paperino wrote:
ight. If it comes down to conventional war, Russia doesn't stand a chance. We all know how they were humiliated by the Mujahideens. If the Syrian rebels are equipped with the right arms/weapons, Russia would flee Syria.
It depends on where? If in Syria then yes, the Russians cannot win against a full blown air war in Syria. They never intended to fight a war in the first place. IF the US goes full retard and attacks them, they will inflict heavy casualties and try to pull out and save what they can.
A ground war is out of the question because the Syrian civil war showed what a large infantry force can do with second generation ATGMs, the rebels were killing Syrian Tanks like fish in a barrel.
They are equipped with the "right " weapons.
The reason you dont see SAA tanks blowing up anymore on youtube is because the Russians have retrained and re-equiped the Syrians with ERA armour and are even new T-90's with active defense.
The US didnt believe in active defense and like the Europeans it is behind in this field, meaning it tanks are vulnerable.
Ironically the Isrealis and Russians are the world leaders in this technology, and the isrealis are lucky that allot of the people that worked on the Russian systems in 80's were jews that immigrated .
AbdiWahab252 wrote:
The Russians are a shell of their former selves. Their navy is derelict. They barely won the Georgian war. They were used to bluffing a weak President Obama but Trump is unpredictable.
You can not like the Big Bad Yankee but they are a much more ruthless unforgiving enemy than the paper tiger in Moscow.
Allot has happened since 2008, and even then it was in the middle of its re-organization.
Russia is not the Soviet Union and does not have to launch a massive invasion of Europe.
It has a defensive posture and within 1000km of its border it is vastly superior to NATO.
It has limited power projection capabilities and Syria is a stretch, the whole point of the Syrian campaign is to use minimum resources to keep the Syrians alive and fighting, and helping to retrain them.
This is working very well as you can see.
As for it being a drain on the Russian economy, this whole thing is within their annual training budget.
They just moved the training to Syria, so they can keep this deployment indefinitely it costs them practically nothing extra.
The most important thing is experience, this war has provided valuable experience, along with the Ukraine.
Think of it as the Russians getting a sample exam before preparing for the real one, and the US relying on second observations of
someone else that took the test, and rumours..
The US is not prepared for a conventional war, it has not fought one since Korea. Gulf war 1 and 2 were video games
and they couldnt defeat the Taliban when they are alone and without support, while the Soviets faced the mujahideen with unlimmited support.
