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Gedo is diverse. East of Juba River, DM are the majority. Most villages under Luuq and Baardheere are DM majority. Ceelwaaq is Garre majority. Garre are part of DM. Cawlyahan, Dir, Ajuuraan and others also inhabit Gedo.

AwBakayle wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:40 am Gedo is diverse. East of Juba River, DM are the majority. Most villages under Luuq and Baardheere are DM majority. Ceelwaaq is Garre majority. Garre are part of DM. Cawlyahan, Dir, Ajuuraan and others also inhabit Gedo.

Garre got pushed out in 05 and they hold nothing in Ceelwaaq but in name only. All the troops in Ceelwaaq from Jubbaland are my jiffo and those from the Reer Guuri. Luuq and Baardhere is majority MX now with Rahanweyn doing our farm labor we pay them. Gedo is long gone. Representation, yes I am not against that. But the degaan is MX majority. The six star bullshit will never come true.

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:59 am

AwBakayle wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:40 am Gedo is diverse. East of Juba River, DM are the majority. Most villages under Luuq and Baardheere are DM majority. Ceelwaaq is Garre majority. Garre are part of DM. Cawlyahan, Dir, Ajuuraan and others also inhabit Gedo.

Garre got pushed out in 05 and they hold nothing in Ceelwaaq but in name only. All the troops in Ceelwaaq from Jubbaland are my jiffo and those from the Reer Guuri. Luuq and Baardhere is majority MX now with Rahanweyn doing our farm labor we pay them. Gedo is long gone. Representation, yes I am not against that. But the degaan is MX majority. The six star bullshit will never come true.

So the seats in Jubbaland are allocated based on muscle and tribal dominance? Based on that logic your juffo should get not seats in KG and seats totaling no more than the Saleban or Cayr in Galmudug

AwBakayle wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:40 am Gedo is diverse. East of Juba River, DM are the majority. Most villages under Luuq and Baardheere are DM majority. Ceelwaaq is Garre majority. Garre are part of DM. Cawlyahan, Dir, Ajuuraan and others also inhabit Gedo.

BuloXawo was a majority Degodie, Murule, Garre city until the influx of MX from Galgaduud and Shilabo who displaced the natives.

Rahanweyn people are too generous. At the same time they know they control the majority of the seats so they don't care. I am really convinced Rahanweyn are the most politically mature group in Somalia.

AbdiWahab252 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:03 pm

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:59 am

AwBakayle wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:40 am Gedo is diverse. East of Juba River, DM are the majority. Most villages under Luuq and Baardheere are DM majority. Ceelwaaq is Garre majority. Garre are part of DM. Cawlyahan, Dir, Ajuuraan and others also inhabit Gedo.

Garre got pushed out in 05 and they hold nothing in Ceelwaaq but in name only. All the troops in Ceelwaaq from Jubbaland are my jiffo and those from the Reer Guuri. Luuq and Baardhere is majority MX now with Rahanweyn doing our farm labor we pay them. Gedo is long gone. Representation, yes I am not against that. But the degaan is MX majority. The six star bullshit will never come true.

So the seats in Jubbaland are allocated based on muscle and tribal dominance? Based on that logic your juffo should get not seats in KG and seats totaling no more than the Saleban or Cayr in Galmudug

Unlike Voltage or any other liberal MX. I know Somalia is dog eat dog world. My sub clan has been in Gedo since early 1800s. I'm not a guest to my degaan. And Garre and Degodiya started numerous conflicts such as siding with USC in 91 and Garre in 05. The response was appropriate to their crime(s). Today we've made up and all is good. They now know better NOT to side with our enemies. That's all. MX crimes is nothing compared to the widespread crimes of HG and USC. Who DESTROYED and starved a whole population in the south. Don't act holier than thou with me

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Gedo is diverse. East of Juba River, DM are the majority. Most villages under Luuq and Baardheere are DM majority. Ceelwaaq is Garre majority. Garre are part of DM. Cawlyahan, Dir, Ajuuraan and others also inhabit Gedo.
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Garre got pushed out in 05 and they hold nothing in Ceelwaaq but in name only. All the troops in Ceelwaaq from Jubbaland are my jiffo and those from the Reer Guuri. Luuq and Baardhere is majority MX now with Rahanweyn doing our farm labor we pay them. Gedo is long gone. Representation, yes I am not against that. But the degaan is MX majority. The six star bullshit will never come true.
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The current situation of clan militia domination will not last forever. Somalia one day will move to a system where all citizens will have equal political rights, no matter how long that takes. On that day, only population numbers will matter. The indigenous people of Gedo and Jubba will speak for their rights. DM, MX, OG, Gaaljecel, Dir, and everybody will get representation based on population numbers, not based on the number of militia.

AwBakayle wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:23 pm

ReturnOfMariixmaan wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:59 am

AwBakayle wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 11:40 am Gedo is diverse. East of Juba River, DM are the majority. Most villages under Luuq and Baardheere are DM majority. Ceelwaaq is Garre majority. Garre are part of DM. Cawlyahan, Dir, Ajuuraan and others also inhabit Gedo.

Garre got pushed out in 05 and they hold nothing in Ceelwaaq but in name only. All the troops in Ceelwaaq from Jubbaland are my jiffo and those from the Reer Guuri. Luuq and Baardhere is majority MX now with Rahanweyn doing our farm labor we pay them. Gedo is long gone. Representation, yes I am not against that. But the degaan is MX majority. The six star bullshit will never come true.

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The current situation of clan militia domination will not last forever. Somalia one day will move to a system where all citizens will have equal political rights, no matter how long that takes. On that day, only population numbers will matter. The indigenous people of Gedo and Jubba will speak for their rights. DM, MX, OG, Gaaljecel, Dir, and everybody will get representation based on population numbers, not based on the number of militia.

OG don't belong in Gedo. DM are well represented in Gedo. The numbers will come up for MX as they are the majority.

Turbulence wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:10 pm Rahanweyn people are too generous. At the same time they know they control the majority of the seats so they don't care. I am really convinced Rahanweyn are the most politically mature group in Somalia.

They are. From what I hear from people who go to Somalia they will be the real power houses of the south. They flooded Mogadishu are in Jubbaland, koonfur galbeed and even the north

AbdiWahab252 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 9:48 am Nomand

Tuurdhow is one major settlement exclusively populated by Sacad alone for the last 100+ years. Yet seats were allocated to Harti who are also new comers.

Yet in Galmudug which is majority Hawiye we over allocated MX, Dir seats. It shows we are not that petty when it comes to power sharing

never heard of tuurdhow and can't find it anywhere not in afmadow district or bualle district, as for representations i am against oppression of any Somali.

every single somali should get his or hers right.

https://reliefweb.int/map/somalia/somal ... 2-feb-2012

https://reliefweb.int/sites/reliefweb.i ... ale_A3.pdf

as for galmudug MX have the biggest city caabudwaaq, and balanbale is probably the 4th biggest after cadaado and dhuusamareeb. and marehan settle in lots of villages, marehan even made tanasul there to get the ball rolling in galmudug, expect MX to get more seats in 2024.

My spelling was incorrect it’s south of Jamame. Turdho Somalia

So Nomand

Who should pay for all these MP seats? Shouldn’t the costs of the mamuul be proportionately split? Each juufo brings their revenue to the mamuul.

In this model, you will have small, lean mamuul because most will not want to fund the expenses of a bloated administration

Turbulence wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 12:10 pm Rahanweyn people are too generous. At the same time they know they control the majority of the seats so they don't care. I am really convinced Rahanweyn are the most politically mature group in Somalia.

Somalia would be a great country if exclusively ruled by these people. I personally feel much safe an at ease while I'm among them.

AbdiWahab252 wrote: Thu Mar 19, 2020 3:31 pm My spelling was incorrect it’s south of Jamame. Turdho Somalia

So Nomand

Who should pay for all these MP seats? Shouldn’t the costs of the mamuul be proportionately split? Each juufo brings their revenue to the mamuul.

In this model, you will have small, lean mamuul because most will not want to fund the expenses of a bloated administration

if i had a say i would eliminate MP's for maamul gobaleeds. replace it with mayors and district commissioners who actually care about their constituency.

also Somalia should have 1 president the leaders of these maamul gobaleeds should be called federal governor.

as for the payments for MPS, most don't see anything they will be lucky even if they see 100 dollars a month.

An Italian saying goes " chi ha potere fa la legge" meaning he who has the authority makes the law. I heard stories, back in the sixties, lot of MJ MPs running in Bay and Bakool, so it is nothing new.

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