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This is a wedding but it is also political conference and meeting between irirs, Darood and Raxanweyn have been excluded, even those who supposed to be allies of HSM like Madoobe and Deni have been casted aside.

theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:29 am We don't want to have any noticeable power in Somalia at all. It's against our somaliland interest , so if mareexan picks some active members of isaaq, it means they are very serious to dismantle the isaaq project in somaliland. You even selected them based on qabiil lines, for example there are no CBB members of the habar awal clan.

99.99% of CBB are garxajis, you pick them for a reason and we do understand why . When hawiye are selecting isaaqs they don't check their background , they give the opportunity to who ever comes first.

Correlation vs Causation

Correlation = Most Isaaq unionist CBB members are Garxajis not Habar Awal

Causation= Most Isaaq unionists who have prominently joined southern politics starting from Tuur in 1995 to to Artan 1999 to TFG 2006 to FGS 2012 have been Garxajis so they would be the largest share of any Isaaq group in anything southern

Tuur = Garxajis
Buubaa = Garxajis
Fowsia =Garxajis
Ridwaan = Garxajis
Mahdi = Garxajis
Abdi Xaashi = Garxajis

...

Non of them represent garxajis or isaaq at large. Besides Tuur who was the snm leader and former president of somaliland

Ridwaan is also not garxajis is habarjeclo

Cabdi xaashi the senate leader he is habar awal

Non of them represent their so called clans

Khalid Ali wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:24 am Non of them represent garxajis or isaaq at large. Besides Tuur who was the snm leader and former president of somaliland

Ridwaan is also not garxajis is habarjeclo

Cabdi xaashi the senate leader he is habar awal

Non of them represent their so called clans

Correct Khalid but quick correction Ridwan is Habar Yoonis

Khalid Ali wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:24 am Non of them represent garxajis or isaaq at large. Besides Tuur who was the snm leader and former president of somaliland

Ridwaan is also not garxajis is habarjeclo

Cabdi xaashi the senate leader he is habar awal

Non of them represent their so called clans

Ridwaan is Sacad Yoonis, but wow Abdi Xaashi really is Sacad Muuse. Why did I think the old goat was Habar Yoonis this whole time?

Also Khalid I never said they represent a clan, I simply identified WHAT their clan background is.

Yeah ridwan is hy I found out now I always thought he. Was habarjeclo but I found out his reer abti are hj Laakin wa haberyonis.

Abdi xaashi is habar awal sacad muse nuux ismaciil reer shirdoon clan wise he is close to me and muse biixi

Garxajis aka Guno xajis are the igu Shubo of Isaaq. Hungry people. Habar Awal esp Sacad muuse are the ones eating good in SL. So Garxajis being sidelined in SL basically looma ooyaan made them come to Xamar and NN was giving them loads of lacag in exchange of their loyalty. TERRA and Naciimo are good examples. Hadana shaax iyo shuwarma bey ku cunayaan Istanbul.

Gubbet wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 11:30 am

Khalid Ali wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:24 am Non of them represent garxajis or isaaq at large. Besides Tuur who was the snm leader and former president of somaliland

Ridwaan is also not garxajis is habarjeclo

Cabdi xaashi the senate leader he is habar awal

Non of them represent their so called clans

Ridwaan is Sacad Yoonis, but wow Abdi Xaashi really is Sacad Muuse. Why did I think the old goat was Habar Yoonis this whole time?

Also Khalid I never said they represent a clan, I simply identified WHAT their clan background is.

What I wonder is why is this irir thing one sided and means isaaq lose out always


From 1960-1991 hawiye and darod colluded to keep isaaq out of the top spot while isaaq supported the hawiye lol

The two pms from isaaq (1960-1991) were pms under darod presidents - hawiye was not even willing to have isaaq pm lol


Why do you think middle aged isaaq such as Khalid and Yusuf keep talking about irir nonsense? They won’t answer this question ninyahow. There is a weird split between young isaaq who see hawiye as not an ally and older isaaq who see hawiye as friends lol- could it be due to less historic education for older isaaq who are emotional people. Lot of isaaq supported hsm until he made his famous anti SL speech in which they started crying about him, most educated young isaaq supported farmaajo since he took a pro China/Russia stance alongside Ethiopia and Eritrea - this would’ve been beneficial for isaaq since the US/west would pivot to SL. Yet the politicians/establishment and 40/50/60 year old isaaq were pro hsm who is also pro west lol

Khalid, thanks for the info.

Mahoka--good question. It sort of resembles a general divide between Marehan regarding "Ethiopia."

The old generation, and those who blanket adopt what is told them by the older generation, are 5 star Somali irredentists who don't understand nor will comprehend the unimaginable destruction and damage reaped on Marehan uniquely within the Somali people because of their idiotic nonsense about "Xuduud Beenaad."

80% of Marehan land in central Somalia is on the Ethiopian side of the international provisional boundary and our idiotic elders and their ideological robots in the following generations will say "Xuduud Beenaadka."

If it is "Xuduud Beenaad," then how come for 80 years you have no mayor of your choosing over Raqo, Golwayn, Fadhigaraadle? How come you don't have a single Marehan governor that presided over Buuro and Shilaabo? How come you have not had a single Marehan minister from that land with legislative power? How come you aren't the "police" and the "military" with state agency. If it is "Xuduud Beenaad" how come you are the ONLY ONE of the Somali communities living in "Ethiopia" who has 0 political existence. 5 kms past Caabudwaaq and Balanbale, where 80% of your land starts and more importantly 98% of your historical grazing---you might as well not even exist for the last 80+ years running because of your foolish nonsense about "Xuduud Beenaad."

My generation and younger has realized that Xuduud is "real," what is "Beenaad" is your foolish nonsense! Get out of the way Adeer--you have done enough damage to us already! And for God's sake zip it about your "Xuduud Beenaad" mumbling! We are sick and tired of this lunacy!

AbkoowDhiblaawe wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 8:19 pm Garxajis aka Guno xajis are the igu Shubo of Isaaq. Hungry people. Habar Awal esp Sacad muuse are the ones eating good in SL. So Garxajis being sidelined in SL basically looma ooyaan made them come to Xamar and NN was giving them loads of lacag in exchange of their loyalty. TERRA and Naciimo are good examples. Hadana shaax iyo shuwarma bey ku cunayaan Istanbul.

Your Abgaal leader is Hassan "AREEY XAA CUNAA MUGOOW LACAG AGOOMEED MAHAAN AA URSAA" Sheikh.

War ninka ummada Islaamka la qurmoonaa, dhuusadiisana la carfoona! Allahu Akbar!

Gubbet wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 5:46 am

theyuusuf143 wrote: Sat Dec 10, 2022 2:29 am We don't want to have any noticeable power in Somalia at all. It's against our somaliland interest , so if mareexan picks some active members of isaaq, it means they are very serious to dismantle the isaaq project in somaliland. You even selected them based on qabiil lines, for example there are no CBB members of the habar awal clan.

99.99% of CBB are garxajis, you pick them for a reason and we do understand why . When hawiye are selecting isaaqs they don't check their background , they give the opportunity to who ever comes first.

Correlation vs Causation

Correlation = Most Isaaq unionist CBB members are Garxajis not Habar Awal

Causation= Most Isaaq unionists who have prominently joined southern politics starting from Tuur in 1995 to to Artan 1999 to TFG 2006 to FGS 2012 have been Garxajis so they would be the largest share of any Isaaq group in anything southern

Tuur = Garxajis
Buubaa = Garxajis
Fowsia =Garxajis
Ridwaan = Garxajis
Mahdi = Garxajis
Abdi Xaashi = Garxajis

...

Been badana. HA are literally the only isaaq clan with presence, authority, influence, and history in Somalia. In the kacaan we were the most powerful clan second to only Mx, only recently did our influence there dwindle due to Maxamed Omar Carte fleeing to SL. All the people you named except for Cabdi Xashi are basically puppets in place who have no real influence other than to do their master's dirty work.

Here's a better List
-Muhammad Hawadle Madar - Prime Minister Of Somalia = CM Zubeeyri
-Umar Arteh Ghalib - Prime Minister&Foreign Minister of Somalia = SM Zubeeyri
-Mohamed Omar Arte - Vice President Of Somalia = SM Zubeeyri
-Mohamed Abdullahi Omaar - Foreign Minister Of Somalia = SM Zubeeyri
-Muhammad Haji Ibrahim Egal - First ever Prime Minister Of Somalia = CM Zubeeyri

I don't think your entire clan could even match against one of these men. One thing they have in common is they were all born to be rulers from a Pure Zubeeyri bloodLine.



Only ALLAH knows the hundreds of thousands of Zubeeyris in Europe, Africa, The Americas, and Asia running for office.

I know an instigator when I see one. I decline this bait.

Good gubbet that u don’t respond to this troll

Congrats.