General Survey Somaliland Protectorate 1944-50 by Hunt.

[X.Playa]

Reer Dini Marexaan has over 14 branches
Naleeya Ahmed Dhulos is over 13
Ali Naleeye has 13
Hagar Adan Dhulos is over 12
Adan Hagar & Farax Hagaar each has 12 +
I haven't even went to Nur Axmed, Ali Geri, Barkad, Bahararsame, Jama Siyad, Qayad, Ugaasyo.

Rer Cabdule you can't even count Absame!

Reer Hagar ( Hagar Aadan) are 10 branches. Faarah Hagar Which 2 branches the largest is Cigaal Faarah the most and its further 8 branches.

We have gone over Naaleeye Axmed and Cali Naaleeye no need to exaggerate.

Cali Geri are mere 6 branches. Nur Ahmed are 8 branched Ali Nur the largest mere. 6 branches.

Why daarood always lie and exaggerate. We are talking about 17 , 19 and even 22 branches. Is there a daarood sub clan that reaches that level of branching?

[X.Playa]

where is khalid and thelucky when u need him

I dont know the segments of most HA sub clans besides mine so here it is and reer samater

reer gadiid yoonis

1- kuul
2-ismaaciil
3-yusuf
4-samater
5-xildiid
6-cali
7-meecaad
8-maax
9-xoosh
10-cabdi
11-faarax
12-biniin
13-cismaan
14-Beyle

reer samater cabdalle
1- xildiid
2-Afi xildiid
3-sigate xildiid
4-xawaadle xildiid
5-hauten xildiid
6-Idleh Samata
7-ducaale samatar
8-weid samatar
9-xoosh samatar
10-gulleed samatar

I have. 6 branches for Samatar and 7 branches for Xildiid Samatar .

For Reer Axmed Nuux , 3 branches, jaamaac Nuux 3 branches , Gulleed Jaamaac Nuux the largest 14 branches.

[BestPlaya]

Ree Suldaan Guleed(ciidagale) waa waxay isku mar dhasheen baa ladhahaa Guleed Allamagan(ree lsaaq) iyo Guleed Jaamac(abaskuul).Sadexda qoloba waa laandheerayaasha Reerahooda.

Suldan Guleed(12sections according to reliable sources)
Waa Sideed bahood(Faarax shirwac of Majeerten is also 8bah) oo
- Rooble Suldaan(Bah Cawrala) ugu weynaa
-Diiriye Suldaan (Bah Muse Care) ugu yaraa

[X.Playa]

We already went through Guuleed branches they are not 12 the are as I listed. Don't confuse Cabdi Ciise with Reer Guuleed. Guuleed baho are not known but his house divides into two large maternal groupings ba canbaro and ba celi and all the rest of his minor sons group into baha Guuleed and baha Abdi.

Faarax shirwac are 6 maternal grouping not 8 .

1- bah ina maxmud ( khalaf, cabdalle, Dalal)
2- bah ina maxamed. ( xirsi)
3- ba mareexaan. (Guuleed)
4- bihi ina Cali ( Cirobe or Caroobe and warsama)
5-bihi ina Dalal ( Cali and Darod )
6- bah dir. ( mahad and cige) .

Reer sultan Diiriye are 8 maternal groupings:
1- ba Aadan madoobe
2- ba celi
3- ba awl ( Ciise muse)
4- ba. Madheedho
5- ba Mardal
6- ba ceebla
7- ba Cawrala
8- ba makaahiil

[BestPlaya]

Ree Suldaan according to some reliable eidagala source.
Rooble. (Bah Cawrala)
Suldan Faarax. (Bah Canbaro)
Ducaale. (Bah Canbaro)
Cabdi. (Bah Canbaro)
Cali. (Bah Canbaro)
Jaamac. (Bah Saleebaan)
Cigaal. (Bah Saleebaan)
Yuusuf. (Bah Saleebaan)
Gaataa. ??
Magan. ?? (Legendary figure but no living progeny)
Warfaa. (Bah Bartire)
Diiriye. (Bah Muse Care)

Faarax Suldaan wuxuu dhalay 7(and more l think)
Xirsi jabane
Warsame.
Xasan
Nuur Tayo (Bah iido)
Maxamad (Bah iijo)
Hurre (Bah Ogaden)
Warfaa. (Bah Ogaden)
Waa runta Faarax Shirwac waa 6Bah .thanks for the Correction .waxaan Ku qalday bahooyinka shirwac Cigale.Laakin Waa Bihina Dolaal not bihina Dalal

For your info,There is Bah adan Mobode in Sugulle ceynaashe .Isku soo duduub oo Ree Suldaan Diiriye waa Bah Makaahil iyo Baha Diiriye.


P.s.Ree Suldaan Guleed's traditional enemies were Guleed Allamagan. The Landhere of ree Cali,ree lsahaaq.

[Bandit]

Nalaye Ahmed is 17 generation cynash is 13 generation if you go back 4 generation from nalaye Ahmed you would have ugaryahan which is supposed to be equivalent to the isaaq sub clan mentioned comparing ugaryahan to that small sub clan is like comparing elephant to a fly

[X.Playa]

We already went through Guuleed branches they are not 12 the are as I listed. Don't confuse Cabdi Ciise with Reer Guuleed. Guuleed baho are not known but his house divides into two large maternal groupings ba canbaro and ba celi and all the rest of his minor sons group into baha Guuleed and baha Abdi.

Faarax shirwac are 6 maternal grouping not 8 .

1- bah ina maxmud ( khalaf, cabdalle, Dalal)
2- bah ina maxamed. ( xirsi)
3- ba mareexaan. (Guuleed)
4- bihi ina Cali ( Cirobe or Caroobe and warsama)
5-bihi ina Dalal ( Cali and Darod )
6- bah dir. ( mahad and cige) .

Reer sultan Diiriye are 8 maternal groupings:
1- ba Aadan madoobe
2- ba celi
3- ba awl ( Ciise muse)
4- ba. Madheedho
5- ba Mardal
6- ba ceebla
7- ba Cawrala
8- ba makaahiil

All those three are Reer sugulle and the bottom 5 are Reer Diiriye sugulle. My mistake I confused the tribal table.

[barbarossa]

We already went through Guuleed branches they are not 12 the are as I listed. Don't confuse Cabdi Ciise with Reer Guuleed. Guuleed baho are not known but his house divides into two large maternal groupings ba canbaro and ba celi and all the rest of his minor sons group into baha Guuleed and baha Abdi.

Faarax shirwac are 6 maternal grouping not 8 .

1- bah ina maxmud ( khalaf, cabdalle, Dalal)
2- bah ina maxamed. ( xirsi)
3- ba mareexaan. (Guuleed)
4- bihi ina Cali ( Cirobe or Caroobe and warsama)
5-bihi ina Dalal ( Cali and Darod )
6- bah dir. ( mahad and cige) .

Reer sultan Diiriye are 8 maternal groupings:
1- ba Aadan madoobe
2- ba celi
3- ba awl ( Ciise muse)
4- ba. Madheedho
5- ba Mardal
6- ba ceebla
7- ba Cawrala
8- ba makaahiil

Xplayer, maad Dhammapada saa u xafidid.

[X.Playa]

Nalaye Ahmed is 17 generation cynash is 13 generation if you go back 4 generation from nalaye Ahmed you would have ugaryahan which is supposed to be equivalent to the isaaq sub clan mentioned comparing ugaryahan to that small sub clan is like comparing elephant to a fly

Cabdalle Cumar Cali Naaleeye Axmed lived at the same time as Xirsi Ammaan Diiriye Sugulle Caynaashe.

So both subclans can be compared. Who counts 17 and 13 generations to the 1850s? Are you nuts or some dude lied to you.

[X.Playa]

We already went through Guuleed branches they are not 12 the are as I listed. Don't confuse Cabdi Ciise with Reer Guuleed. Guuleed baho are not known but his house divides into two large maternal groupings ba canbaro and ba celi and all the rest of his minor sons group into baha Guuleed and baha Abdi.

Faarax shirwac are 6 maternal grouping not 8 .

1- bah ina maxmud ( khalaf, cabdalle, Dalal)
2- bah ina maxamed. ( xirsi)
3- ba mareexaan. (Guuleed)
4- bihi ina Cali ( Cirobe or Caroobe and warsama)
5-bihi ina Dalal ( Cali and Darod )
6- bah dir. ( mahad and cige) .

Reer sultan Diiriye are 8 maternal groupings:
1- ba Aadan madoobe
2- ba celi
3- ba awl ( Ciise muse)
4- ba. Madheedho
5- ba Mardal
6- ba ceebla
7- ba Cawrala
8- ba makaahiil

Xplayer, maad Dhammapada saa u xafidid.

Waxba ma akhridaan miyaa its in the book British survey of clans between 1944-1950 , 6 years of collecting data on all thing Somali by Hunt.

[BestPlaya]

Who are the Bah Celi in Ree Suldaan Guleed?.

[X.Playa]

Ba Celi :

Maxamed suldan
Sugulle suldan
Amare suldaan

[Bandit]

Nalaye Ahmed is 17 generation cynash is 13 generation if you go back 4 generation from nalaye Ahmed you would have ugaryahan which is supposed to be equivalent to the isaaq sub clan mentioned comparing ugaryahan to that small sub clan is like comparing elephant to a fly

Cabdalle Cumar Cali Naaleeye Axmed lived at the same time as Xirsi Ammaan Diiriye Sugulle Caynaashe.

So both subclans can be compared. Who counts 17 and 13 generations to the 1850s? Are you nuts or some dude lied to you.

read the book carefully left of the names it tells you how many generation removed they are
what i wrote was from the survey itself

[X.Playa]

And Mr genius what the f is that has to do with anything?

The book doesn't say anything about 13 or 17 generation elapsed since the 1800s nor does the book compares any clans.

[Bandit]

And Mr genius what the f is that has to do with anything?

The book doesn't say anything about 13 or 17 generation elapsed since the 1800s nor does the book compares any clans.

It does clearly look in the first paragraph
http://i.imgur.com/G9QEk2r.jpg
Now compare nalaye ahmed
http://i.imgur.com/hljJbFr.jpg
Here to the isaaq sub clans
http://i.imgur.com/MbTte6R.jpg