HBO cancels K'naan's Mogadishu, Minnesota Show

[DaacasBiyo]

They want to be seen as Pirates but not terrorists? That sounds like Pepper or pepperoni or whatever that slow kid's name is. Somalis that played pirates also played terrorists. Your argument is null and void.

First, It's the same guy who got his foot through the door playing the pirate. Second, how many Somalis lined up for this role. Third, how come we don't see Somalis playing terrorists if they really like to be portrayed as muzzie terrorists.
So the argument still stands strong.

ashamed and not wanting to be seen wearing muzzie attires



Yeah sure there buddy

As for this video, first I don't know if it's her because we only see this covered woman for a fraction of a sec, second they only show the side of her face, third if it's even her, she must have been paid millions, heck they go to Dubai dance for Arabs, so this is just business and forth, this new trend of big corporations glamorizing hijab is more about profit making and selling products than sensitizing their white public to the muzzie ideology.

Good try tho, I'll give you 5/10 for the effort.

[DaacasBiyo]

Lol@ pirates are seen as something cool in the west .. put the bottle down gaalyahow. Somalis are proud of being muslims nd they are right to be against any narrative that paints them as terrorists. What i was arguing is that someone els will make the show anyways so why not just let your brother make it. Tell him to show what most of somalis look like too. Not only the few misguided ones.

Well that's exactly what k'naan was probably going to do, I don't think he was planning on portraying his community as a bunch of terrorists so why did they then refuse to participate? I think they refused to participate not because they were afraid that he was gonna portray them as terrorists but because they were really ashamed to be seen on a nation tv wearing muzzie attires. They are a very successful hard working people who built great businesses in the short amount of time they've been there, a true American success story but for some reason they were ashamed to show it and I think religion has something to do with it, you can deny it all you want but it has something to do with it.

[mahadalla]

We all know Jebertis where jealous of K'naan a HG, it was pretty much clan motivated and everyone who hate HG participated,
You know what they say " Jealousy releases anger and anger is the greatest and the ultimate enemy that can forever determine your judgement and ultimately withhold your destiny" and that is what they are my enemies envy me and K'naan have moved on to his other projects.

we HG don't don't care, when someone is hating us, It’s about them. It’s their fear, their jealously, and their insecurity and it only makes us stronger.

[xisaabiye1]

The zoo animals were saved from irreversible shame

[sav12600]

We all know Jebertis where jealous of K'naan a HG, it was pretty much clan motivated and everyone who hate HG participated,
You know what they say " Jealousy releases anger and anger is the greatest and the ultimate enemy that can forever determine your judgement and ultimately withhold your destiny" and that is what they are my enemies envy me and K'naan have moved on to his other projects.

we HG don't don't care, when someone is hating us, It’s about them. It’s their fear, their jealously, and their insecurity and it only makes us stronger.

Go cry me a river

[Prlnce]

They want to be seen as Pirates but not terrorists? That sounds like Pepper or pepperoni or whatever that slow kid's name is. Somalis that played pirates also played terrorists. Your argument is null and void.

First, It's the same guy who got his foot through the door playing the pirate. Second, how many Somalis lined up for this role. Third, how come we don't see Somalis playing terrorists if they really like to be portrayed as muzzie terrorists.
So the argument still stands strong.

ashamed and not wanting to be seen wearing muzzie attires



Yeah sure there buddy

As for this video, first I don't know if it's her because we only see this covered woman for a fraction of a sec, second they only show the side of her face, third if it's even her, she must have been paid millions, heck they go to Dubai dance for Arabs, so this is just business and forth, this new trend of big corporations glamorizing hijab is more about profit making and selling products than sensitizing their white public to the muzzie ideology.

Good try tho, I'll give you 5/10 for the effort.

I will give incomplete for making excuses not even worth a mark...

First point Muslims are okay with being seen as pirates but not terrorist. They lined up for the Tom Hanks movie just like they lined up for the K'naan. They were in the cast of K'naan show. So you are factually wrong. Yes the same actor that played a Pirate did play a terrorist that disproving your point again don't want to be seen as Terrorist. He took a terrorist role...and nobody protested or cried.

Second excuse I don't know if that's her because excuses excuses excuses...
Well it is her in her in all her Muslim glory and attire you said they are afraid and ashamed.

Now your options are double down like pepper or pepperoni whatever that slow kids name is or you can concede the point.

[InaSamaale]

Good riddance. Love K'naan but this was dissapointing.


To say that he would be able to tell our story in a good light, when the parameters of the narrative have already been set up is naive. K'naan was there as the native informant to legitimise this obviously propagandistic nonsense.


We have enough negative stories about us without one of our own adding to it. There are so many inspiring cinematic stories about Somalis in the US, why not choose one of those ?

An activist should take the lead in challenging current ideas. The jihadi youth story is both play out and harmful to everyday Muslims.



To compare this to Captain Phillips is also unfair. They're both *wrong* but one has very real consequences both politically and on an individual level which puts a lot of us in danger.


I know some of you males have the luxury to blend in but when you're obvious Muslim, you can't, some of us are more affected by narratives such as this.....

[DaacasBiyo]

Good riddance. Love K'naan but this was dissapointing.


To say that he would be able to tell our story in a good light, when the parameters of the narrative have already been set up is naive. K'naan was there as the native informant to legitimise this obviously propagandistic nonsense.


We have enough negative stories about us without one of our own adding to it. There are so many inspiring cinematic stories about Somalis in the US, why not choose one of those ?

An activist should take the lead in challenging current ideas. The jihadi youth story is both play out and harmful to everyday Muslims.



To compare this to Captain Phillips is also unfair. They're both *wrong* but one has very real consequences both politically and on an individual level which puts a lot of us in danger.


I know some of you males have the luxury to blend in but when you're obvious Muslim, you can't, some of us are more affected by narratives such as this.....

I think you are being to unfair towards k'naan, if you really dig deep you'll find that there has not been any Somali who has done more to promote a good and positive image of Somalis than him, this is a guy who has waved the Somalis flag while being watch by millions and millions of people around the world during the 2010 world cup and I did not not even mention his music and how he always talks about Somalia and want only good things for his country so I wouldn't call that being an informant. As for your last point, I understand that wearing this ugly ninja attire ain't easy and that the bad image it conjures has been created by the Arabs themselves and Somalis are just victims of these lunatics political ideology, so my opinion would be to sisters like you to then take over this attire and customize it to your own traditional culture, it's not like you gals don't have fashion designers, you got the Mataano. Damn, they sexy too.

[InaSamaale]

DacaasBiyo, I am not taking away from the previous activism & good work K'naan did. It is actually because of that, I hold him to higher standards.

K'naan is human and thus falliable. I can disagree with him without trying to ex-communicate him.



However, I know you are educated enough to know who is calling the shots. This pilot was never Knaans idea nor did he possess any serious control. It was brought to him for the sole purpose of being the native informant. HBO already has been under fire for racism and stereotyping of Muslims with their show Homeland.


They dumped it with good reason, I wish the protests were a bit moreo peaceful but good on the community.


As for your last bit, you can spare me the patronising advice. I'm good mate.

[DaacasBiyo]

Calling the shots? The Arabs with their petrodollars don't also call the shots so you can't fault the brother for working with the establishment, and if you hold him to a higher standards then you shouldn't be worried about him showing bad images of his community. I think this whole thing was about Somalis being ashamed of being shown and seen as Muslims, it had nothing to do with k'naan. As for my last statement, it was not meant to be patronizing, I apologize if that's how it came off but nonetheless, many Somali women feel the way you feel, this ain't our culture and I will continue to oppose it and I was just giving you a pointer on how to reclaim it, that's all.

[InaSamaale]

Calling the shots? The Arabs with their petrodollars don't also call the shots so you can't fault the brother for working with the establishment, and if you hold him to a higher standards then you shouldn't be worried about him showing bad images of his community. I think this whole thing was about Somalis being ashamed of being shown and seen as Muslims, it had nothing to do with k'naan. As for my last statement, it was not meant to be patronizing, I apologize if that's how it came off but nonetheless, many Somali women feel the way you feel, this ain't our culture and I will continue to oppose it and I was just giving you a pointer on how to reclaim it, that's all.

Somalis ashamed of being seen as Muslims? Get outta here.

You can fault Somalis for many things, but appearing Muslim is something we are very comfortable with. This is seen in the higher rates of hijab wearing compared to other Muslim cultures in the West. Many things can be forgiven in our culture, but not appearing Muslim is a big one. Like you can not pray & wear hijab but the other way around is a problem. (don't agree with it but its the reality)


The medium he is using won't allow it. Nothing against K'Naan. Hollywood has always been a tool to white wash historical events and a means to further the US cultural imperialism on the globe. Why would this time be any different?


Apology accepted. Culture isn't something stagnant. It is dynamic. You just don't like the hijab that is your issue but its part of our culture. I rock my baati at home, dirac/guntiino to weddings & hijab outside. I am probably way more 'cultured' than you....

[paperino]

I think this whole thing was about Somalis being ashamed of being shown and seen as Muslims

As usual, Dacas makes no sense. His claim that Somalis are 'ashamed of being shown and seen as Muslims' has no basis.

[DaacasBiyo]

Somalis ashamed of being seen as Muslims? Get outta here.

If you watch the video, you'll notice that their complain is mainly religious.

You can fault Somalis for many things, but appearing Muslim is something we are very comfortable with. This is seen in the higher rates of hijab wearing compared to other Muslim cultures in the West. Many things can be forgiven in our culture, but not appearing Muslim is a big one. Like you can not pray & wear hijab but the other way around is a problem. (don't agree with it but its the reality)

You are absolutely right here, we are more easily brainwashable than other people

The medium he is using won't allow it. Nothing against K'Naan. Hollywood has always been a tool to white wash historical events and a means to further the US cultural imperialism on the globe. Why would this time be any different?

I see you read my thread Documents expose how Hollywood promotes war on behalf of the Pentagon, CIA and NSA
Can you explain that to this ignorant muzzie clown peperoni who lives in the clouds and isn't aware of that.

Apology accepted. Culture isn't something stagnant. It is dynamic. You just don't like the hijab that is your issue but its part of our culture. I rock my baati at home, dirac/guntiino to weddings & hijab outside. I am probably way more 'cultured' than you....

Yes, culture is dynamic and we should be able to go back to our original culture and I am sorry to disagree with you here but this Arab culture is not our culture. We have a 5000 year old culture and not a 1300 year old one and that's being generous since Somalis became Muslims much later on. We have been robbed of our identity and this is part of the reason why we are in such a bad shape today and it's time we reclaim our history and culture.

[InaSamaale]

The youth raised issues of;


-Negative representation of POC in Hollywood
-Risks of stereotyping extremist characters to all Somalis
-K'naan hijacking the locals experience
-Kathyrn Brigelow's previous problematic work of Muslims


.......yet all you got at was that, they have a problem being represented as "Muslim". I think you're projecting your own insecurities tbh.


Thanks for the video, always nice to see young people stand up for what they believe in. The boy is especially well spoken.

[DaacasBiyo]

The youth raised issues of;

-Negative representation of POC in Hollywood

Lol, like if their ghetto azz is gonna change Hollywood. (Don't sugarcoat it, this is a religious issue)

-Risks of stereotyping extremist characters to all Somalis

Again related to religion

-K'naan hijacking the locals experience

Lol, what local experience? working in a mall? They should be happy a famous internationally known Somali like k'naan even bothered to make a series about their 'minihopeless' town like Basra put it. (Again religion related, k'naan wasn't 'hijacking' anything, they're ashamed that's all)

-Kathyrn Brigelow's previous problematic work of Muslims

Please! Give me a break, Somalis in minihopeless malls complaining about Hollywood and Hurtlocker. (Again complaining about being stereotyped as Muslims is related to religion)

.......yet all you got at was that, they have a problem being represented as "Muslim". I think you're projecting your own insecurities tbh.

The video is almost 17mn long and you came away with only 4 points which are ALL religion related, ok since ur a sista I'll say 2 are religion related and the other 2 are not, so still you are not really convincing and I stand by my premise that this was related to religion and not k'naan.

Thanks for the video, always nice to see young people stand up for what they believe in. The boy is especially well spoken.

Glad you liked it.