmajo so he appointed him not the other way round. the west and diplomats, dawladaha dariska r more rellying on him since hes more open. hes actually a very strong pm and you will see but i heard farmajo is aware of this bc he sees he can fix anythin even for the regions

murursade came via ikhwanism

so HG and abgaal lost it bc of the murursade control of the civil society. founders of the CRD and HIPS and the leaders of the only true HAG organisation aka ala sheikh bc al islaax is led by sheikhls and rer aw xassan

poor qaldaans dont see all this kkkk


a politician used to tell me the clan politics r good for SL and PL in the short term but in the long term koonfur will be better

Sahal,

However you cook it, this is a war of attrition. We wont lose because for you its silly but for us our survival depends on it. If you ever reach the stage you become a threat, u can bet your house in beledweyne the Isaaq's in the diaspora will mobilise as one unified force, when you meet this force you will fragment again. Dont repeat history, move on...
kkkkk wtf your talking about? sxb we got to fix our shit we got to remove all these enemies from our chest by helping eachother.

our new president has breaked the status quo of starting the official visit from addis ababa. got invited by addis and he said when i got time i will let you know! his next visits will be qatar, turkey and somali regions!

got paid $120m in cash by sacuudiga! will spend on the army!
https://ethiocritical.com/2017/02/17/me ... ationship/


but i understand whats is good for us is not good for you!
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sahal80 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:44 pm
skywalker25 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:28 pm
sahal80 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:44 pm koonfur have moved ahead there is great social change; HG, MJ and abgaal all losing power but the landers r stuck in 80s and clan politics so they wont welcome a mx whos good for koonfur over a mj

koonfur has totally changed since the courts and then waqooyi-infested al shabaab and now there is a mix of nationalism and islamism

mx has nothing to do with the farmajo election apart from 14 members. murursade has more to do with it as ala sheikh and daljir leaders the party that gave him half of his votes. for abroad, khayre was the link between farmaajo and the west for a long time. he invested in farmajo so he appointed him not the other way round. the west and diplomats, dawladaha dariska r more rellying on him since hes more open. hes actually a very strong pm and you will see but i heard farmajo is aware of this bc he sees he can fix anythin even for the regions

murursade came via ikhwanism

so HG and abgaal lost it bc of the murursade control of the civil society. founders of the CRD and HIPS and the leaders of the only true HAG organisation aka ala sheikh bc al islaax is led by sheikhls and rer aw xassan

poor qaldaans dont see all this kkkk


a politician used to tell me the clan politics r good for SL and PL in the short term but in the long term koonfur will be better

Sahal,

However you cook it, this is a war of attrition. We wont lose because for you its silly but for us our survival depends on it. If you ever reach the stage you become a threat, u can bet your house in beledweyne the Isaaq's in the diaspora will mobilise as one unified force, when you meet this force you will fragment again. Dont repeat history, move on...
kkkkk wtf your talking about? sxb we got to fix our shit we got to remove all these enemies from our chest by helping eachother.
https://ethiocritical.com/2017/02/17/me ... ationship/


but i understand whats is good for us is not good for you!
Why would we help you, when its clear as day light you oppose our aspirations. For this reason you are our biggest enemy. A few isaaq's - myself included - this sentimental feelings and brotherhood nonsense. The truth has come out over the last week though. You guys haven't changed. Rather walking round as a wolf you just put on some sheeps clothing. You will be our number one enemy until the day you stop claiming us...
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skywalker25 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:14 pm
Murax wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:00 pm Somalis bottom line have to is caafi. People are in Utanga, until today and other people have died and overall Somalis only destroyed themselves. My 1st cousin AUN was killed by His HG Brother in law, who yea also was the Abti of His kids. It was a civil war and people died. What good is it holding whole tribes accountable for what certain members did? At the end of the day there is Yaum Al Qiyaama and believe Me anywone who did Dulmi will pay for it in this world or the next and to pay for it in this world is actually a blessing from Allah because the punishment in the hereafter is worse.
Murax,

You southerners still do wish to play the; hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil, when it comes to acknowledging the destructive policies the Barre government inflicted on a majority innocent population. Most of you and your comrades either will fully belittle the victims by claiming it to be similar to what befell Somalis in other regions. This is wrong on so many levels. What happened after the war between clans, also happened in the north. We had our own clan wars and have been able to settle those difference a lot quicker and with better grace than you guys. This is a constant theme aimed at landers, is if we are the wrong once. When the truth is we have been wronged on a monumental level. But you already know this.

Now, you opened this topic with a loaded question. Again implying we are the ones with the problem. When the truth is we are a lot more honest than you and your politicians. The war your uncle started has not finished - regardless of your bed time stories- which is why people like Morgan and accepted and invited to the highest office. You can't claim to be a country that represents Isaaq's and at the same time award those who murdered innocent civilians. That makes no sense. They are two opposing positions. Either the Isaaq's were wronged by the former regime - and I speak of the regime and not tribal wars - and deserve justice or they were not, in which case you either admit we are two separate countries , your government does not represent us and we can all move on. However if you claim to represent us and we are not entitled to have justice then you are our enemy and we are yours. This nonsense about Ethiopia is a red herring and regardless of the ethnic composition of that country - which I should remind you, it's your Darod cousins who ride the Tigre shaft the deepest - has not killed a single Isaaq person. Why would I see that country as enemy. Granted they oppose the unification of the Somalia, but that's in line with our policy. You are Marexaan and care about Marexaan interests first, then Darod and Somali a lonely last. That applies to everyone.
You hypocrites are amazing. Sadly, many Somalis support Siad Barre. His attack on Somaliland was horrendous and I remember seeing the pictures of the bones of children, mothers etc. Even my mother(hawiye like my family) support him. But it goes both ways. Most Somalilanders support SNM and their atrocities. They killed many in their conquest for Burco, Berbera and other coastal cities in the North. If you accept Siad Barre's atrocities, accept SNM's. But in your reply you'll probably go on a rant about how only Siad was the villain, very hypocritical indeed. They ultimately were bombed because leaders in those areas refused to stop giving them a safe haven. If you give a home to terrorists, you'll get burned along with them. Though I'm not justifying what happened to those who died.
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sahal80 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:44 pm koonfur have moved ahead there is great social change; HG, MJ and abgaal all losing power but the landers r stuck in 80s and clan politics so they wont welcome a mx whos good for koonfur over a mj

koonfur has totally changed since the courts and then waqooyi-infested al shabaab and now there is a mix of nationalism and islamism

mx has nothing to do with the farmajo election apart from 14 members. murursade has more to do with it as ala sheikh and daljir leaders the party that gave him half of his votes. for abroad, khayre was the link between farmaajo and the west for a long time. he invested in farmajo so he appointed him not the other way round. the west and diplomats, dawladaha dariska r more rellying on him since hes more open. hes actually a very strong pm and you will see but i heard farmajo is aware of this bc he sees he can fix anythin even for the regions

murursade came via ikhwanism

so HG and abgaal lost it bc of the murursade control of the civil society. founders of the CRD and HIPS and the leaders of the only true HAG organisation aka ala sheikh bc al islaax is led by sheikhls and rer aw xassan

poor qaldaans dont see all this kkkk


a politician used to tell me the clan politics r good for SL and PL in the short term but in the long term koonfur will be better

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Xilddid:
Three Isaaq colonels (Askar, Kosaar and Cali Xussein) liberated three crucial fronts while many Isaaq officers trained WSLF inside SL and Hawd (Awaare) including my uncle, another uncle fighting in the Dirdhaba front.
The liberation of Ogaden was the mission of the whole somali nation. All somalis clan fought for Greater Somalia dream. Some people say Siad Barre was jealous of the army power.
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random1234567 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:59 pm
skywalker25 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:14 pm
Murax wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:00 pm Somalis bottom line have to is caafi. People are in Utanga, until today and other people have died and overall Somalis only destroyed themselves. My 1st cousin AUN was killed by His HG Brother in law, who yea also was the Abti of His kids. It was a civil war and people died. What good is it holding whole tribes accountable for what certain members did? At the end of the day there is Yaum Al Qiyaama and believe Me anywone who did Dulmi will pay for it in this world or the next and to pay for it in this world is actually a blessing from Allah because the punishment in the hereafter is worse.
Murax,

You southerners still do wish to play the; hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil, when it comes to acknowledging the destructive policies the Barre government inflicted on a majority innocent population. Most of you and your comrades either will fully belittle the victims by claiming it to be similar to what befell Somalis in other regions. This is wrong on so many levels. What happened after the war between clans, also happened in the north. We had our own clan wars and have been able to settle those difference a lot quicker and with better grace than you guys. This is a constant theme aimed at landers, is if we are the wrong once. When the truth is we have been wronged on a monumental level. But you already know this.

Now, you opened this topic with a loaded question. Again implying we are the ones with the problem. When the truth is we are a lot more honest than you and your politicians. The war your uncle started has not finished - regardless of your bed time stories- which is why people like Morgan and accepted and invited to the highest office. You can't claim to be a country that represents Isaaq's and at the same time award those who murdered innocent civilians. That makes no sense. They are two opposing positions. Either the Isaaq's were wronged by the former regime - and I speak of the regime and not tribal wars - and deserve justice or they were not, in which case you either admit we are two separate countries , your government does not represent us and we can all move on. However if you claim to represent us and we are not entitled to have justice then you are our enemy and we are yours. This nonsense about Ethiopia is a red herring and regardless of the ethnic composition of that country - which I should remind you, it's your Darod cousins who ride the Tigre shaft the deepest - has not killed a single Isaaq person. Why would I see that country as enemy. Granted they oppose the unification of the Somalia, but that's in line with our policy. You are Marexaan and care about Marexaan interests first, then Darod and Somali a lonely last. That applies to everyone.
You hypocrites are amazing. Sadly, many Somalis support Siad Barre. His attack on Somaliland was horrendous and I remember seeing the pictures of the bones of children, mothers etc. Even my mother(hawiye like my family) support him. But it goes both ways. Most Somalilanders support SNM and their atrocities. They killed many in their conquest for Burco, Berbera and other coastal cities in the North. If you accept Siad Barre's atrocities, accept SNM's. But in your reply you'll probably go on a rant about how only Siad was the villain, very hypocritical indeed. They ultimately were bombed because leaders in those areas refused to stop giving them a safe haven. If you give a home to terrorists, you'll get burned along with them. Though I'm not justifying what happened to those who died.
Did the SNM go to your region and kill your people? Let's just go along with your fairy tale logic. Today the Israelis occupy through brute force portions of the West Bank. Now let's just say the Farah/Hamas finally remove that brutal army. Do you think those settlers who were protected by the same occupying army, who collaborated in the injustice won't face retribution?
Barre's atrocities can not be compared to ANY single actor after the war or before. No single Somali has EVER the amount of power at this mans disposal. And no single clan has EVER withstood the force Isaaq was attacked with. That we survived and became victorious against every Somali tribe united, is why we are who we are, and you are a red bottom Hutu monkey. Now be one your way.
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skywalker25 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:57 pm
random1234567 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:59 pm
skywalker25 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 4:14 pm

Murax,

You southerners still do wish to play the; hear no evil, speak no evil, see no evil, when it comes to acknowledging the destructive policies the Barre government inflicted on a majority innocent population. Most of you and your comrades either will fully belittle the victims by claiming it to be similar to what befell Somalis in other regions. This is wrong on so many levels. What happened after the war between clans, also happened in the north. We had our own clan wars and have been able to settle those difference a lot quicker and with better grace than you guys. This is a constant theme aimed at landers, is if we are the wrong once. When the truth is we have been wronged on a monumental level. But you already know this.

Now, you opened this topic with a loaded question. Again implying we are the ones with the problem. When the truth is we are a lot more honest than you and your politicians. The war your uncle started has not finished - regardless of your bed time stories- which is why people like Morgan and accepted and invited to the highest office. You can't claim to be a country that represents Isaaq's and at the same time award those who murdered innocent civilians. That makes no sense. They are two opposing positions. Either the Isaaq's were wronged by the former regime - and I speak of the regime and not tribal wars - and deserve justice or they were not, in which case you either admit we are two separate countries , your government does not represent us and we can all move on. However if you claim to represent us and we are not entitled to have justice then you are our enemy and we are yours. This nonsense about Ethiopia is a red herring and regardless of the ethnic composition of that country - which I should remind you, it's your Darod cousins who ride the Tigre shaft the deepest - has not killed a single Isaaq person. Why would I see that country as enemy. Granted they oppose the unification of the Somalia, but that's in line with our policy. You are Marexaan and care about Marexaan interests first, then Darod and Somali a lonely last. That applies to everyone.
You hypocrites are amazing. Sadly, many Somalis support Siad Barre. His attack on Somaliland was horrendous and I remember seeing the pictures of the bones of children, mothers etc. Even my mother(hawiye like my family) support him. But it goes both ways. Most Somalilanders support SNM and their atrocities. They killed many in their conquest for Burco, Berbera and other coastal cities in the North. If you accept Siad Barre's atrocities, accept SNM's. But in your reply you'll probably go on a rant about how only Siad was the villain, very hypocritical indeed. They ultimately were bombed because leaders in those areas refused to stop giving them a safe haven. If you give a home to terrorists, you'll get burned along with them. Though I'm not justifying what happened to those who died.
Did the SNM go to your region and kill your people? Let's just go along with your fairy tale logic. Today the Israelis occupy through brute force portions of the West Bank. Now let's just say the Farah/Hamas finally remove that brutal army. Do you think those settlers who were protected by the same occupying army, who collaborated in the injustice won't face retribution?
Barre's atrocities can not be compared to ANY single actor after the war or before. No single Somali has EVER the amount of power at this mans disposal. And no single clan has EVER withstood the force Isaaq was attacked with. That we survived and became victorious against every Somali tribe united, is why we are who we are, and you are a red bottom Hutu monkey. Now be one your way.
Nice analogy, except you forget that the Barre regime owned the areas which SNM invaded. So that example falls quite quick. Now, I haven't, in any way, denied what Barre did. I even said it was horrendous. But to deny that there are atrocities on the side of SNM is just hypocritical. The leaders of those areas were asked to stop housing them, they refused. As bad as what Barre did, was he meant to just hand his northern coastal areas to a rebel group backed by Ethiopia? Every Somali tribe attacked you? You have some strange paranoia. The Hawiye were also attacked, and so were Rahanweyn(arguably worse). It's the reason a civil war broke out. Many Somalis were victims of Siad Barre, don't act as though Somaliland is free of blame.
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random1234567 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 7:06 pm
skywalker25 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 6:57 pm
random1234567 wrote: Fri Feb 24, 2017 5:59 pm

You hypocrites are amazing. Sadly, many Somalis support Siad Barre. His attack on Somaliland was horrendous and I remember seeing the pictures of the bones of children, mothers etc. Even my mother(hawiye like my family) support him. But it goes both ways. Most Somalilanders support SNM and their atrocities. They killed many in their conquest for Burco, Berbera and other coastal cities in the North. If you accept Siad Barre's atrocities, accept SNM's. But in your reply you'll probably go on a rant about how only Siad was the villain, very hypocritical indeed. They ultimately were bombed because leaders in those areas refused to stop giving them a safe haven. If you give a home to terrorists, you'll get burned along with them. Though I'm not justifying what happened to those who died.
Did the SNM go to your region and kill your people? Let's just go along with your fairy tale logic. Today the Israelis occupy through brute force portions of the West Bank. Now let's just say the Farah/Hamas finally remove that brutal army. Do you think those settlers who were protected by the same occupying army, who collaborated in the injustice won't face retribution?
Barre's atrocities can not be compared to ANY single actor after the war or before. No single Somali has EVER the amount of power at this mans disposal. And no single clan has EVER withstood the force Isaaq was attacked with. That we survived and became victorious against every Somali tribe united, is why we are who we are, and you are a red bottom Hutu monkey. Now be one your way.
Nice analogy, except you forget that the Barre regime owned the areas which SNM invaded. So that example falls quite quick. Now, I haven't, in any way, denied what Barre did. I even said it was horrendous. But to deny that there are atrocities on the side of SNM is just hypocritical. The leaders of those areas were asked to stop housing them, they refused. As bad as what Barre did, was he meant to just hand his northern coastal areas to a rebel group backed by Ethiopia? Every Somali tribe attacked you? You have some strange paranoia. The Hawiye were also attacked, and so were Rahanweyn(arguably worse). It's the reason a civil war broke out. Many Somalis were victims of Siad Barre, don't act as though Somaliland is free of blame.
What exactly are we debating about. Adigu you are Hutu who 30 years later is still up to his usual biliqo and isbaroo. Your moral compass has never worked. Getting you to understand simple right and wrong is like asking a career criminal to become a law abiding citizen. You just don't want to understand basic logic. Your tribe specialises in burning elderly people from small tribes.

Ethiopia allowed the Isaaq fighters to use OUR lands inside Ethiopia and when Barre made peace with them by giving them the Somali region, they kicked the SNM out. So how was the SNM working for Ethiopia. Moron

Ps, can you provide some evidence to show that all the major Hawiye cities were destroyed but the SNA?
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