Zero sum game mentality is the biggest obstacle to the presidential elections

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Geylan wuxuu leeyahay doorasha Gedo iyo Baladweyne ayaa ugu danbeysa oo laga yaabo in gudoonka kumeelkaarka ah la doorto ayagoo ka maqan.

waxaa garowe ku kulmay Deni iyo Madoobe oo rabay inuu Rooble u yimaado laakin Rooble waaka cudurtaartey sababtoo ah wuxuu rabaa inuu asaga Doorashada dhaqaajiyo ka hor kulan noocaas ah saasna uga bilaabo galmudug intuu joogo ilaa dhamaadka usbuucan halka la dhihi lahaa Deni baa dhaqaajiyay tii "waqooyigana" wuu bilaabay

waxaa soo baxaya warar in Rooble baladweyne tageen oo ah goaan wanaagsan markii laga fiiriyo laba dhinac: waa marka horee waxaa cadaadis saarayay guudlaawe inuu raaco taas oo reer hiiraan ka careyn karta waa marka labaade hadii uu kaligiis tago waxaa ka caroon guudlaawe iyo wixii la halmaama!

laakin doorashada baladweyne waa ka dhaceysaa ama hasoo daahdo ama ha soo hor marto waayoo waxaa ka shaqeynaya gudiga SEIT ee uu madax ka yahay Diini Ali Jimcaale oo ka soo jeeda beesha dhexe. SEIT ayaa u soo gudbinaysa FEIT listiga murashixiinta laakin Gedo maamulka JL dhan lagama aqoonsana halka hiiraan bas la diidan yahay kuwa jowhar waana siyaasada beesha oo ah ineey dhexdeeda isku dhicin.



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Sahal samir iyo Iimaan to Hawaadle, they are politically buried for a long time. How did you agree to a gentleman's agreement when Somali don't even honor written agreements :lol:

Gedo and Hiiraan will have the same fate. Gedo agreed to a gentleman's agreement and Madoobe hasn't rotated any power after a decade. Atleast Gedo can fight back if they muster resources, you put Abgaal political power on the SFG side and look like the spoiler now. Viva Guudlaawe :clap:
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OwQariib wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:42 pm Sahal samir iyo Iimaan to Hawaadle, they are politically buried for a long time. How did you agree to a gentleman's agreement when Somali don't even honor written agreements :lol:

Gedo and Hiiraan will have the same fate. Gedo agreed to a gentleman's agreement and Madoobe hasn't rotated any power after a decade. Atleast Gedo can fight back if they muster resources, you put Abgaal political power on the SFG side and look like the spoiler now. Viva Guudlaawe :clap:
Get a grip dude, Xawaadle can easily declare a rival Hiirshsbelle regime headquartered in Beledweyne aka the place which they can declare the capital city of HS state
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BigBreak wrote: Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:22 am
OwQariib wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:42 pm Sahal samir iyo Iimaan to Hawaadle, they are politically buried for a long time. How did you agree to a gentleman's agreement when Somali don't even honor written agreements :lol:

Gedo and Hiiraan will have the same fate. Gedo agreed to a gentleman's agreement and Madoobe hasn't rotated any power after a decade. Atleast Gedo can fight back if they muster resources, you put Abgaal political power on the SFG side and look like the spoiler now. Viva Guudlaawe :clap:
Get a grip dude, Xawaadle can easily declare a rival Hiirshsbelle regime headquartered in Beledweyne aka the place which they can declare the capital city of HS state
Kkkkk that's fine, i hope they get far with that i am a Karanle man i cherish all Hawiye prosperity, kaftanka Sahal ha u bixin :mrgreen:
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OwQariib wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:42 pm Sahal samir iyo Iimaan to Hawaadle, they are politically buried for a long time. How did you agree to a gentleman's agreement when Somali don't even honor written agreements :lol:

Gedo and Hiiraan will have the same fate. Gedo agreed to a gentleman's agreement and Madoobe hasn't rotated any power after a decade. Atleast Gedo can fight back if they muster resources, you put Abgaal political power on the SFG side and look like the spoiler now. Viva Guudlaawe :clap:
There was no gentlemen agreement in Gedo. Unless you believe Gedo only belongs to minorities when it’s the most diverse region. Stop comparing Hirshabelle to Jubaland where only 2 clans fighting over 1 kursi. Jubaland is Absame created never was created by Hsm nor forced 2 clans to agree on power sharing. Absame are majority from Raas Kamboni to Serinley. North Gedo was perfectly fine under Jubaland until boon Farmaajo came into power and his minority people refused to compel with the state. If Farmaajo refuses to let go of Garbahareey village to be administered by its state then there’s no other option but to remove elections from Gedo region until the cheese stops with the tribalism.
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Farmaajo spent millions,used Ethiopian troops stationed in Gedo and imported thousands of SNA troops just to force Marehans in Gedo to defect while Hawadles in Beledweyne didn’t receive anything from the FGS to refuse Hirshabelle.
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sahal80 wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:22 pm waxaa garowe ku kulmay Deni iyo Madoobe oo rabay inuu Rooble u yimaado laakin Rooble waaka cudurtaartey sababtoo ah wuxuu rabaa inuu asaga Doorashada dhaqaajiyo ka hor kulan noocaas ah saasna uga bilaabo galmudug intuu joogo ilaa dhamaadka usbuucan halka la dhihi lahaa Deni baa dhaqaajiyay tii "waqooyigana" wuu bilaabay
warkaan maalmaahaan qoraayey ay hada soo galiyeen CCBda Deni. waxay kaloo kahadlayaan "Gugii hawiye aka hawiye spring" adeeroow Meeshaan farmaajo ma joogee yaa markaan idin maqlaaya
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Rebelxx222 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 10:05 am Farmaajo spent millions,used Ethiopian troops stationed in Gedo and imported thousands of SNA troops just to force Marehans in Gedo to defect while Hawadles in Beledweyne didn’t receive anything from the FGS to refuse Hirshabelle.
Are you makahil? What jiffo?
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Rebelxx222 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:55 am There was no gentlemen agreement in Gedo. Unless you believe Gedo only belongs to minorities when it’s the most diverse region. Stop comparing Hirshabelle to Jubaland where only 2 clans fighting over 1 kursi. Jubaland is Absame created never was created by Hsm nor forced 2 clans to agree on power sharing. Absame are majority from Raas Kamboni to Serinley. North Gedo was perfectly fine under Jubaland until boon Farmaajo came into power and his minority people refused to compel with the state. If Farmaajo refuses to let go of Garbahareey village to be administered by its state then there’s no other option but to remove elections from Gedo region until the cheese stops with the tribalism.

Akhi dulmiga joojiya this zero sum mentality in the thread title is exactly what you are endorsing. If Marehan is a minority why did Ahmed Madoobe give them equal number of seats as Ogaden in JL. Truth be told Gedo is less diverse than Lower Jubba, MX for good or worse have succeeded in colonising the region and they represent many districts there. There was an agreement in 2013 to hold future elections when JL was still an interim admin, with the way seats are divided it's very possible for a Marehan to win the votes but ngl Farmaajo dun goofed with his overly interfering niggas like Kulane Jiis. May the best man rule.
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sahal80 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 1:49 pm
sahal80 wrote: Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:22 pm waxaa garowe ku kulmay Deni iyo Madoobe oo rabay inuu Rooble u yimaado laakin Rooble waaka cudurtaartey sababtoo ah wuxuu rabaa inuu asaga Doorashada dhaqaajiyo ka hor kulan noocaas ah saasna uga bilaabo galmudug intuu joogo ilaa dhamaadka usbuucan halka la dhihi lahaa Deni baa dhaqaajiyay tii "waqooyigana" wuu bilaabay
warkaan maalmaahaan qoraayey ay hada soo galiyeen CCBda Deni. waxay kaloo kahadlayaan "Gugii hawiye aka hawiye spring" adeeroow Meeshaan farmaajo ma joogee yaa markaan idin maqlaaya
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Kkk Idil news aka Jibril heres makes me laugh sometimes. Adeer Madoobe Waa inuu Meesha iska soo tagaa. Our luck is with a Hawiye horse in this presidential race. Al Daroodia Farmaajo oo kale mar hore codadkeena naga qaasaariye. Down Darood down :down:
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OwQariib wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:49 pm
Rebelxx222 wrote: Wed Nov 17, 2021 9:55 am There was no gentlemen agreement in Gedo. Unless you believe Gedo only belongs to minorities when it’s the most diverse region. Stop comparing Hirshabelle to Jubaland where only 2 clans fighting over 1 kursi. Jubaland is Absame created never was created by Hsm nor forced 2 clans to agree on power sharing. Absame are majority from Raas Kamboni to Serinley. North Gedo was perfectly fine under Jubaland until boon Farmaajo came into power and his minority people refused to compel with the state. If Farmaajo refuses to let go of Garbahareey village to be administered by its state then there’s no other option but to remove elections from Gedo region until the cheese stops with the tribalism.

Akhi dulmiga joojiya this zero sum mentality in the thread title is exactly what you are endorsing. If Marehan is a minority why did Ahmed Madoobe give them equal number of seats as Ogaden in JL. Truth be told Gedo is less diverse than Lower Jubba, MX for good or worse have succeeded in colonising the region and they represent many districts there. There was an agreement in 2013 to hold future elections when JL was still an interim admin, with the way seats are divided it's very possible for a Marehan to win the votes but ngl Farmaajo dun goofed with his overly interfering niggas like Kulane Jiis. May the best man rule.
I agree there are some obstacles like Kulane Jiis iyo Farmaajo holding back the region. Otherwise Many marehan representatives like the Vice President and the clan elders are at peace with Ogadens Absame. It is only N&N and Farmaajo junta waging war against Jubaland state and the Ogaden clan.
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