North of kismayo and west has always been Ogaden. For example many areas now are starting to be settled by Ogaden like the areas of Yoontooy,Goobweyn,Baar Maxamud,and Gosha areas which has been historical boundaries between Ogaden & the Shambara clan. Aulihan Ogadens on the other hand live from Buurdhuubo and south of Ceelwaaq all the way to the west of Jilib district that’s where their boundaries end. Maxamed zubeer live below the river of Jilib district and at some point the town was contested between SPM & USC during the civil war. In Dadaab there is no such thing as Gaal Jecl or Cawrmale ID. The only clan allowed ID is Ogaden and throughout Kenya it must include the big clans who are considered native! The Harti Cawrmale conflict was in a place called Dalsan west of kismayo settled by Harti,Cawrmale and Ogadens who acted as peace keepers.sahal80 wrote: Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:34 amRebelxx222 wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:24 pmGaaljecl minorities came to the region as Ogaden serfs caring for our cattle’s as we expanded and fought the Gaalo Madow. It is shameful for you to say they are in Raas Kamboni as the deegaan is well know Tolomoge Abdalla deegan. Jilib itself belongs to Maxamed zubeer Ogaden and everything south of Baraawe.sahal80 wrote: Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:13 am my relatives after Hiiraan most are from this area starting from Yaaqbariweyn to qoryooley
Same reer Hiiraan are present in the first green line which extends from Walaweyn to Qoryooley and then goes between Saakow and Jilib. This is where Abdi Yousuf and adeerada hawadle reside. Gaaljecel are found in abundance from Walaweyn to Buurxakaba to the border of Diisooor after which they spread to lower Juba between Jilib and Kismayo and beyond up to raskambooni. The second green line from Balidoogle to Qaryooley are the Garre who are associated with Samaale. in Qoryooley you have Garre, jiido and Hawadle. Jiido itself is claimed by dir who call them madaxweyne Dir but they are allied with D&M against Garre who are allied with Samaale. The third line from Afgooye to Sablaale and Baraawe are HG who have conflict with Biimaal between the river and the sea As you can see this is a Samaale region so i suggest HG should populate all the way till Jilib and after Jilib till Kismaayo you will have Gaaljecel and Cawramale buffer zone and as for South west HAG will get the vice president after laftagareen goes with Abti. under sakiin HAG couldnt agree from wich subclan.
https://ibb.co/d5zNr0Plet us not hijack the thread sxb wich is about baraawe and lower shabelle. i was not talking about JL but was saying HG should populate between Baraawe and Jilib so i talked about the demographic distribution of the area between Jilib, Jamaame and Kismaayo and I said north of Kismaayo(between Jilib and Kismaayo) and how these clans can be friendly towards HG. I can name 30 villages under Kismaayo and Jamaame where the majority constitutes Caramale and Gaaljecel and dir. there is even one village wich is just Hawadle and dir and its called Hoombooy near jilib we also settle in saakow and now we have been meeting with Madoobe over the mp we got wasiiru dawlo . this area im talking about between jilib and jamaame and Kismaayo has been hartizized but when USC reached there they joined it lol
The area in which Cowlyahan are located is different from this area which is between Jilib and saakow and Buaale. As for the lower Jubba deegaans the hinterland is OG who are the biggest in the province and are extension of NFD but there are Cawrmale and Gaaljecel also in the southern villages of Kismayo as well as in its north and since Hartis arrival from PL by sea to Kismaayo and their work with the Italians.they have become its representative Politically and in order for these in baadiyaha to obtain their ID card and subarloogo they asked them to change their clan identity such as cawrmale and Ahmad Adan of Gaaljecel and finally Galgala whom they met in Dhadaab camp for the first time and today they are a large community in Kismayo under Nuux maxamuud. Last year, during the harti vs cawramale war i posted in one thread a man claiming ahmed Adan as Bahgareen of Cusman maxamuud and i posted the video and then i saw a guy in SSP claiming them based on my post![]()
i think you are SPM in that thread. i consider OG dadka deegaanka oo ugu badan laakiin maadama ay daarood yihiin siyaasiyan bas loo dulmiyay laakiin aan hawiyadooda la badalin laakin sidoo kale Cawramale iyo gaaljecel waa joogaan haba idinka yaraadaan.
Raaskambooni is uder Badhaadhe oo OG ah laakin axmed aadan waaye gudoomiyaha. i made my point so let us not hijack the thread and stop here. thank you
20:51 to 20:00 cawramale guy vs odey harti who mentions ahmed adan as bahgareen or bagareen(osman maxamuud)
and here the guy who stole my info
https://www.somalispot.com/threads/kudhaa.92058/page-2
https://so.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ras_kambooni
Also for Raas Kamboni it’s true it comes under Badhaadhe district but the town is Bajuni & Ogaden fully today even if you claim not the Ogadens will just continue filling up the city like Hawiyes did with Mogadishu and Cadcad! Close towns near areas like Kulbiyow and Buurgaavo are also Ogaden as well as neighboring Kiunga and Hulugho where Reer Garissa & Lamu Ogadens live !
Sahal we all know Somalispot is Dhabacyo central. They are well known to Gate keep certain discussions. You know that Dhabacyo from Garowe who calls himself “Libaax Joore” kkkk these people are delusional they have now become like Boons claiming Ogaden land what’s funny is they will delete your chats if you try to call them out. That’s why many people are leaving that weird site.