HSM admin is destroying federalism in Somalia and Somalia is back to transitional stage

[Gubbet]

My advice to Majerten is look hard at your Somalia national policy and you will realize this reality;

You have no friends among Somalis. This is the truth. What happened to Deni & Puntland post-election is damning from both Hawiye & Og betrayal.

Your situation is predictable because your national policy is reactionary. You are "against" Marehan, you weren't "for" Madoobe. You were "against" Farmajo, you weren't "for" HAG.

Base your interest, your objective, your policy on what you "want" rather than what you "don't" want. If you want a strong Darod as bulwarks north and south holding Mogadishu in check, if you want a peaceful Jubbaland with stabilized politics, if you want a Marehan as the other half of Darod power in Somalia bringing his weight to bear on the same page as you championing federalism---then if you base your policy on what you want rather than what you don't want, I imagine a Puntland that invested so much in a effort as in the electionwould not be facing the same outcome given the result.

[ReturnOfMariixmaan]

My advice to Majerten is look hard at your Somalia national policy and you will realize this reality;

You have no friends among Somalis. This is the truth. What happened to Deni & Puntland post-election is damning from both Hawiye & Og betrayal.

Your situation is predictable because your national policy is reactionary. You are "against" Marehan, you weren't "for" Madoobe. You were "against" Farmajo, you weren't "for" HAG.

Base your interest, your objective, your policy on what you "want" rather than what you "don't" want. If you want a strong Darod as bulwarks north and south holding Mogadishu in check, if you want a peaceful Jubbaland with stabilized politics, if you want a Marehan as the other half of Darod power in Somalia bringing his weight to bear on the same page as you championing federalism---then if you base your policy on what you want rather than what you don't want, I imagine a Puntland that invested so much in a effort as in the electionwould not be facing the same outcome given the result.

Father complex like Jung said. No positive reinforcement tbf. Doesn’t bother me. I showed that wap my real face. Don’t try to mimic me nigga. I know how your capital get down. That’s why I’m mocking y’all. That’s why I’m drippy on y’all. My Detroit players know what’s up. I’m MUP on them.

[Isseayaanle]

There was a lot of hope for the HSM admin, but it seems he has not learned from his past mistakes. His administration is corrupt, clanists and want to destroy the progress made in Somalia. He has no respect for the provisional constitution, and wants to destroy the federalism system that all Somali’s agreed on. He wants to be the president of hawiyes only but steal the aid meant for all Somali’s. He wants to sell somali resources to the highest bidder and let’s other countries such as djibouti make decisions for Somalia.

Somalia is now headed back to the transitional stage thanks to HSM.

I agree with you on this: “ He wants to be the president of hawiyes only but steal the aid meant for all Somali’s. He wants to sell somali resources to the highest bidder and let’s other countries such as djibouti make decisions for Somalia.
Somalia is now headed back to the transitional stage thanks to HSM.”

But, No somalis other than putland agreed to federalism. As much as I hate centralism now due to hawiye.

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

What is the Asxaan Deni wants from HSM? Wasn't he doing dirty campaign to maneuver a Daarod election final. Deni vs Farmaajo. And get HAG backing? There's no need to cry now.

Puntland and MJ are Cadow. They do awrkacsi for dhulos but have no intention to help their fellow harti brethrens. Waa uun afka.

The reason they are angry at HSM now is because they want PM. Oo Ogaden so walaalkiina maha who backed you all these years?

MJs are sneaky as hell nobody trust you guys. Xaasid ma aflaxo aan maqli jiray.

[Isseayaanle]

As for the topic. Somaliland was first puntland is second and I see once jubbaland gets a xalal maamul they too will leave. Hutus can't have their cake and eat it too. Every darod president they fight against.

Hutus can't have both the presidency and the capital.

But as long as the capital is xamar and putland and Somaliland go with the flow Hutus will continue to hold Somalis hostage. They want to be clanist government while eating aid meant for Awdal to kismayo.

[Isseayaanle]

Reer PL are 110% behind president Deni. Until the constitution is finished, including Somaliland, Puntland will continue to exercise its autonomy.

You mentioned Somaliland 8 times in this thread, not sure why you are comparing (puntland) to Somaliland.


As for the rest of Somalia, the central gov already has an agreement with the 4 other states, puntland region is now irrelevant and not needed to agree as hsm has both internal and external partners support.

Puntland has no influence anymore, specially now that bosaso city has left the project. The fact that all this calaacal and crying against hsm gov started when he made og the pm also shows the fact majeertenia has zero pull anymore

Sxb unless you have something serious to post, don’t waste people’s time. Bosaso city has left the project kulaha lol

Somaliland is currently a state within Somalia just like Puntland. Both states are autonomous, have their own revenue and security. Either Somalia is one country or we are not, and we all go our separate ways. This whole treating Somaliland as special case cannot continue. It’s not good for Somalia, Puntland or Somaliland state.

agree “Either Somalia is one country or we are not, and we all go our separate ways. This whole treating Somaliland as special case cannot continue. It’s not good for Somalia, Puntland or Somaliland state.” But let’s be honest putland is always complaining about every government since beginning. You guys are no different than Hutus and scream when you don’t get what you want.

[Isseayaanle]

What is the Asxaan Deni wants from HSM? Wasn't he doing dirty campaign to maneuver a Daarod election final. Deni vs Farmaajo. And get HAG backing? There's no need to cry now.

Puntland and MJ are Cadow. They do awrkacsi for dhulos but have no intention to help their fellow harti brethrens. Waa uun afka.

The reason they are angry at HSM now is because they want PM. Oo Ogaden so walaalkiina maha who backed you all these years?

MJs are sneaky as hell nobody trust you guys. Xaasid ma aflaxo aan maqli jiray.

100% if hawiye gave them the pm they wouldn’t be complaining. They have no values and there only job is to mucaarad governments unless they have the pm seat. Great job on hawiye a for ignoring them.

[MrSinister]

What is the Asxaan Deni wants from HSM? Wasn't he doing dirty campaign to maneuver a Daarod election final. Deni vs Farmaajo. And get HAG backing? There's no need to cry now.

Puntland and MJ are Cadow. They do awrkacsi for dhulos but have no intention to help their fellow harti brethrens. Waa uun afka.

The reason they are angry at HSM now is because they want PM. Oo Ogaden so walaalkiina maha who backed you all these years?

MJs are sneaky as hell nobody trust you guys. Xaasid ma aflaxo aan maqli jiray.

Abgal have no dignity, the capital you claim is yours has thousands of African troops who have their way with your people everyday.

You don’t know the concept of government, and institutions. You’ve been killing other for decades before reer PL built the FGS that you worship now. If you really think this is about the PM position, then waxba ma ogtid. This is not about a useless PM position, if it was, Deni would not run for presidency. This is about bringing stability to the country and a final solution to Somalia problem.

[original dervish]

Can you elaborate on your claim that Hsm was planning to give ssc away to sl in a secret meeting with Iog and Bixi in Djibouti?

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

What is the Asxaan Deni wants from HSM? Wasn't he doing dirty campaign to maneuver a Daarod election final. Deni vs Farmaajo. And get HAG backing? There's no need to cry now.

Puntland and MJ are Cadow. They do awrkacsi for dhulos but have no intention to help their fellow harti brethrens. Waa uun afka.

The reason they are angry at HSM now is because they want PM. Oo Ogaden so walaalkiina maha who backed you all these years?

MJs are sneaky as hell nobody trust you guys. Xaasid ma aflaxo aan maqli jiray.

Abgal have no dignity, the capital you claim is yours has thousands of African troops who have their way with your people everyday.

You don’t know the concept of government, and institutions. You’ve been killing other for decades before reer PL built the FGS that you worship now. If you really think this is about the PM position, then waxba ma ogtid. This is not about a useless PM position, if it was, Deni would not run for presidency. This is about bringing stability to the country and a final solution to Somalia problem.

Even you don't believe what you are saying. Now explain to me what HSM has done worse than Farmaajo to Somalia to declare that PL cut the relations with SFG?

I remember during NN Deni held a speech saying he was scared for his life and even then xiriirka una gooynin dowladda. Marka what changed?

[mahoka]

Reer PL are 110% behind president Deni. Until the constitution is finished, including Somaliland, Puntland will continue to exercise its autonomy.

You mentioned Somaliland 8 times in this thread, not sure why you are comparing (puntland) to Somaliland.


As for the rest of Somalia, the central gov already has an agreement with the 4 other states, puntland region is now irrelevant and not needed to agree as hsm has both internal and external partners support.

Puntland has no influence anymore, specially now that bosaso city has left the project. The fact that all this calaacal and crying against hsm gov started when he made og the pm also shows the fact majeertenia has zero pull anymore

Sxb unless you have something serious to post, don’t waste people’s time. Bosaso city has left the project kulaha lol

Somaliland is currently a state within Somalia just like Puntland. Both states are autonomous, have their own revenue and security. Either Somalia is one country or we are not, and we all go our separate ways. This whole treating Somaliland as special case cannot continue. It’s not good for Somalia, Puntland or Somaliland state.

That’s nonsense that even you don’t believe, SL is north while puntland is a region of the south. You can’t be treated special because then galmudug, jubbaland etc will all need the same treatment.

Comparing puntland to Somaliland is funny since farmaajo gov nuked bosaso port development- puntland is under the firm say so of Mogadishu. This shows how dependent mj are on Mogadishu gov, you are just like galmudug next door except galmudug doesn’t suffer from grand delusions


As for bosaso, no need to try and spin this for us, we all know each other and tomorrow if you want to touch down in bosaso you got to get permission from diyano family, not garowe/qardho admin


All this crying is to get the pm position but that is over for mj, no more important positions in Mogadishu, those positions belong to Og and mx now.

[grandpakhalif]

It seems like Madoobe capitulated and turned into an HAG Stooge. History repeats itself with Rooble representing the beginning of the neo Caasho Caydiid era, we all know how it ended with Ali Mahdi

great to see Deni fighting back atleast, HAGism has infected federalism in Xamar and like a malignant tumour must be removed before it spreads its tentacles furthermore.

[MrSinister]

Can you elaborate on your claim that Hsm was planning to give ssc away to sl in a secret meeting with Iog and Bixi in Djibouti?

Hassan dameer is playing a very dangerous game. This is one the reasons PL has disassociated from his corrupt regime.

[MrSinister]

What is the Asxaan Deni wants from HSM? Wasn't he doing dirty campaign to maneuver a Daarod election final. Deni vs Farmaajo. And get HAG backing? There's no need to cry now.

Puntland and MJ are Cadow. They do awrkacsi for dhulos but have no intention to help their fellow harti brethrens. Waa uun afka.

The reason they are angry at HSM now is because they want PM. Oo Ogaden so walaalkiina maha who backed you all these years?

MJs are sneaky as hell nobody trust you guys. Xaasid ma aflaxo aan maqli jiray.

Abgal have no dignity, the capital you claim is yours has thousands of African troops who have their way with your people everyday.

You don’t know the concept of government, and institutions. You’ve been killing other for decades before reer PL built the FGS that you worship now. If you really think this is about the PM position, then waxba ma ogtid. This is not about a useless PM position, if it was, Deni would not run for presidency. This is about bringing stability to the country and a final solution to Somalia problem.

Even you don't believe what you are saying. Now explain to me what HSM has done worse than Farmaajo to Somalia to declare that PL cut the relations with SFG?

I remember during NN Deni held a speech saying he was scared for his life and even then xiriirka una gooynin dowladda. Marka what changed?

Let’s be honest bro. Somalia waa qabil power sharing, nothing else. PL had political differences with farmajo, but at the end wuxu aha nin Darod and that’s how the shacab saw him. Farmajo also wasn’t using government for some darod agenda. Majority of his supporter were very diverse.

Hassan sheikh wants a hawiye government, he wants to arm hawiye states under the guise of fighting al shabab. He believes the federal government is for hawiye only and does not have a functioning ministries. He wants to have back door meetings with Somaliland without Puntland. That shit will not fly.

You can’t claim to be a hawiye first government and then cry that others don’t want to have anything to do with you.

Wadanka waa la isla leeyahay ama waa la iska leeyahay

[AbkoowDhiblaawe]

Abgal have no dignity, the capital you claim is yours has thousands of African troops who have their way with your people everyday.

You don’t know the concept of government, and institutions. You’ve been killing other for decades before reer PL built the FGS that you worship now. If you really think this is about the PM position, then waxba ma ogtid. This is not about a useless PM position, if it was, Deni would not run for presidency. This is about bringing stability to the country and a final solution to Somalia problem.

Even you don't believe what you are saying. Now explain to me what HSM has done worse than Farmaajo to Somalia to declare that PL cut the relations with SFG?

I remember during NN Deni held a speech saying he was scared for his life and even then xiriirka una gooynin dowladda. Marka what changed?

Let’s be honest bro. Somalia waa qabil power sharing, nothing else. PL had political differences with farmajo, but at the end wuxu aha nin Darod and that’s how the shacab saw him. Farmajo also wasn’t using government for some darod agenda. Majority of his supporter were very diverse.

Hassan sheikh wants a hawiye government, he wants to arm hawiye states under the guise of fighting al shabab. He believes the federal government is for hawiye only and does not have a functioning ministries. He wants to have back door meetings with Somaliland without Puntland. That shit will not fly.

You can’t claim to be a hawiye first government and then cry that others don’t want to have anything to do with you.

Wadanka waa la isla leeyahay ama waa la iska leeyahay

Sxb with all due respect. This trick of yours is not working. First of all HSM aint " arming" hawiye. Gorgor, Danab and SNA are all part of it with the aid of macawisley who where armed already. Phase 1 is finished and now we are about to kick of Phase 2 General biixi just arrived in GM.

The forcee trained in Eritrea will be used in phase 3 in jubbaland and KG. You are cadow to umadda Somaliyeed who don't want reer southern Somalia to liberate itself from Shabab.

Secondly stop this awrkacsi of SSC. You don't give a fuck about them and u want to use those poor peoples struggle to negotiate for PM.

Original Dervish is not a fool and knows who his friend and enemies are

You talk about darodism when in fact you are the cadow of Daarods. You sideline everyone except the 3 mohamud Saleeban. You can't even support your fellow Kablalax PM who is actually a decent humanbeing amd god fearing.

I don't see eye to eye to MX but wallahi they are more pf an advocate of Darodism than MJs.