Still Succession to the Al Shabaab throne is limited to Dir

[Murax]

Al shabab has 1.5 system. Dir including Isaaq are 1, the rest of us are 0.5

Ustaadh Sahal said Al Shaydaan Waa Hawiye. So are Hawiye a bot Army fighting under Dir?

[sahal80]

Al shabab has 1.5 system. Dir including Isaaq are 1, the rest of us are 0.5

Ustaadh Sahal said Al Shaydaan Waa Hawiye. So are Hawiye a bot Army fighting under Dir?

Yes. Kablalax Daarood left it. there were clashes in Jubooyinka between Al Shabaab and Daacish OGs who got eliminated. Mj abd harti members gone to PL and established Daesh under Cali Saleebaan. Daish eliminated Al Shabaab warsangali who r at peace with SL bc of their Dir leadership. even Daacish harti don't do mass killings in PL. PL stopped al shabaab koonfur reaching them at one point so there Harti stuff between them. if we had Hawiye leadership meel baa loogu soo hagaagi lahaa

these are Daish OG

[sahal80]

You can try to use that as an excuse to target the surre of hiiran. But they will karbaash you , and you can not spread false information from them because they have access to all isaaq media platforms, in fact most surre are ahlu Sunna waljameeca they have nothing to do with wahaabs. Surre is not like gaaljecel even those Djiboutians you rely on are their cousins.

Dir ma heesano waxaan ka shifeynaa in al Shabaab qabiil ku dhisantahay. Daarood mar horey ka baxeen oo Daacish sameysteen waxa qawsaarada u ah waa Hawiye ooy laayaan. hadii Hogaanka Hawiye ahaan lahaa atleast wadahadal baa lala furi lahaa mana jiraan dil saf mar ah. Intan uusan Godane shuurada ka taqalusin oo uu xoog isticmaalin dagaalkii uu ku dilay ibrahim afghani oo Xassan Dahir iyo Roobow isku dhiibeen, Hawiyaha ku jira waa la fahmi karey waliba Kuwa Hiiraan oo Yuusuf Ugaas madax u ahaa maslaxada tolka ayaa naga dhaxeysay adeerkiis ugaaska wuu ka danbeeyay. kadib waxay talada gacanta u gashey qawleysato reer waqooyi ah iyo Dir itoobiya degta oon cidooda la xasuuqeen. Bal fiiri sidey Baladweyne dhulka ula simeen car waa kaas Hargeysa ama burco haku sameeyaan. Tusaale kale waxaa Shabeelada hoose isku dagaali jiray HG iyo Biyamaal waaliga xawaadle uu ahaa wuxuu sameeyay musaalaxo ah dhulka hala wada joogo si nabad ah. Ahmed diiriye ayaa buriyay waaligii xawaadle markii biyamaal dacwoodeen.

There is a Reason why alshabaab pick their leaders outside the mainstream clans in the south. It's called politics, they don't want local leaders , because they can have alternative ambitions , good example is axmed madoobe , roobow iwm. Isaaq is the perfect choice for alshabaab leadership for the following reasons

1. They have no stake in the southern lands. In other words they can't exit the group . once they get in , There is no going back.
2. Jihadis from Somaliland are not just fighters, they are among the most educated in this wahabi doctrine , so their small numbers occupy large percentage of alshabaab circle of scholars . Top Leaders always comes from the scholars not the fighters .
3. They are less likely , to be influenced by the local sentiment. And more likely to bring alcadli bayna naas, they spare no one .

No No waxba lama socotid. Al Shabaab markii la aasasayay groupka Caraale, Godane iyo Ibrahim Afghani oo Isaaq ah waxay heesteen Al qaida funding network pakistan ay ka imaaden iyo Afganistan nin liibiyaan ayay hoostagi jireen. maadama ay shabaka al maaliyah heesteen waxaana aheen urur Soomaliyeed, Groupkii Isaaqa ayaa Dirirism la imaadey. Ahmed Diiriye waxaa la goaamiyay intuu Godane as his successor. Mahad Karatee oo HG oo sawir bas aminniyaatka ka ah baa ahaa ninka labaad systemkooda laakin ma dhaxlin!

Hadana Nadiir oo dir oo la dilay! Nadiir oo Gabar Hawiye qaba ayaa hawiyahaas u arkaan nin u dhaw

[theyuusuf143]

Ustaad Sahalow all terrorist's Dirs in the south should be genocided, we HGs are already doing this great deed, we even took out the Biimaal terrorist waafow in Marka, today marka is in our complete control, alhamdulillahi our Hero Halyeey Mahad Salaad is doing Allah's good work massacring all those Terrorist Dirs Alshabaabs.

Mark my words after Mahad Salaad is done, no Dir terrorists will be found alive in South Somalia.

I am confident you will never be able to defeat biimaal. Go back to the history books. They are not masaakiin clan , they were and still are one of the most warlike Clans in the south. Long lasting peace is good for both of you . They should accept your presence in the region, and you must return any thing that fairly belongs to them. For example if you took a government owned farmland close to their territory , it belongs to both of you until the government is taking back it's property.

only langaab begs like this.

I didn't beg yet, a have whole book of phrases when it comes to begging Habar gidir. I need to share these scientifically tested methods of begging to all the endangered clans around habar gidir. You better buy my book brother.

[OwQariib]

Alshabaab mar buu qabasho lahaa and that was in 2009. Sharif did his best to remove them from Mogadishu as a physical presence but the setback was when Xisbul Islaam was formed. Since the ICU was the first time a pan Somali islamic organisation was built, Al Islaax, Al Waxdah, Al Nahda, Aal Sheikh, Damul Jadiid, Itixaad, Sufi and Jihadi groups that all existed seperately had members in the umbrella group, they should have given Sharif more confidence in his leadership and make a united stand against Alshabaab but they chose to remain divided just to end up with Xisbul Islaam getting absorbed by AS. Dahir Aweys especially is responsible for the alshabaab cancer that grew in Somalia. He used his authority to promote them as an elite force, protected them from ICU figures that tried to disband them, he handpicked their first commander Ayrow, he sent fighters to train in Afghanistan and Pakistan where they were housed by Sheikh Bashir Salad the HG current 'chairman' of the council of scholars in Somalia today and an in law of Fahad Yasin. To get kicked out of a group you once granted patronage to and then run back to your clan after you put their sons to the sword or against the sword who still welcome you is the paradox of clan in Somalia. 2009 was really another 1991 a chance and an opportunity squandered.

[Gubbet]

another 1991 a chance and an opportunity squandered.

It was never a "chance." Even as opposition groups, they were not a "group," but tribally divided factions.

You would think this 1991 fantasy outcome would die in in USC apologists just as it has died in all other groups including fellow rebel groups.

Celebrate the outcome, even overthrowing"Afweyne" but the this infantile relationship with accepting inevitability is intellectually inferior. A predictable outcome has no place for "chance.'

What happened was inevitable.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

Idoors admitting they’re terrorists?

[mahoka]

Hawiye ICU terrorists like sheikh shariif and David aways kept switching sides and now the other hawiye, raxanweyn and darod who make up the lower ranks can’t trust them hutu boys lol.

[Isseayaanle]

No wonder why Ogadens are banned from ever holding high positions within Al-Shabab and marginalized in their own regions. The cuqdad filled Iidoors are littered within this group
“Jihad for thee but not for Me”

Hargeisa is the only major city in Somalia where a suicide attack did not take place in over 15 years. Even nearby Bosaso that has the same security system as them has been suffering quite more than Somaliland when it comes to terrorism.

And yes cagdheer hold high positions in alshabaab. Axmed madoobe is one of them. Don't tell me axmed madoobe is not alshabaab.

We’re talking about the present. Madoobe was apart of the Muqawamat resistance which included sheikh sharif,Mukhtar Roobow, Farhan Qaroole and many others who fought against the Tigray forces that invaded Mogadishu.

There is not a single notable Ogaden Al-Shabab leader nor will there ever be! So I chuckle when niggas like to bring up Madoobe as if he hasn’t been fighting them since 2009!

Al-Shabab don’t want to give Ogadens any position because they are afraid that we will destroy them from the inside out, and that is exactly what we dream of

Al-Shabab is full of langaabs & Garam Garams. The current leader is from the minority sect of Dir which is called Bajimaal. When people say Langaab waa ahlu Naar they wasn’t lying.

You should be the last one calling people Laangaab. You wouldn’t need Kenyan troops to protect you in kismayo and Abdi iley slave in Ethiopia. Save us the bullshit. Altleast Biyamaal fought foreigners why are you in the past and the present still serving them. Your foreign loved leaders will be used and discarded in jail just like abdi iley.

[sahal80]

Alshabaab mar buu qabasho lahaa and that was in 2009. Sharif did his best to remove them from Mogadishu as a physical presence but the setback was when Xisbul Islaam was formed. Since the ICU was the first time a pan Somali islamic organisation was built, Al Islaax, Al Waxdah, Al Nahda, Aal Sheikh, Damul Jadiid, Itixaad, Sufi and Jihadi groups that all existed seperately had members in the umbrella group, they should have given Sharif more confidence in his leadership and make a united stand against Alshabaab but they chose to remain divided just to end up with Xisbul Islaam getting absorbed by AS. Dahir Aweys especially is responsible for the alshabaab cancer that grew in Somalia. He used his authority to promote them as an elite force, protected them from ICU figures that tried to disband them, he handpicked their first commander Ayrow, he sent fighters to train in Afghanistan and Pakistan where they were housed by Sheikh Bashir Salad the HG current 'chairman' of the council of scholars in Somalia today and an in law of Fahad Yasin. To get kicked out of a group you once granted patronage to and then run back to your clan after you put their sons to the sword or against the sword who still welcome you is the paradox of clan in Somalia. 2009 was really another 1991 a chance and an opportunity squandered.

waa sax in Al Shabaab minority ku ahaayeen oo saaxada Xassan Dahir iyo Shariif u xirneed waa sababta Al Shabaab loogu aasaasey jubada hoose oo gadaal ay Adan Ceyrow wasiirka gaashaandhiga(رئيس المكتب العسكرى)u isticmaali doonaan si uu Xamar iyo gobolada dhexe ugu qabto laakin Shariif ayaa Fashilka abuurey markuu aqbalay in Amisom ilaaliso. intaan la dooran ka hor asagoo Xamar soo galay "socdaalka Nabada" oo yeeyna baxay wuxuu tagey Jowhar Kabokutukade iyo waxaan waxbo ma eheen saaxada Abgaal asagaa heestey. Nasiib daro hal mar ayuu afarjeeble isku badalay oo Amisom dabada la galay waxaa loo arkey nin yeey la mid ah hal mar wuxuu waayey xataa Abgaalkii oo kabakutukade raacey!

waxaa jiray Qorshe Cumar Xaashi wadey oo uu khilaafay asagoo markaas ahaa xooghayaha Gudaha ee dibuxoreynta. Qorshaha wuxuu ahaa in mujaahidiinta la qarameeyo oo ciidanka laga dhigo oon amisom lagu tiirnaan. Hiiraan wuu ka hirgalay mudo sanad ah maamul TFG raacsan baa ka jiray ayadoon amisom walaa itoobiya joogaan dhamaan hiiraan Sheikh macoowna ninkii maxaakimta ka soo harey duulaanka itoobiya ka hor wuxuu noqdey gudoomiyaha gobolka, Gen mukhtaar taliyaha ciidamada waxaa soo noqdey dabageed iyo Adan Garaaso iyo Abdikarim laqanyo waayo anaga halgankeena Qabali uu ahaa ma aheed Jihaadi Omar Hashi baa qabsadey Halgan iyo Baladweyne oo ka soo baxay asmara halka Shariif iyo Hassan Dahir iska fadhiyeen Asmara.

itoobiya november 2008 ay Baladweyne ka baxdey Omar Hashi waxaa la dilay june 2009 asaga iyo 70 odey ah waxay keentay Khalkhal in wadaadada soo hanqaltaagaan laakin ilaa october 2009 Macow ayaa wali dawlada ku xirnaa markii danbe Xisbul islam uu u leexday. macoow waa groupkii shariif waxaa cajiib ah in asagoo follwer ah uu amisoom ku tiisaneen halka Shariiif oo madaxii ah asagoo amisom ku tiirsanaado! waxay isku khilaafeen itoobiya soo gali qarash amni uma haayp kaalmeeso!

macoow wuxuu dhahay intii aan itoobiya u dhiibi lahaa xisbul islam baan ku wareejin waana isaga tagay dalka

Dhinaca Hassan Dahir xukunka uu rabay waa ninka u sabab ah in itoobiya Xamar qabsato. Abdullahi Yuusuf ayadoo labo sano bas u dhimsntahay ayaa Shariif sakiin oo Baydhabo atoore ka ahaa wuxuu tagey Xamar wuxuu usoo bandhigay Heshiis ah in maxaakimta qaataan pm ah ninkaan yeeyna labadiisa sano loo dhaafo Baydhabo asagana uu meesha ka yahay al kul bil kul Xamar tiinana iska jooga inta doorashada ka dhaceyso waxaa bilmaambay wadahadaladii khartuum between sakiin iyo maxaakimta waxaa taageeray UNka waxaa xataa la soo saarey resolution u diidaya dalalka dariska inay Somalia galaan. kan wuxuu ahaa chance ugu weyn ooy maxaakimta dayaceen waxaana diidayay xukun doon xassan Dahir

Yeey waa ka faaideystey diidmadas asaga iyo itoobiya waxay ka taqaluseen sakiin markii ay Xamar qabsadeen

Qaladka labaad Shariif ayaa galay oo mashruucii amisom qaatey. asaga iyo yeey waa isku mid. Hadii Shariif oo heestey Ala Sheekh dhan Abgaal, Murusade(janaqow) Xawaadle iyo Sacad iyo saleebaan HG Sheikh Abdilkadir iyo kii Cabdiraxman cadoow ee FMka maxaakimta ahaa hadii uu mabdiiisa non amisom ku dhagi lahaa waxaan heesan laheen Shariif vs Hassan Dahir waana la soo dhex geli lahaa

[noer]

ustad yusuf. why u making us look bad

idoor n dir are different tribes. idoor terrorists in the ex italian colony don't rep sland but i like ur attitude towards taking sides in the quarels between the ex italian colony's tribes me tink sland should find allies in the ex italian colony against the ex italian colony's al shabab

[theyuusuf143]

ustad yusuf. why u making us look bad

idoor n dir are different tribes. idoor terrorists in the ex italian colony don't rep sland but i like ur attitude towards taking sides in the quarels between the ex italian colony's tribes me tink sland should find allies in the ex italian colony against the ex italian colony's al shabab

Nimanka qadaadweynta illeen qaranimaynu isku haynaaye masiibo kasta oo ay u maaro waaayaan, anaga Ka danbayna la dhahaa . Why aad uga xanaaqi hebel iyo hebel baa idinka yimi , yes way Ka yimaden Hebel iyo hebel inay ummad dhan sidaa dalkooda ugu ciyaaran, inagana ay inagu dhex noolaan Kari waayen laba wax uunbay muujinsysa. In isaaqu dad feejigan yihiin iyo in qadaadweyntu yihiin dad u nugul in wax kasta lagu shubto. Somalidu waxad Ka xanaaqdo bay kula daba galaan. Bada gebiley waa inaynu mujaahid Godane ugu magac darna. Sayidkuba waaka badhtanka muqdishu iyo Jigjiga taalada Ku leh .



Intaa hadaan Ka imaado adeer Iidoor are part and parcel of Dir block , it doesn't matter if we are true brothers or not , we leave that for the science,. I don't think all isaaqs are brothers too. The most important pillar for any qabiil is the methodology. I subscribe to the Dir Irir mythology . Honestly I Very much dislike any thing associated with the Arabian peninsula , and every curse they brought to our shores. Including the qabyaalad, the qaad and the religion. The ancestoral names of Dir irir samaale gives me unique Somali identity . I am not ina faadumo rasuul, I am ina bahalkii.

[Rebelxx222]

Al shabab has 1.5 system. Dir including Isaaq are 1, the rest of us are 0.5

Ustaadh Sahal said Al Shaydaan Waa Hawiye. So are Hawiye a bot Army fighting under Dir?

Yes. Kablalax Daarood left it. there were clashes in Jubooyinka between Al Shabaab and Daacish OGs who got eliminated. Mj abd harti members gone to PL and established Daesh under Cali Saleebaan. Daish eliminated Al Shabaab warsangali who r at peace with SL bc of their Dir leadership. even Daacish harti don't do mass killings in PL. PL stopped al shabaab koonfur reaching them at one point so there Harti stuff between them. if we had Hawiye leadership meel baa loogu soo hagaagi lahaa

these are Daish OG

Those Daish fighters were mostly Foreigners aka Muhajireen that arrived in Somalia. Al-Shabab either killed or arrested majority of the foreigners that joined their rank under the Godane regime, so you can clearly say Al-Shabab is a Somali limited group. Back to the main topic- Al-Shabab made sure to erase the Ex Hizbul Islam Ogaden fighters that joined their ranks. Majority of the Hizbul islam Ogaden forces in Middle Juba were eradicated. The Hizbul islam ex commander Dhulyadeen waa la qaarijiye isagana

Al-Shabab gave out his coordinates and had him killed in a drone strike. Al- Shabab leaders are known to be killed in their major stronghold hideouts so why was Dhulyadeen killed near the frontlines? Because they wanted to get rid of him easily without having to do the dirty work themselves!

As Yusuf said yes it’s true Al-Shabab prefer “scholars” over soldiers, because at the moment they are seeking legitimacy using the Diin. It’s most likely that the newly recruit Adan Sunne is next inline for the Amirship over the Madax Jabis specialist Mahad Karaatay.

[noer]

ustad yusuf. why u making us look bad

idoor n dir are different tribes. idoor terrorists in the ex italian colony don't rep sland but i like ur attitude towards taking sides in the quarels between the ex italian colony's tribes me tink sland should find allies in the ex italian colony against the ex italian colony's al shabab

Nimanka qadaadweynta illeen qaranimaynu isku haynaaye masiibo kasta oo ay u maaro waaayaan, anaga Ka danbayna la dhahaa . Why aad uga xanaaqi hebel iyo hebel baa idinka yimi , yes way Ka yimaden Hebel iyo hebel inay ummad dhan sidaa dalkooda ugu ciyaaran, inagana ay inagu dhex noolaan Kari waayen laba wax uunbay muujinsysa. In isaaqu dad feejigan yihiin iyo in qadaadweyntu yihiin dad u nugul in wax kasta lagu shubto. Somalidu waxad Ka xanaaqdo bay kula daba galaan. Bada gebiley waa inaynu mujaahid Godane ugu magac darna. Sayidkuba waaka badhtanka muqdishu iyo Jigjiga taalada Ku leh .



Intaa hadaan Ka imaado adeer Iidoor are part and parcel of Dir block , it doesn't matter if we are true brothers or not , we leave that for the science,. I don't think all isaaqs are brothers too. The most important pillar for any qabiil is the methodology. I subscribe to the Dir Irir mythology . Honestly I Very much dislike any thing associated with the Arabian peninsula , and every curse they brought to our shores. Including the qabyaalad, the qaad and the religion. The ancestoral names of Dir irir samaale gives me unique Somali identity . I am not ina faadumo rasuul, I am ina bahalkii.

not gonna dwell on ur dir mythology. lakin wa khasab in anu ka qayb qadano ciyaraha qadadweynland

kenya wahay wadata kohda madobe. abiy kohdisa wa badhasab deni iyo magertenland. anagu wa inanu inaguna ka qayb qadana kafaala qaadka qadadweynland. adigu waha donayso kafala qadka surre iyo biyamal wayo wa wahad aminsantahay khurafatka dir. haday xaqiq tahay xita dirnimadas, waxa la donaya wada xajod u dhexeya somaliand iyo beelaha qadadweynland. surre iyo biyamal muxu uqabanaya sland?

we can't let trybal myth dictate somaliland foreign policy towards the ex italian colony. dolbahanta n wasakhgalis are also part of sland. our alliance with qadadweynland tribes gotta be for the best of somaliland. including dolbahanta n wasakhgalis. tribal myths can't dictate that. tribal myths are setting back both somaliland n somalia