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original dervish wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:34 pm Sahal....I have followed your analyses for years....you clearly have an insight into southern politics.
However, apart from detailing shifting alliances and intrigues, there is never an end game.

The be all and end all of Somali politics is to get to the presidency.......there is no vision for the country.
All these groups you mention are clueless....their only policy is that they're with UAE , Turkey etc. :)
Is there such a thing as "Somalia first" with these people?
:lol: NO. Every politician changes quickly after he reaches power and thinks only on how to keep this power by any means.
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The power of the Federal States is a reality. Faaramajo has attempted the impossable. He doesnt control nor has power in the capital nor an inch of land outside of it. If real power resided in Mogadishu the real power be would have ensure he never got elected. But the role is that of a mayor now lol
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Murax wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:16 pm Sahal,

That is why I used to get frustrated with Culusow. Granted Farmaajo hasn’t really accomplished much but at least he has هـمة عالية...carries himself like he is above the powerless regional admins. Culusow meanwhile used to carry himself like a regional Governor.
The regional admins give and take away power from the so called president. Puntland didnt put this system in place for a low level former U.S city employee to dicatate anything to them. The system is working the way we have designed it. Welcome to reality inadeer. We spilled blood and money not to ensure another Siyad Barre never takes over. The power will always be with Federal States without it you can go back to your anarchy!.
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This Doofar of a Preaident send Millions to Somalidiid while they were in active conflict with a super pro Somalia Federal State. There is no national army nor national policy even on Somalidiid. I support Puntland because we have a very clearly policy on Somalidiid. Why would we ever hand power over to this joke called Farmaajo?
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International Community fully knows Puntland will bring the house down on anyone against the Federal System regardless of Qabil. Question the power of Federal States and declare war on one and you have declared war on Puntland and the progress of the last decade beyond unacceptable period!. If Faaraamjo stays President beyond his term I will pay 10 million!
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FarhanYare wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:12 pm If we measure success by the number of Qarax, under Farmaajo we are worser off and make no mistake Farmaajo bragged about his leadership will be a new dawn by taking a jab at his previous predecessors.. Xasan shiiq's return into politics is influenced by that fat annual salary and likewise for the current tool in villa Somalia.
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Failmaajo is a horrible speaker can't talk no charisma no leadership skills culusow was a smooth talker he shaked things up the only difference is culusow had beef with his prime minister. Failmaajo has his brother In law as prime minister wa dowlad candho wadaag ah.
Security wise failmaajo is worse the security in xamar is dead under failmaajo and people selected failmaajo well qatar still helped but they selected him based on security and governance he failed in both.
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Turtle will never be reelected, guul nabad iyo nolol

sahal whats going on in beledweyne i heard clan fighting due to bajaj driver killed!
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Khalid Ali wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 12:48 am Failmaajo is a horrible speaker can't talk no charisma no leadership skills culusow was a smooth talker he shaked things up the only difference is culusow had beef with his prime minister. Failmaajo has his brother In law as prime minister wa dowlad candho wadaag ah.
Security wise failmaajo is worse the security in xamar is dead under failmaajo and people selected failmaajo well qatar still helped but they selected him based on security and governance he failed in both.
Trash iidoor u are not allowed to speak of the President of Mogadishu iyo Hargeisa lol.

Now go back to chewing ur ass still not recognized lol
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Lady nas hows cawaro gaas grow some xiiniyo And fight us
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FarhanYare wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 6:12 pm If we measure success by the number of Qarax, under Farmaajo we are worser off and make no mistake Farmaajo bragged about his leadership will be a new dawn by taking a jab at his previous predecessors.. Xasan shiiq's return into politics is influenced by that fat annual salary and likewise for the current tool in villa Somalia.
You really believe hassan sheikh came back because of the money? Do you really believe that? What is the basis of your belief? Have you seen into his heart? I just want to know how on earth you came to that conclusion! If people like you are thinking like this, and a larger sample of Somalis have this mindset, I see no hope for Somalia.

Do you know that a lot of Darood people oppose hassan sheikh based on qabill, hordada ka kac please
My post is in no way intended to cause any cuqdad to anyone, but its the truth if you cant see it, youre finished

If farmajo had the same leadership and oratory qualities as hassan sheikh, do you think you as a Hawiye person would ever even be allowed to criticise him. He would made made to look like a massaiah, they would support and stand by him ill ugudambeystii and here you are putting things you dont even know on someone hailing from your clan and you know the roots of the criticism he receives is based on qabil, they don't even hide it.
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Murax wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:16 pm Sahal,

That is why I used to get frustrated with Culusow. Granted Farmaajo hasn’t really accomplished much but at least he has هـمة عالية...carries himself like he is above the powerless regional admins. Culusow meanwhile used to carry himself like a regional Governor.
Been ayaad sheegtey
Its only in your eyes because that is how you saw him, you saw him through the prism of qabill, you viewed him as representing a certain qabill and could not see him as a Somali president.

The other reason why he may have appeared like this was the regional admins he was dealing with at the time could also not see him as the president, but someone with the title of the president but a representative of his clan interests and they treated him that way during their meetings and negotiations. The regional admins at the time were also mostly Darood and boy did they oppose him.

Farmaajo is not opposed in the same way, Jubaland (at the beginning) and Putland have always adopted a softer tone towards him and treated his actions with less suspicion and interpretation. Marka he had to deal with them that way
The regional admins are not powerless and have clout so lets not pretend, they have power and clout because the populations they rule over support them in their opposition to the federal government. Assuming HSM tried to exert the little power he had over them, the first people to oppose him would be the likes of you and others who would call him a hawiye dictator trying to impose rule from mogadishu,

Anyhow, Farmaajo despite all the qabill based hype is now a disaster, will see where Somalia goes from here. I dont mind you supporting someone from your qabill, but support someone worth supporting. I am also opposed the idea of opposing and criticising someone and blinding yourself to the good they did because of the qabill they hail from.
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Farmaajo looks aiming top and having a high vision, though one may argue the way he's handling the delicate matter of the regions particularly Kismayo is not top notch. His Government was erected on a 4.5 system, The country is still healing the wounds of the war, the communicates don't integrate, and trust the way they were before the fall of the Barre Government, as there were no real peace-negotiations and forgiveness. With all that in mind, If Farmaajo tries to flex his muscles acting as a powerful cenral government would only lead back to civil war.
As for Hassan Sheikh is concerned, he sees few weak spots that he think he may exploit it to reach the promised land.
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giftshoprad wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:22 am
Murax wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:16 pm Sahal,

That is why I used to get frustrated with Culusow. Granted Farmaajo hasn’t really accomplished much but at least he has هـمة عالية...carries himself like he is above the powerless regional admins. Culusow meanwhile used to carry himself like a regional Governor.
Been ayaad sheegtey
Its only in your eyes because that is how you saw him, you saw him through the prism of qabill, you viewed him as representing a certain qabill and could not see him as a Somali president.

The other reason why he may have appeared like this was the regional admins he was dealing with at the time could also not see him as the president, but someone with the title of the president but a representative of his clan interests and they treated him that way during their meetings and negotiations. The regional admins at the time were also mostly Darood and boy did they oppose him.

Farmaajo is not opposed in the same way, Jubaland (at the beginning) and Putland have always adopted a softer tone towards him and treated his actions with less suspicion and interpretation. Marka he had to deal with them that way
The regional admins are not powerless and have clout so lets not pretend, they have power and clout because the populations they rule over support them in their opposition to the federal government. Assuming HSM tried to exert the little power he had over them, the first people to oppose him would be the likes of you and others who would call him a hawiye dictator trying to impose rule from mogadishu,

Anyhow, Farmaajo despite all the qabill based hype is now a disaster, will see where Somalia goes from here. I dont mind you supporting someone from your qabill, but support someone worth supporting. I am also opposed the idea of opposing and criticising someone and blinding yourself to the good they did because of the qabill they hail from.
Ok wayahayee ee sheeg wuxuu qabtay..
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FarhanYare wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 7:33 am
giftshoprad wrote: Sat Sep 01, 2018 5:22 am
Murax wrote: Fri Aug 31, 2018 4:16 pm Sahal,

That is why I used to get frustrated with Culusow. Granted Farmaajo hasn’t really accomplished much but at least he has هـمة عالية...carries himself like he is above the powerless regional admins. Culusow meanwhile used to carry himself like a regional Governor.
Been ayaad sheegtey
Its only in your eyes because that is how you saw him, you saw him through the prism of qabill, you viewed him as representing a certain qabill and could not see him as a Somali president.

The other reason why he may have appeared like this was the regional admins he was dealing with at the time could also not see him as the president, but someone with the title of the president but a representative of his clan interests and they treated him that way during their meetings and negotiations. The regional admins at the time were also mostly Darood and boy did they oppose him.

Farmaajo is not opposed in the same way, Jubaland (at the beginning) and Putland have always adopted a softer tone towards him and treated his actions with less suspicion and interpretation. Marka he had to deal with them that way
The regional admins are not powerless and have clout so lets not pretend, they have power and clout because the populations they rule over support them in their opposition to the federal government. Assuming HSM tried to exert the little power he had over them, the first people to oppose him would be the likes of you and others who would call him a hawiye dictator trying to impose rule from mogadishu,

Anyhow, Farmaajo despite all the qabill based hype is now a disaster, will see where Somalia goes from here. I dont mind you supporting someone from your qabill, but support someone worth supporting. I am also opposed the idea of opposing and criticising someone and blinding yourself to the good they did because of the qabill they hail from.
Ok wayahayee ee sheeg wuxuu qabtay..
Hadaathan ujeedin oo saan dacaad kaa tahay hee waxbo kuuma qaban karo good luck ayaan kuleyahay

hadaad rabto inaad ogaato, you have internet connection, research so samey markaas waad ogaaneysaa

All the years his been in office adiga halkeed joogtey, inteed ku nolayd?

You need to be taken to the HAG re-education camp
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