Worst British war crimes against Koonfur

[Samatalis249]

The British actually were at one point willing to build a railway to Ethiopia but were rejected by tribal elders. Also the biggest university in Africa which was built in khartum after it was rejected. Gibb was also shot dead in burco after he tried to pit tribes against each other when he wanted to levy a tax to start an education system in SL. The first batch of educated people were the adna Aden ali Khalif silanyo generation.

We could have also had all of Somaliweyn apart from Djibouti if the SYL decided to do dowlada dakhiliga with the British instead of the Italians. We had that offer it was called the bevin plan.

The world is about interests, you can’t blame the British for adding there colonial holdings to their allies instead of giving it to an Italian ally they just defeated in ww2. The only one they gave independence to was SL and we joined Somalia so they were infact proven right in there decision.

[Voltage]

The British actually were at one point willing to build a railway to Ethiopia but were rejected by tribal elders. Also the biggest university in Africa which was built in khartum after it was rejected. Gibb was also shot dead in burco after he tried to pit tribes against each other when he wanted to levy a tax to start an education system in SL. The first batch of educated people were the adna Aden ali Khalif silanyo generation.

We could have also had all of Somaliweyn apart from Djibouti if the SYL decided to do dowlada dakhiliga with the British instead of the Italians. We had that offer it was called the bevin plan.

The world is about interests, you can’t blame the British for adding there colonial holdings to their allies instead of giving it to an Italian ally they just defeated in ww2. The only one they gave independence to was SL and we joined Somalia so they were infact proven right in there decision.

No, no, and no. This is call "mythologizing." It's how bs revisionism ends up becoming folklore and then unwittingly expressed as history from the non-literate corners.

For example, on the second point, never mind that I LITERALLY have (and it's all online) the exact recorded UN Security Council deliberations on what to do with defeated Italy's colonies, including the developement and presentation of the Bevin plan and it's REJECTION by the Security Council including the US and Soviets on the INTENSE LOBBYING by Ethiopia---it wasn't even pushed at all by Britain who shrugged her shoulders---nevermind all of that, but -LOGICALLY one could already, USING COMMON SENSE, know there was simply no relevance or basis for the assumption of "SYL dhawakhlayn" between Itaky and Britain because by virtue of losing WWII, Italy had absolutely 0 powers and it was for that reason her possessions were being decided by others in the first place.

Never mine that Italy herself had her fate decided by that same Council!

Please, do not approach others with such embarrassing fallacies going further. It's 2020, information is more accessible than ever hefore. Take advantage of and learn rhe the difference between fact and fiction. My advice is if you can't source it, don't bring it to others.

[sahal80]

SYL voted for trusteeship under the 4 major powers option bc British were not sincere and their plans were part of their agenda of strengthening their position in the world which is why the Americans and Soviets opposed their "Somaliweyn" plans. all Somali territories including koonfur were under the british military adminstration. SYL was following the saying that goes "dont put your eggs in one basket" only USA accepted that option(4 powers) France and russia voted for italy that is how italy won it. british motherfuckers rewarded Hawd to Ethiopia glad SYL did not trust them. do you know that britain promised the same thing to the arabs if they revolt against Ottomans who were controlling palestine?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.iris ... 3fmode=amp



https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4Yt ... rs&f=false

[samatar133]

SYL voted for trusteeship under the 4 major powers option bc British were not sincere and their plans were part of their agenda of strengthening their position in the world which is why the Americans and Soviets opposed their "Somaliweyn" plans. all Somali territories including koonfur were under the british military adminstration. SYL was following the saying that goes "dont put your eggs in one basket" only USA accepted that option(4 powers) France and russia voted for italy that is how italy won it. british motherfuckers rewarded Hawd to Ethiopia glad SYL did not trust them. do you know that britain promised the same thing to the arabs if they revolt against Ottomans who were controlling palestine?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.iris ... 3fmode=amp



https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4Yt ... rs&f=false

SYL were lowlife lackeys of Italy, they rejected a good British plan which intended to keep all Somaliweyn under one rule. Now a days they’re regarded as some sort of good Somali nationalists which’s not true.

[Samatalis249]

SYL voted for trusteeship under the 4 major powers option bc British were not sincere and their plans were part of their agenda of strengthening their position in the world which is why the Americans and Soviets opposed their "Somaliweyn" plans. all Somali territories including koonfur were under the british military adminstration. SYL was following the saying that goes "dont put your eggs in one basket" only USA accepted that option(4 powers) France and russia voted for italy that is how italy won it. british motherfuckers rewarded Hawd to Ethiopia glad SYL did not trust them. do you know that britain promised the same thing to the arabs if they revolt against Ottomans who were controlling palestine?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.iris ... 3fmode=amp



https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4Yt ... rs&f=false

SYL were lowlife lackeys of Italy, they rejected a good British plan which intended to keep all Somaliweyn under one rule. Now a days they’re taunted as some sort of good Somali nationalists which’s not true.

I wouldn’t go down the road of calling people lackeys and fighting over writing history books and creating narratives like some Somalis have. It was just a bad call.

[Samatalis249]

SYL voted for trusteeship under the 4 major powers option bc British were not sincere and their plans were part of their agenda of strengthening their position in the world which is why the Americans and Soviets opposed their "Somaliweyn" plans. all Somali territories including koonfur were under the british military adminstration. SYL was following the saying that goes "dont put your eggs in one basket" only USA accepted that option(4 powers) France and russia voted for italy that is how italy won it. british motherfuckers rewarded Hawd to Ethiopia glad SYL did not trust them. do you know that britain promised the same thing to the arabs if they revolt against Ottomans who were controlling palestine?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.iris ... 3fmode=amp



https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4Yt ... rs&f=false

I think the Arab situation and the Somali one are totally different. The Arabs were under the Ottomans and revolted against them they made a deal with the sharif of Mecca they doubled crossed the double crosser. Somalis were all under British rule. The British lost SL in ww2 then counter attacked and captured Eritrea Ethiopia SL SOM SG and NFD all at once. They gave ethiopia back to selasie without SG they only gave SG away to them when SYL rejected there allyship. If they accepted the British rule what is the worse thing that could have happened than what actually happened.

[samatar133]

SYL voted for trusteeship under the 4 major powers option bc British were not sincere and their plans were part of their agenda of strengthening their position in the world which is why the Americans and Soviets opposed their "Somaliweyn" plans. all Somali territories including koonfur were under the british military adminstration. SYL was following the saying that goes "dont put your eggs in one basket" only USA accepted that option(4 powers) France and russia voted for italy that is how italy won it. british motherfuckers rewarded Hawd to Ethiopia glad SYL did not trust them. do you know that britain promised the same thing to the arabs if they revolt against Ottomans who were controlling palestine?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.iris ... 3fmode=amp



https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4Yt ... rs&f=false

SYL were lowlife lackeys of Italy, they rejected a good British plan which intended to keep all Somaliweyn under one rule. Now a days they’re taunted as some sort of good Somali nationalists which’s not true.

I wouldn’t go down the road of calling people lackeys and fighting over writing history books and creating narratives like some Somalis have. It was just a bad call.

No, they were power hungry lackeys. They had to choose between Somaliweyn plan, and internal rule under italian trusteeship. They chose the later, most probably because of their power hunger and shortsightedness.

[sahal80]

SYL voted for trusteeship under the 4 major powers option bc British were not sincere and their plans were part of their agenda of strengthening their position in the world which is why the Americans and Soviets opposed their "Somaliweyn" plans. all Somali territories including koonfur were under the british military adminstration. SYL was following the saying that goes "dont put your eggs in one basket" only USA accepted that option(4 powers) France and russia voted for italy that is how italy won it. british motherfuckers rewarded Hawd to Ethiopia glad SYL did not trust them. do you know that britain promised the same thing to the arabs if they revolt against Ottomans who were controlling palestine?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.iris ... 3fmode=amp



https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=4Yt ... rs&f=false

SYL were lowlife lackeys of Italy, they rejected a good British plan which intended to keep all Somaliweyn under one rule. Now a days they’re regarded as some sort of good Somali nationalists which’s not true.

Samatar, after mussolini italy was defeated, the allied powers formed a council of their fms that deals with ex italian colonies like lebya, eritrea, somalia albania and so on and the british FM was one of them. it was up to them not the SYL to put us under wich nation they want. not only Somalia they decided about lebya and lept eritrea with ethiopia and france and russia voted for italy in Somalia and US for the 4 powers that means the majority gone for italy. however, the british tried to use the SYL and they got supported by Mj who wanted uniting Darood under one country. before the unity, Abdullshi isse was the pm, adan cade was the speaker and sh ali jimaale was caafimaadka iyo shaqaalaha he built xamar airport and many buildings in baladweyne they call us kombowdha bc he had coombo at his office and used to ask the people whats this name? onlu employing those who say joombowdha until all people learned this accent. mj had the interior minister and he got fired by ciise before the union. after the union, Nothern Darods changed the balance in SYLs central committee the same ex hawiye committee that voted for the 4 powers. Daroods were backing britains somaliwayn idea cause its them who live in ethiopia and Kenya.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=JpN ... rs&f=false

listen cigaal he got only welcomed by mj(muuse boqor) not for somalinimo just to unite with their nothern harti brothers. when nothern harti joined they empowered mj pm option and voted for adan cadde in the central committee as the SYLs candidate this is why Sh ali jimcaale run for president from the outside of the committee backed by cigaal so the north can have the pm and there started the mudulood-mj power sharing both of them koonfur!

hawiye were against immidiate union with waqooyi they suggested first to have a common ground like language there was no a writting somali language we dont speak english you dont speak italian. when the two states make ready the language then we shall unite as two independent countries. your suufi salfudeed isaaq said No and now they r blaiming us. only isaaq were wadaniyiin hawiye and were qabiilists already

when dhulos wrote this
"as soon as the independence was gained and Somalia reunited, The parliaments, the Northern and Southern one, were merged and a government of National Unity was agreed to be formed. The SNL under the leadership of Cigaal made an idealogical and tribal alliance with a faction headed by Cali Jimcaale, a Xawaadle man filled with noxious anti-Daaroodism, as they inaugurated a Pan-Irir political initiative that ultimately came to nought"

http://cilmiile.blogspot.com/2007/08/ma ... n.html?m=1

[PrinceNugaalHawd]

I don’t understand why people make up lies & claim only Darood live in NFD & Somali Galbeed, but when it comes to power sharing, Population, Territory or Development everyone wants to claim they live in those regions!! Daad hypocrisy kaa buuxda & Darood nacayb is reeking from them, maxa tolow lagu sameyaay?

When those territories where given away Somalis were protesting everywhere Not just Darood areas, but all Somalis you can see videos from Hargaisa & other places! Darood didn’t convince people to protest but because they also live there!

And how do ppl just claim his lady was “Not Local but Majerteen” how many “Locals” had Italian Children?

[theyuusuf143]

I don’t understand why people make up lies & claim only Darood live in NFD & Somali Galbeed, but when it comes to power sharing, Population, Territory or Development everyone wants to claim they live in those regions!! Daad hypocrisy kaa buuxda & Darood nacayb is reeking from them, maxa tolow lagu sameyaay?

When those territories where given away Somalis were protesting everywhere Not just Darood areas, but all Somalis you can see videos from Hargaisa & other places! Darood didn’t convince people to protest but because they also live there!

And how do ppl just claim his lady was “Not Local but Majerteen” how many “Locals” had Italian Children?

The biggest reason we joined with the qadaadweyn was because of hawd and reserve area. If you read Qaybe book. The mad mullah son was with Haile sellase . So ironically a dhuloos and isaaq were seeking for hawd Independence while the ogaden son of mahamed Abdule Hassan was servin for king sellasie. It's not true that only daarood or ogaaden wanted the Somali unity. Every body wanted United somalilands .