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Django wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 11:14 pm Well done Albasti. :shaq:
ninyo I want Cagjar to do well just as I want Aden Duale to keep the Bantus at bay in Kenya, Omar Guelleh doing his thing, the Somali Republic recovering but it looks like in every region there's the usual tribal guulwadayaal who can't even stomach criticism or disagreeing on a topic or issue.

I don't see how opening a new war front with Afar is good for the Somalis. The Issa should deal with their relatives man to man rather than politicising such issue and now the Galla and Addis Ababa will drum up as "All Somalis vs Afar" while Tigrais will equally back Afar because Tigray took Afar land. They want to keep Afar preoccupied and focused on other towns rather than the ones they added to Enderta, Tigray.

Anyways if this war blows up, there's chance ina Cagjar will join Abdi iley in prison.

Afar are no threat to Somalis neither their population nor do they mass migrate into our lands unlike the pest Gallas.

Cagjar is wearing Galla nigis with their flag while sending Liyu to Afar, which can easily be solved and Afar cand Issa can co-exist as they do in Djibouti.

Looks like Lemma Megeresa been promoted to Minister of Defence already produced fruits for the Gallas.
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AwRastaale wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 1:11 am
Django wrote: Fri May 03, 2019 11:14 pm Well done Albasti. :shaq:
ninyo I want Cagjar to do well just as I want Aden Duale to keep the Bantus at bay in Kenya, Omar Guelleh doing his thing, the Somali Republic recovering but it looks like in every region there's the usual tribal guulwadayaal who can't even stomach criticism or disagreeing on a topic or issue.

I don't see how opening a new war front with Afar is good for the Somalis. The Issa should deal with their relatives man to man rather than politicising such issue and now the Galla and Addis Ababa will drum up as "All Somalis vs Afar" while Tigrais will equally back Afar because Tigray took Afar land. They want to keep Afar preoccupied and focused on other towns rather than the ones they added to Enderta, Tigray.

Anyways if this war blows up, there's chance ina Cagjar will join Abdi iley in prison.

Afar are no threat to Somalis neither their population nor do they mass migrate into our lands unlike the pest Gallas.

Cagjar is wearing Galla nigis with their flag while sending Liyu to Afar, which can easily be solved and Afar cand Issa can co-exist as they do in Djibouti.

Looks like Lemma Megeresa been promoted to Minister of Defence already produced fruits for the Gallas.
There is a new war on the horizon in the horn of Africa.
Abye has refused to kick out Chineese from Ethiopia so US are not happy with the Galla.

The Galla are positioning themselves to dorminate the arena.Amhara are looking for a new coalition which they will be at the top of the food chain.

Ina Cagjar is a weakling has no backbone.We need a politicaly survy and shrewd guy to lead the region.The problem is every somali leader in the kilil calooshisa buu ushaqeya.The reason why Lemma visited Iley in jail was to sednd message to cagjar that theycan release Iley.So that is why he accepted his galla masters.
Cagjar will jump as high as oromos want him to jump.
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War is looming between Afar and Somalis orchestrated by Gaalas to divert attention from them. The return the Somali cities is a positive step but it is a new frontier of war while the Gaalas are grabbing more lands from Somalis.
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The closest peaple are always the worst enemies. I think ciise should fox on canfar because they are direct threat to them . Yagaa kaga xun oromada weliba cuqdad bay u qabaan ciisaha. Gaamurtay gaamurtay gaamurtay. Laba nin oo aad col tihiin hadba ka adiga ku neceb baa lagu horeeya kaad necebtahay dibaa loo dhigtaa . Buuga xeeladaha dagaalka ee aadan belaloo turjumay hadii ciisuhu akhristaan, way garan karaan Oromo iyo canfar midka caqabada 1aad ku ah .
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I agree Django and Zidane.

Yusuf,

Nice try but you don't understand this one.

Afar is mere 4 million. Issa and Afar drama is like the Ceel Afweyn one.

The Galla are over 40 impoverished farmers who are running out off land and means of making a living.

They see your land as a way out.

While you see Ogaden and likes of OAF only sees Idoor, they see no difference between you.

Afar is no threat. They have plenty of land, and certainly they not migrating to your lands in the hundreds of thousands.

Besides Galla come with all kinds of social ills a d diseases.

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And that's only one example.

It's also clear the Federal will block any Liyu entry into the towns in question. Definitely, needs dialogue and political resolution rather than a military one. If Afar leaders and their paramilitary are fuelling the conflict than they must join Abdi Iley in his cell.
UPDATED NEWS: SOMALI REGION UNILATERALLY WITHDRAWS FROM 2014 AGREEMENT TRANSFERING THREE KEBELES TO AFAR REGION, BEEFS UP SECURITY

Hayalnesh Gezahegn

Addis Abeba, May 04/2019 – In an extraordinary meeting it held on May 03 in Jigjiga city, the cabinet of Somali Regional State unilaterally withdrew from a 2014 agreement transfering three twons to Afar regional state and nullified the agreement.

It also said it was bolstering “the security and the stability of border areas without crossing the Somali Administrative border.” However, it is not clear if Somali region security forces have moved into the three Kebeles. Addis Standard has requested for clarifications and is waiting for official response.

According to a federal security official, who spoke with Addis Standard on conditions of anonymity, “the three towns are already in the hands of the Federal Military. Afar Liyu Police has been withdrawn after clashes with local Population about three months’s ago. [The Somali regional state forces] will not move into the three towns.”

In a resolution the Somali regional state Cabinet issued late last night the regional state’s cabinet also said: “the regional cabinet has unanimously agreed that the illegal agreement that has transferred the three towns of Garba-Issa, Undufo and Adeytu to the Afar Regional State is an agreement that has no base under the federal constitution while at the same time lacking the will of the same people impacted by the decisions under consideration coupled with a dangerous set of coercion tactics and bad faith as engineered by contrabandists under the cover of Afar Regional state.”

The 2014 agreement three Kebelles which were previously under Somali regional state to Afar regional state. They are: Candhayto, Candhufto & Garbo-Ciise.

The decision by the cabinet came in the immediate wake of reported killings of eleven Somali pastoralists by what witnesses said were members of the Afar regional state special forces. An accusation confirmed by Somali region deputy president Mustafa Omer.

The killings happened deep inside Sitti zone of Somali region not in the disputed three towns, prompting the Somali regional state to deploy its forces to the border areas affected by the conflict with “strict instructions that our forces do not cross into Afar Region territories but protect Somali civilians in the border areas.” Mohamed Olad, communication advisor of President Mustefa Omer told Addis Standard. “We seek a peaceful resolution to the unconstitutional transfer of the three towns (fully inhabited by Somalis who do not want to be under Afar Region) — an illegal, immoral and illogical decision imposed on Somalis by contrabandists who wanted to sow discord between the brotherly Somali and Afar People.”
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Waa in lala hadlaa canfarta- dad kaleh ayaa hoosta ka riixayaaa oo dano kale leh.
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When did aw oromo put on the isaaq skirt? I thought he was sticking to his garxajis skirt kkkkkk
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mahoka wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 5:08 am When did aw oromo put on the isaaq skirt? I thought he was sticking to his garxajis skirt kkkkkk
When I'm responding to those labelling me as such :mrgreen:
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AwRastaale wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 5:13 am
mahoka wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 5:08 am When did aw oromo put on the isaaq skirt? I thought he was sticking to his garxajis skirt kkkkkk
When I'm responding to those labelling me as such :mrgreen:
Why are you against mr cagjar helping out his Somali ciise brothers against the afar?
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Whether you call it drama or war , canfar are direct threat to ciise by Land , security, politics and economy not just kilil 5 but in Djibouti as well . And they are not that strong today so they can be karbaashed easily. At the other hand Oromo are threat to ciise in diredawa only. The difference is diredawa is an Urban area. There is no room for great expansion. Every one lives his own quarter there can be some communal skirmish once in a decade but not a big deal . Would you take the 4 milllion enemy or 40 million one . I would avoid the later by any means .

Every one has his own agenda . That's where we isaaqs stand, I speak on behalf of isaaq policies towards the horn . We don't want any conflict between Oromo and Dir or somali any where , at the moment . It's bad for business. But if Somalis wants to have some blood in their hands , let's unleash the liyuu dogs to the Afar land , they are the easy pick. And we have nothing to loose.
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mahoka wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 5:16 am
AwRastaale wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 5:13 am
mahoka wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 5:08 am When did aw oromo put on the isaaq skirt? I thought he was sticking to his garxajis skirt kkkkkk
When I'm responding to those labelling me as such :mrgreen:
Why are you against mr cagjar helping out his Somali ciise brothers against the afar?
I never said I was. I'm against new unnecessary war in a new front especially people who are compatible with us and are closest of kinship.

Issa and Afar live in Djibouti and the peace has been holding for almost three decades now. There is no need to add gas to a conflict across the border that could create further resentments and mistrust even inside Djibouti.

If Cagjar wants to be a hero, the more fitting conflicts were in Balbale and Moyale where hundreds were killed.

Now he will achieve zero except create Afar hatred because any military action of his will be shut down by federals who will decry we stopping Somali expansion against "Ethiopians".

Even if going to send forces to bolster security at the border don't do it after a meeting declares the dismissal of former accord and reclaim of towns---looks like you are the aggressor now.

Things could be handled so much better.
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All this problems in this thread are coming from the fact that Somali Republic didn't win the 1977 war
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 5:23 am Whether you call it drama or war , canfar are direct threat to ciise by Land , security, politics and economy not just kilil 5 but in Djibouti as well . And they are not that strong today so they can be karbaashed easily. At the other hand Oromo are threat to ciise in diredawa only. The difference is diredawa is an Urban area. There is no room for great expansion. Every one lives his own quarter there can be some communal skirmish once in a decade but not a big deal . Would you take the 4 milllion enemy or 40 million one . I would avoid the later by any means .

Every one has his own agenda . That's where we isaaqs stand, I speak on behalf of isaaq policies towards the horn . We don't want any conflict between Oromo and Dir or somali any where , at the moment . It's bad for business. But if Somalis wants to have some blood in their hands , let's unleash the liyuu dogs to the Afar land , they are the easy pick. And we have nothing to loose.
I don't know why you are scared of oromo you offer war or peace, silver or lead. They have more to lose messing with Somalis as they have many enemies. The liyu police can't do much apart from massacring un armed civilians they're not even allowed to have heavy weapons. This is why Somalis should team up together and supply arms so they can alleast have teknikos with anti aircraft guns
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MajorIgaare wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 8:07 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 5:23 am Whether you call it drama or war , canfar are direct threat to ciise by Land , security, politics and economy not just kilil 5 but in Djibouti as well . And they are not that strong today so they can be karbaashed easily. At the other hand Oromo are threat to ciise in diredawa only. The difference is diredawa is an Urban area. There is no room for great expansion. Every one lives his own quarter there can be some communal skirmish once in a decade but not a big deal . Would you take the 4 milllion enemy or 40 million one . I would avoid the later by any means .

Every one has his own agenda . That's where we isaaqs stand, I speak on behalf of isaaq policies towards the horn . We don't want any conflict between Oromo and Dir or somali any where , at the moment . It's bad for business. But if Somalis wants to have some blood in their hands , let's unleash the liyuu dogs to the Afar land , they are the easy pick. And we have nothing to loose.
I don't know why you are scared of oromo you offer war or peace, silver or lead. They have more to lose messing with Somalis as they have many enemies. The liyu police can't do much apart from massacring un armed civilians they're not even allowed to have heavy weapons. This is why Somalis should team up together and supply arms so they can alleast have teknikos with anti aircraft guns

It's in our best interest. When the situation is Oki between Somalis and the Oromos. We can both survive. Why not teamup with them instead of against them ?
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theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 8:44 am
MajorIgaare wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 8:07 am
theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat May 04, 2019 5:23 am Whether you call it drama or war , canfar are direct threat to ciise by Land , security, politics and economy not just kilil 5 but in Djibouti as well . And they are not that strong today so they can be karbaashed easily. At the other hand Oromo are threat to ciise in diredawa only. The difference is diredawa is an Urban area. There is no room for great expansion. Every one lives his own quarter there can be some communal skirmish once in a decade but not a big deal . Would you take the 4 milllion enemy or 40 million one . I would avoid the later by any means .

Every one has his own agenda . That's where we isaaqs stand, I speak on behalf of isaaq policies towards the horn . We don't want any conflict between Oromo and Dir or somali any where , at the moment . It's bad for business. But if Somalis wants to have some blood in their hands , let's unleash the liyuu dogs to the Afar land , they are the easy pick. And we have nothing to loose.
I don't know why you are scared of oromo you offer war or peace, silver or lead. They have more to lose messing with Somalis as they have many enemies. The liyu police can't do much apart from massacring un armed civilians they're not even allowed to have heavy weapons. This is why Somalis should team up together and supply arms so they can alleast have teknikos with anti aircraft guns

It's in our best interest. When the situation is Oki between Somalis and the Oromos. We can both survive. Why not teamup with them instead of against them ?
You can only be OK when someone respects you. Inan daqaaleahaan siyaasad ahaan iyo security ahaan gumesto oromo ayaan rabaa oo haday is walaan xabashida ku khuukhiyo.
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