Will Rooble change his position on his candidacy after receiving $$$ Millions from Saudi Arabia and the UAE?

[XimanJaale]

So simply Sahal is willing to flip flop as long as Farmaajo is beaten. This means he has no integrity and no ideology. Reminds me of 1991 when the mooryaans decided to overthrow the government but didn't had any good alternatives. Cause the reality is that, nobody has a solid alternative. Hence the hate against Farmaajo is jealousy. They can't be man enough, patriotic enough and visionary enough to be like Farmaajo. These last couple of months were a prime example. A man running away from his shoes and former presidents complaining like bitches.

It's f-king 2021, at least bring a strong candidate like Farmaajo that can persuade all clans. Or kindly fuck off... We either split the country into small pieces or you bring someone that can unite the country and can bring peace and development. This mooryanism is getting boring now.

I mean look at this title of the thread and what he is suggesting. Do u think this is something to be proud of? Xoolo foqol Xoolo

[sahal80]

Even if it came down to Deni Vs Farmaajo the lesser evil is Deni. All political opponents agree that the number 1 threat is Farmaajo whether he’s on top or bottom. If it also comes down to let Say rooble vs Farmaajo or Hassan Sheikh vs Farmaajo we would choose anything other than Farmaajo.

even CBB are spreading this cheap propaganda of "Farmaajo vs Deni" wich shows how qabiilist they are. the battle is about political camps; Pro Turkey vs UAE, Ethiopia vs Egypt vs Kenya vs Djibouti and i can assure you a new face who has relations with all these countries will win


Mooges first seat in Galmudug upper house will be the Caabudwaaq one even this Kursi was not 100% ka waran before finally QoorQoor let it go for him instead of Ciid. why i call them mooges? they claiming they ceyr guy Abdihakim who was speaking in the name of himilo(Sh Sharif) inside the parliament back in Kheyre days. the claiming my dumaashi ZamZam waceysle i have a video of her saying i was in Galmudug months anigoo asaayda ii xirantahay(her husband from hiiraan ex xooghayaha guud banaadir Amiin Elmi was killed in al shabaab attack in Xamar in 2019. QoorQoor rewarded her to keep her seat for her role in keeping waceysle. she was campaigning for hassan Sheikh in 2016 posting "qabyo qofkeedaa dhameestirima" this was her slogan in Galmudug now

so as long mooge cant boob he has zero chance somalis never reelect president on their will. Ahmed Madoobe is about to pick his mps if Rooble lets him to pick most of ergada as expected in the next shir; Kismaayo vs ergada.

there is no big difference between hawadle and Abgaals even if we are against eachother. we talk to important guys in SEIT and Aqalka sare committes and they tell us they put beesha first. head of Hirshabelle SEIT is Hawadle, gudoomiyaha gudiga Hirshabelle aqalka sare is Hawadle and he is now in Baladweyne even under Guudlaawe our guys have big chance to get through and he even tells them if let me come to Baladweyne do your business as you like and they r telling odayasha let us pick our mps and then be against Guudlaawe after the elections. Aqalka sare is waiting until he can visits baladweyne he uses it to pressure on Reer Hiiraan but locally we will be free.

but they under Madoobe locally will not be free his guys who will pick ergada will tell them to pick the likes of macalimow and janan

Mooge and MM are in the same boat what danger comes from this man? Mooges never cease to amaze me.


https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=403937

You finally accepted that abdikariim has no chance so you are hoping that Rooble will run. Got it.

Mashallah i didn know you guys will take my words as a holy book needs interpretation while im still alive!!

sorry this text doesnt need interpretation this has nothing to do with Guuleed and Mooge who r not supported by the UAE this is about Deni! this is hypothetical question on how restoring back relations with Kenya and UAE and Egypt will impact negatively on Deni chances it will impact even on SL who had big chances under Mooge when it comes to Kenya, UAE and Egypt.
" if he did it, it would turn the table on Deni i will explain why.

Rooble is heading To al Sacuudiya after the Emirates. these visites will have big impact on Somali politics. for example why the UAE have to spend money on Deni if Rooble replaced Mooge? If Qatar stooges were removed? the change in FGS will end the "the only camp(Deni) who can be supported against mooge."

[Kees70]

Ustaad Sahal ignore these deluded Marexaan who still believe in their besieged mooge Farmaajo.

Anyone with half a brain knows Farmaajo is going to be kicked on the curb or risk civil war where this time he will be dragged on the streets, Farmaajo is the most hated man with zero support from anyone among Hawiyes, and it's the same Hawiye that hates him who Farmaajo lives by with their grace in mogadishu

If I was Farmaajo I would start preparing my departure from Somalia ASAP.

[Kees70]

Even if it came down to Deni Vs Farmaajo the lesser evil is Deni. All political opponents agree that the number 1 threat is Farmaajo whether he’s on top or bottom. If it also comes down to let Say rooble vs Farmaajo or Hassan Sheikh vs Farmaajo we would choose anything other than Farmaajo.

even CBB are spreading this cheap propaganda of "Farmaajo vs Deni" wich shows how qabiilist they are. the battle is about political camps; Pro Turkey vs UAE, Ethiopia vs Egypt vs Kenya vs Djibouti and i can assure you a new face who has relations with all these countries will win


Mooges first seat in Galmudug upper house will be the Caabudwaaq one even this Kursi was not 100% ka waran before finally QoorQoor let it go for him instead of Ciid. why i call them mooges? they claiming they ceyr guy Abdihakim who was speaking in the name of himilo(Sh Sharif) inside the parliament back in Kheyre days. the claiming my dumaashi ZamZam waceysle i have a video of her saying i was in Galmudug months anigoo asaayda ii xirantahay(her husband from hiiraan ex xooghayaha guud banaadir Amiin Elmi was killed in al shabaab attack in Xamar in 2019. QoorQoor rewarded her to keep her seat for her role in keeping waceysle. she was campaigning for hassan Sheikh in 2016 posting "qabyo qofkeedaa dhameestirima" this was her slogan in Galmudug now

so as long mooge cant boob he has zero chance somalis never reelect president on their will. Ahmed Madoobe is about to pick his mps if Rooble lets him to pick most of ergada as expected in the next shir; Kismaayo vs ergada.

there is no big difference between hawadle and Abgaals even if we are against eachother. we talk to important guys in SEIT and Aqalka sare committes and they tell us they put beesha first. head of Hirshabelle SEIT is Hawadle, gudoomiyaha gudiga Hirshabelle aqalka sare is Hawadle and he is now in Baladweyne even under Guudlaawe our guys have big chance to get through and he even tells them if let me come to Baladweyne do your business as you like and they r telling odayasha let us pick our mps and then be against Guudlaawe after the elections. Aqalka sare is waiting until he can visits baladweyne he uses it to pressure on Reer Hiiraan but locally we will be free.

but they under Madoobe locally will not be free his guys who will pick ergada will tell them to pick the likes of macalimow and janan

Mooge and MM are in the same boat what danger comes from this man? Mooges never cease to amaze me.


https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=403937

You finally accepted that abdikariim has no chance so you are hoping that Rooble will run. Got it.

Mashallah i didn know you guys will take my words as a holy book needs interpretation while im still alive!!

sorry this text doesnt need interpretation this has nothing to do with Guuleed and Mooge who r not supported by the UAE this is about Deni! this is hypothetical question on how restoring back relations with Kenya and UAE and Egypt will impact negatively on Deni chances it will impact even on SL who had big chances under Mooge when it comes to Kenya, UAE and Egypt.
" if he did it, it would turn the table on Deni i will explain why.

Rooble is heading To al Sacuudiya after the Emirates. these visites will have big impact on Somali politics. for example why the UAE have to spend money on Deni if Rooble replaced Mooge? If Qatar stooges were removed? the change in FGS will end the "the only camp(Deni) who can be supported against mooge."

Ustaad Sahal your words are full of logic, why would UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kenya, Egypt and Djibouti support another Darood Deni against another Darood Farmaajo when there is a Hawiye Opposition of Farmaajo in the government called PM Rooble who can balance the 4.5 Qabiil system that only Hawiye can replace a sitting Darood President.

Bringing in another Darood (Deni) to replace another Darood (Farmaajo) is illogical and waste of financial funding when they can easily support incumbent opposition PM Hawiye Rooble to replace the hated Darood Farmaajo which is very logical and can easily succeed since Rooble already has his clans army full backing in Mogadishu while Deni or Farmaajo don't have.

[sahal80]

Even if it came down to Deni Vs Farmaajo the lesser evil is Deni. All political opponents agree that the number 1 threat is Farmaajo whether he’s on top or bottom. If it also comes down to let Say rooble vs Farmaajo or Hassan Sheikh vs Farmaajo we would choose anything other than Farmaajo.

even CBB are spreading this cheap propaganda of "Farmaajo vs Deni" wich shows how qabiilist they are. the battle is about political camps; Pro Turkey vs UAE, Ethiopia vs Egypt vs Kenya vs Djibouti and i can assure you a new face who has relations with all these countries will win


Mooges first seat in Galmudug upper house will be the Caabudwaaq one even this Kursi was not 100% ka waran before finally QoorQoor let it go for him instead of Ciid. why i call them mooges? they claiming they ceyr guy Abdihakim who was speaking in the name of himilo(Sh Sharif) inside the parliament back in Kheyre days. the claiming my dumaashi ZamZam waceysle i have a video of her saying i was in Galmudug months anigoo asaayda ii xirantahay(her husband from hiiraan ex xooghayaha guud banaadir Amiin Elmi was killed in al shabaab attack in Xamar in 2019. QoorQoor rewarded her to keep her seat for her role in keeping waceysle. she was campaigning for hassan Sheikh in 2016 posting "qabyo qofkeedaa dhameestirima" this was her slogan in Galmudug now

so as long mooge cant boob he has zero chance somalis never reelect president on their will. Ahmed Madoobe is about to pick his mps if Rooble lets him to pick most of ergada as expected in the next shir; Kismaayo vs ergada.

there is no big difference between hawadle and Abgaals even if we are against eachother. we talk to important guys in SEIT and Aqalka sare committes and they tell us they put beesha first. head of Hirshabelle SEIT is Hawadle, gudoomiyaha gudiga Hirshabelle aqalka sare is Hawadle and he is now in Baladweyne even under Guudlaawe our guys have big chance to get through and he even tells them if let me come to Baladweyne do your business as you like and they r telling odayasha let us pick our mps and then be against Guudlaawe after the elections. Aqalka sare is waiting until he can visits baladweyne he uses it to pressure on Reer Hiiraan but locally we will be free.

but they under Madoobe locally will not be free his guys who will pick ergada will tell them to pick the likes of macalimow and janan

Mooge and MM are in the same boat what danger comes from this man? Mooges never cease to amaze me.


https://www.somalinet.com/forums/viewto ... 0&t=403937

You finally accepted that abdikariim has no chance so you are hoping that Rooble will run. Got it.

Mashallah i didn know you guys will take my words as a holy book needs interpretation while im still alive!!

sorry this text doesnt need interpretation this has nothing to do with Guuleed and Mooge who r not supported by the UAE this is about Deni! this is hypothetical question on how restoring back relations with Kenya and UAE and Egypt will impact negatively on Deni chances it will impact even on SL who had big chances under Mooge when it comes to Kenya, UAE and Egypt.
" if he did it, it would turn the table on Deni i will explain why.

Rooble is heading To al Sacuudiya after the Emirates. these visites will have big impact on Somali politics. for example why the UAE have to spend money on Deni if Rooble replaced Mooge? If Qatar stooges were removed? the change in FGS will end the "the only camp(Deni) who can be supported against mooge."

Ustaad Sahal your words are full of logic, why would UAE, Saudi Arabia, Kenya, Egypt and Djibouti support another Darood Deni against another Darood Farmaajo when there is a Hawiye Opposition of Farmaajo in the government called PM Rooble who can balance the 4.5 Qabiil system that only Hawiye can replace a sitting Darood President.

Bringing in another Darood (Deni) to replace another Darood (Farmaajo) is illogical and waste of financial funding when they can easily support incumbent opposition PM Hawiye Rooble to replace the hated Darood Farmaajo which is very logical and can easily succeed since Rooble already has his clans army full backing in Mogadishu while Deni or Farmaajo don't have.

barbarossa igu soo kiciyay wixii dudumaha galay oo dhan feels like michael jacksons thriller.

I even suggested this hypothetically what would happen if Rooble announced his candidacy ?

Rooble said his caretaker govt will hand over the foreign relations file that he put it back on track to the next government which is a sign that he will not support the return of Mooge and also that he is preparing the atmosphere for a candidate who has ideas close to his idea to takeover and his meeting with CCC in Nairobi and that he wants to leave a good legacy that he will use it in 2025 but it is reasonable for him to run now. There are many pressures on him from external parties including Djibouti and Kenya which he recently told her that he does not support Mooge anymore. Rooble is a man of principles and politics has no principles he said so as not to betray the trust of all parties but when he sees the boob from regional presidents i think will say to himself warniyahow adiguba caqlaaleedahee boob maxaa dhaama!

[SultanOrder]

Sahal, I am not sure you understand the definition of "narrow".

This is Twisted Logic basically conceding the election. You guys seem dependent on this whole Gulf money obsession, but apparently for different reasons. Twisted says Farmajo hoarded it and you---well no one knows what you are saying really. It seems to be some passive aggressive wish that Rooble displace Deni for UAE money (exactly as you said; UAE money sponsorship has no impact on Farmajo since he was never getting it ). But here is Twisted even ruling out the relevance of UAE money having conceded the election;



Here is former BBC journalist Rageh Oómaar, a staunchly anti-Farmajo Somaliland lobbyist, co-signing to the concession of Twisted, but correcting him about any illusions where the International Community is concerned. A Foreign Affairs Journalist, Rageh basically tells Twisted not only is Farmajo going to win a 2nd term, and not only does he have IC backing, but the opposition know this as well. I mean that is astounding coming from Rageh Oomaar.



In conclusion, you have presented no evidence to substantiate how any of what Rooble is doing in his role as PM has anything to do with Farmajo's Presidential reelection, and furthermore your general views about Farmaajo's reelection are not even representative of where the mainstream Opposition perspective is according to Twisted Logic and Rageh Oomaar.

All you have done is present your hope (wish?) that Rooble displace Deni for UAE money which, as you note doesn't even affect Farmajo's reelection, so logically the take away from this topic is you are expressing just how much it bothers you this rumor about the election coming down between two "Darod" men.

Otherwise, why would you come up with this strange hypothetical now after the rumors rise and why specifically base the whole topic on Deni being displaced for UAE money by the sitting Prime Minister who is not even running for presidency?

And don't *Farmaajo this"; Farmajo is the frontrunner and according to the mainstream opposition has already basically won. You are just using him as a crutch to hide the fact this hope (wish?) centered around Deni being pushed aside for UAE money is some spooked "2 Darod" fears.

One thing is for sure though; the honeymoon between the MM and Deni is over and so is all the confidence in the MM side.

[SultanOrder]

Ustaad Sahal ignore these deluded Marexaan who still believe in their besieged mooge Farmaajo.

Anyone with half a brain knows Farmaajo is going to be kicked on the curb or risk civil war where this time he will be dragged on the streets, Farmaajo is the most hated man with zero support from anyone among Hawiyes, and it's the same Hawiye that hates him who Farmaajo lives by with their grace in mogadishu

If I was Farmaajo I would start preparing my departure from Somalia ASAP.

They should cal you "Swift Boat" if you get the reference.

[sahal80]

Sahal, I am not sure you understand the definition of "narrow".

This is Twisted Logic basically conceding the election. You guys seem dependent on this whole Gulf money obsession, but apparently for different reasons. Twisted says Farmajo hoarded it and you---well no one knows what you are saying really. It seems to be some passive aggressive wish that Rooble displace Deni for UAE money (exactly as you said; UAE money sponsorship has no impact on Farmajo since he was never getting it ). But here is Twisted even ruling out the relevance of UAE money having conceded the election;



Here is former BBC journalist Rageh Oómaar, a staunchly anti-Farmajo Somaliland lobbyist, co-signing to the concession of Twisted, but correcting him about any illusions where the International Community is concerned. A Foreign Affairs Journalist, Rageh basically tells Twisted not only is Farmajo going to win a 2nd term, and not only does he have IC backing, but the opposition know this as well. I mean that is astounding coming from Rageh Oomaar.



In conclusion, you have presented no evidence to substantiate how any of what Rooble is doing in his role as PM has anything to do with Farmajo's Presidential reelection, and furthermore your general views about Farmaajo's reelection are not even representative of where the mainstream Opposition perspective is according to Twisted Logic and Rageh Oomaar.

All you have done is present your hope (wish?) that Rooble displace Deni for UAE money which, as you note doesn't even affect Farmajo's reelection, so logically the take away from this topic is you are expressing just how much it bothers you this rumor about the election coming down between two "Darod" men.

Otherwise, why would you come up with this strange hypothetical now after the rumors rise and why specifically base the whole topic on Deni being displaced for UAE money by the sitting Prime Minister who is not even running for presidency?

And don't *Farmaajo this"; Farmajo is the frontrunner and according to the mainstream opposition has already basically won. You are just using him as a crutch to hide the fact this hope (wish?) centered around Deni being pushed aside for UAE money is some spooked "2 Darod" fears.

One thing is for sure though; the honeymoon between the MM and Deni is over and so is all the confidence in the MM side.

a link that dates back to July? even SAHAN said Mooge will rig the elections bc of FEIT wich is now fully backed by MM while Mooge is silent.

sxb ma hadli karo wax badan baa is badalay siyaasada gudaha iyo dibada waana aragtey waraaqaha farmaajo iyo rooble isugu jawaabeen usbuuca soo socda qaatkii kenyaa soo gali aduunba war kama heesaan yaa Mooges!

Twistic-logic is coming from the perspective of Abgaal and i already said their chances will be slim in this FMS boob but they r still seen as qabiilka caasimada last elections first round they got 173 votes when mjs got 60 votes. Deni and Abgaals without FMS will likely get the same number dont forget mushkilada maaha PL iyo Waqooyi waa koonfurta yaa dooranaya PL iyo Wqooyi ? Deni is good for us he will damage mooges chances in Dblock and if he loses will not vote for him. i respect deni im not against him laakin his barnaamaj سيفرون من قدر جبرتى الى قد جبرتى will not work he thinks he has big chance under mooge as HAG will vote for him running away from another Jabarti




PL



There came to pass my theory on Deni. they gonna tell the FMS to back one candidate who will be? UAE did in 2016 only Ali Osoble and Guuleed refused backing new president .

hadeey tan dhacdo soo moogaha aad nagu waasheen meel cidla ah loogama tagin?

[Kees70]

Ustaad Sahal ignore these deluded Marexaan who still believe in their besieged mooge Farmaajo.

Anyone with half a brain knows Farmaajo is going to be kicked on the curb or risk civil war where this time he will be dragged on the streets, Farmaajo is the most hated man with zero support from anyone among Hawiyes, and it's the same Hawiye that hates him who Farmaajo lives by with their grace in mogadishu

If I was Farmaajo I would start preparing my departure from Somalia ASAP.

They should cal you "Swift Boat" if you get the reference.

Sxb there are no permanent allies except permanent Interests, we still respectr our Mxs friends, but Beesha's (HG) interests comes 1st before anything else.

Its part of the game that everyone takes care of its own interests.

"Survival of the fittest Is The Name Of The Game"

[SultanOrder]

Ustaad Sahal ignore these deluded Marexaan who still believe in their besieged mooge Farmaajo.

Anyone with half a brain knows Farmaajo is going to be kicked on the curb or risk civil war where this time he will be dragged on the streets, Farmaajo is the most hated man with zero support from anyone among Hawiyes, and it's the same Hawiye that hates him who Farmaajo lives by with their grace in mogadishu

If I was Farmaajo I would start preparing my departure from Somalia ASAP.

They should cal you "Swift Boat" if you get the reference.

Sxb there are no permanent allies except permanent Interests, we still respectr our Mxs friends, but Beesha's (HG) interests comes 1st before anything else.

Its part of the game that everyone takes care of its own interests.

"Survival of the fittest Is The Name Of The Game"

Like I said, Swift Boat.

I will stop calling you that when I see your views are original and do not consistently represent whoever the last person you spoke with is.

[Kees70]

They should cal you "Swift Boat" if you get the reference.

Sxb there are no permanent allies except permanent Interests, we still respectr our Mxs friends, but Beesha's (HG) interests comes 1st before anything else.

Its part of the game that everyone takes care of its own interests.

"Survival of the fittest Is The Name Of The Game"

Like I said, Swift Boat.

I will stop calling you that when I see your views are original and consistently represent whoever the last person you spoke with is.

judging from your posts history and that of everyone else here are we not all inconsistence?

In essence sxb, we Somalis could all be called ''swift boat'', we sail toward where the wind blows in terms of our clans interest, as there is no fixed alignment.

This quote sums up Somalis Poltics kkkkk;

“There are two things that are important in politics. The first is money and I can't remember what the second one is.”

[SultanOrder]

Sahal,

Yes, and there are talking frogs somewhere on earth as well. You can believe what you want, but virtually nothing "new" has happened or really will happen.

This is a fairly linear process; it always has been.

Planning --> Agree on the "rules" ---> September Agreement
Preparation -->Pick Senators & MPs --->Using Sept A.
Implementation -->Pick President --> Using Parliamentary Electors

The only time to have made any feasible changes was during "planning". We are in Implementation now.

The reason you even made this topic is because of this reason. Deni got all his changes in planning, but you just realized afterwards only he did on the opposition side---not you guys.

[XimanJaale]

They needed the help of Daaroods to get rid off another Daarood. And now the Daaroods they were hoping to use has fob them off.

Caqli hawiye

It's hard to find a patriotic and clean and hard working Hawiye. And it's also hard to find a mooryaan Hawiye that can play the dirty game. They are not good for anything whether it's being good or evil.

[sahal80]

My theory about Rooble's candidacy is gaining momentum · i can tell you UPD(Hassan Sheikhs) party will support him if he does. they parted ways over Rooble not donating for Hassan Sheekh campaing in 2012.

[BigBreak]

^confederation means de facto separatism you langaab