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i heard about the imminent fall of Boocame from Cali Xaraare months ago. It all has to do with boocame becoming pro SL due to Hassan Ugaas conflict with Ciise maxamuud. so Mj and Dhulbahante are becoming like OG and Mx in JL?

sahal80 wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:21 pm i heard about the imminent fall of Boocame from Cali Xaraare months ago. It all has to do with boocame becoming pro SL due to Hassan Ugaas conflict with Ciise maxamuud. so Mj and Dhulbahante are becoming like OG and Mx in JL?

They are angry at the Ciise Maxamuud, not the Osman Maxamuud. The land belongs to Hassan Ugaas and nobody is denying that. Laakiin, evicting and killing your own xidid isn't normal. The overreaction is not normal. It's like you killing hundreds of Gaaljecels in Beledweyne.

Ghiklo wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:36 pm

sahal80 wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:21 pm i heard about the imminent fall of Boocame from Cali Xaraare months ago. It all has to do with boocame becoming pro SL due to Hassan Ugaas conflict with Ciise maxamuud. so Mj and Dhulbahante are becoming like OG and Mx in JL?

They are angry at the Ciise Maxamuud, not the Osman Maxamuud. The land belongs to Hassan Ugaas and nobody is denying that. Laakiin, evicting and killing your own xidid isn't normal. The overreaction is not normal. It's like you killing hundreds of Gaaljecels in Beledweyne.

LOL there is no war between Hawadle and Gaaljecel in Baladweyne. our Ugaas is seen as the Ugaas of Hiiraan so he never allowed an attack on Gaaljecel. secondly we don't share borders as Gaaljecel live far from the river no reer miyi clashes between us the Jareer who r stronger on west of the river and right now they have macawisleey in there Al Shabaab starts from the gaaljecel territory luuqjeelow 25km from the river and in buuloburde and Jalalaqsi between us baadicade however they have this clash with Jijeele their immediate neighbourhood. Shouldn't you Daarood boqor fix this like the Ugaas of Hiiraan?

sahal80 wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:47 pm

Ghiklo wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:36 pm

sahal80 wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:21 pm i heard about the imminent fall of Boocame from Cali Xaraare months ago. It all has to do with boocame becoming pro SL due to Hassan Ugaas conflict with Ciise maxamuud. so Mj and Dhulbahante are becoming like OG and Mx in JL?

They are angry at the Ciise Maxamuud, not the Osman Maxamuud. The land belongs to Hassan Ugaas and nobody is denying that. Laakiin, evicting and killing your own xidid isn't normal. The overreaction is not normal. It's like you killing hundreds of Gaaljecels in Beledweyne.

LOL there is no war between Hawadle and Gaaljecel in Baladweyne. our Ugaas is seen as the Ugaas of Hiiraan so he never allowed an attack on Gaaljecel. secondly we don't share borders as Gaaljecel live far from the river no reer miyi clashes between us the Jareer who r stronger on west of the river and right now they have macawisleey in there Al Shabaab starts from the gaaljecel territory luuqjeelow 25km from the river and in buuloburde and Jalaqsi between is baadicade they have this clash with Jijeele theur immediate neighbourhood. Shouldn't you Daarood boqor fix this like the Ugaas of Hiiraan?

It has been solved and everyone is back at their respective borders. I was using the Gaaljecel in Beledweyne as an example. Of course, I don't know where so and so lives. Just look at the conflict like this, a couple of HGs who have lived in Beledweyne for generations build some tuulos (this is just an example). Then in retaliation, several Xawaadle mooryaans kill and evict scores of those HGs . Who is in the wrong?

Don't believe this liar.
It was puntland/ Mahmoud Salebaan policy to expand Garowe westwards along the highway and into the countryside, and Burtinle west and north.

All the weapons and teckniko were placed at their disposal and they were able to kill scores of Hassan Ugaas geeljires who only had rusty old AK47s.

After Dhulbahante regrouped we were able to decisively defeat the mj and expelled them back across the border.

Now coming here playing the victim......these people are snakes

Ghiklo wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:55 pm

sahal80 wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:47 pm

Ghiklo wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 4:36 pm

They are angry at the Ciise Maxamuud, not the Osman Maxamuud. The land belongs to Hassan Ugaas and nobody is denying that. Laakiin, evicting and killing your own xidid isn't normal. The overreaction is not normal. It's like you killing hundreds of Gaaljecels in Beledweyne.

LOL there is no war between Hawadle and Gaaljecel in Baladweyne. our Ugaas is seen as the Ugaas of Hiiraan so he never allowed an attack on Gaaljecel. secondly we don't share borders as Gaaljecel live far from the river no reer miyi clashes between us the Jareer who r stronger on west of the river and right now they have macawisleey in there Al Shabaab starts from the gaaljecel territory luuqjeelow 25km from the river and in buuloburde and Jalaqsi between is baadicade they have this clash with Jijeele theur immediate neighbourhood. Shouldn't you Daarood boqor fix this like the Ugaas of Hiiraan?

It has been solved and everyone is back at their respective borders. I was using the Gaaljecel in Beledweyne as an example. Of course, I don't know where so and so lives. Just look at the conflict like this, a couple of HGs move into Beledweyne and build some tuulos (this is just an example). Then in retaliation, several Xawaadle mooryaans kill and evict those HGs. Who is in the wrong?

Gaaljecel and us we don't have nomadic clashes and we have one adminstration also we r not the same clan we both are standalone Samaale clans and they r not only reer Hiiraan they are Reer Jowhar, Reer koonfur galbeed and Reer JL. yes we have Nomadic clashes between Habar Aji Ceyr and Maxamed Cali madaxweyne(Hawadle) but we still have one adminstration in Hiiraan also r not technically the same clan you supposed to be like Hiraab who run the current govt. anyways im out!

Waayee Iiidooorow dee Garowe qabsate Galkacyo qabsada inyar bey idiinjidhaa deee, cid idinka hortaagan majidho yalaaah.

original dervish wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:08 pm Don't believe this liar.
It was puntland/ Mahmoud Salebaan policy to expand Garowe westwards along the highway and into the countryside, and Burtinle west and north.

All the weapons and teckniko were placed at their disposal and they were able to kill scores of Hassan Ugaas geeljires who only had rusty old AK47s.

After Dhulbahante regrouped we were able to decisively defeat the mj and expelled them back across the border.

Now coming here playing the victim......these people are snakes

i see so you have territorial dispute. once this hawiye odey told me(i don't know if its true or no) he was doing after school Gurmad duty in Garowe in the 80s and the only restaurant was dhulbahante i was like Wow i didn't know dhulbahante were that close to Garowe.

original dervish wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:08 pm Don't believe this liar.
It was puntland/ Mahmoud Salebaan policy to expand Garowe westwards along the highway and into the countryside, and Burtinle west and north.

All the weapons and teckniko were placed at their disposal and they were able to kill scores of Hassan Ugaas geeljires who only had rusty old AK47s.

After Dhulbahante regrouped we were able to decisively defeat the mj and expelled them back across the border.

Now coming here playing the victim......these people are snakes

Have the balls to quote me. You know nothing and it shows. So the whole of Dhulbahante has gang up on Reer Yoonis and Bah Dubays. Ceebta waa la asturtaa.

Reer Yoonis and Bah Dubays have lived in Bocaame district for decades, although Hassan Ugaas is the majority. Wallahi there was no one fighting you besides Reer Yoonis (Ciise Maxamuud) and Bah Dubays. There is a reason why you are the most divided clan, you all love xaqdaro.

Yeah right, if we had the advantage then why did the fighting start at Birta Dheer? As a response, Reer Yoonis pushed you back to Saax Maygaag. Your clan was caught on camera destroying the house of a woman who is your xidid. You aren't in a position to call anyone names.

Nonetheless, it ain't any skin off my nose. I won't step foot in your land, but large amounts of you live in Garowe.

Waadh idinku Glkcyo qabsada deee, Xawaadlana qoodhaha ha dhavo deeee

This just confirmed my held beliefs that with DULBHANTE both putland and Somaliland can’t set foot in SSC.

bashe19 wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:46 pm

Waadh idinku Glkcyo qabsada deee, Xawaadlana qoodhaha ha dhavo deeee

their father is Al shabaab officer but that doesn't justify killing them or cutting off their genitals Ai jeyte is gonna pay their diyo and medicine. from one side it sounds good policy as people r now targeting Al Shabaab wives and family members we shouldn't be soft on them this is the problem of Xamar. btw these guys who got killed for their father r Hawadle.

Al Shabaab wives who fled from Yasooman around Buuloburde to KG they r not local. al Shabaab and their families need to be eradicated. if people of Xamar do this wallahi Al Shabaab will disappear in few months. ولكم فى القصاص حياة dilka mujrim nolol kabadan ayuu badbaadiyaa
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Giklo,

A better example for Sahal, would be the Hawadle and Dir conflict that resulted in very sharp clashes in an areq between two locations known as Kabxanlay and Deefoow.

Secondly, you are asking the question "who is at fault" when you literally said, I will quote you;

The land belongs to Hassan Ugaas and nobody is denying that.

The fault did not began with Hassan Ugaas.

This is the thing about Justice, you need to be aware of your Injustice (generally).

Really the role played by Majerten is similar to the role played by Ogadeen against Marehan in centeal regions.

By that I mean, because of historical "border" conflict (Somalia vs Ethiopia for Marehan and Somaliland vs Somalia for Dhulbahante) both groups faced antagonists who relied on multiple pressures against the two to take advantage of for benefit in a long historical conflict about resource.

So Marehan is facing "Hawiye" groups (particularly Rer Hobyo and Rer Cadaado and Rer Guriceel) and Dhulbahante is facing "Isaaq" groups (Rer Baligubadle and Rer Caynaba and Rer Danood)---with strong, historical conflict of resources predating even the international boundaries and national politics that was being used by the "reero" sometimes even inspite of let alone sanctioned by say the national authority in Hargeisa or Mogadishu...

...and Ogaden and Majerteen come randomly, given the extenuating conflict about resources and land ownership I am currently involved in with heridatary foes who are even directly taking advantage of and being bouyed by the overall national boundary issue as a force multiplication----

And Ogaden instituting a land dispute at that same moment to come and build equity around Fadhigaraadle and Majerten does the same against Dhulbahange to institite at that same moment the start of a land dispute in Boocame.

Walaal, the fact of what you understand when you said "Hassan Ugaas owns the land" clearly recognizing they are not aggressor but offense.-

---in the middle of Dhulbahante in a war of equity with hereditary foes targeting him with conflict for that exact reason "land ownership" is so unforgivable and intensely even more detestable I can tell you personally as Marehan, I never saw Marehan lips so curled against the hereditary foes as I saw their lips furled against Makaahiil and Ogaden.

Colaada between I andy hereditary foes is one where we mutually and freely have identified each other as "belligerants" or party to an existing conflict.

But what OG just did is unforgivable.

So Marehan didn't win the clashes and go home as was done against the hereditary foces, because against Caleen, they sure to win the clash, then intentionally as further punishment seized livestokach even past the point of topic, and then even started hit and run going behind Caleen line and destroying berkedo in their own territory.

Because after all, "kuwaan dagaal cad baa naga dhaxeeye", what level of backstap is this from I placed my unprotected back?


I do not support any proliferation of conflict at all and all the innocents were God's children, but the tone of your address or even how you present is capable of animating extreme response from Dhullo.

Use the context walaal, no contents without context should sver be utilized OR THE BEST

bashe19 wrote: Mon Oct 31, 2022 5:19 pm Waayee Iiidooorow dee Garowe qabsate Galkacyo qabsada inyar bey idiinjidhaa deee, cid idinka hortaagan majidho yalaaah.

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